So you think that the individual states have done better in the past? The last time the individual states ran things before the national government got involved we had: the worst stock market crash of all time, states that would not recognize another state's currency, race and gender segregation the likes of which you have never seen, and a host of other screw the other guy mentalities. We weren't a country but rather a loose confederation of oligarchy's out to make the most buck they could. Anarchy-Capitalism at its finest.
Without the federal government's national social programs, do you honestly think that a black person in the deep dixie states would ever get any kind of help? If you do you are a hell of a lot more blind than you let on.
Besides, had you actually read the post, I never said that we needed massive social programs, I said we needed to actually fund the ones that are currently in play. How can anyone say a program doesn't work when it wasn't funded properly to begin with?
I have about had it with every tom, dick, and harry critisizing the government for their social programs. How many people on/. has gone to, will go to, or currently is in, college? Of those who answer yes, how many of you actually paid for it out of your own pockets, up front? Grants, most of which are funded by the government, stafford loans are backed by the government, the majority of the programs you were involved in at any school were funded mostly by the national, not the state, government.
You took my little comment to the furthest extreme that I didn't mean, so how about I do the same with yours? Do you honestly think your tax burden would be less if the states ran things? Would you really like to see air rates triple because each state now emposes their own air traffic tax that is different from everyone else's? Or how about when you just drive across the boarder to the next state, but oh, since you aren't a citizen of that state you have to pay a toll, it keeps their taxes down you know. Or how about frieght costs quadrupeling because each state has their own driver's licence requirements and now a cdl is something you have to have a certification for in each state you plan on driving through? There is no more FAA because we have cut federal taxes for it, so now the airlines can do whatever the hell they want. Or even worse there are now mini-faa's in each state that do things just slightly differently and to be allowed flight through their airspace the airline has to conform or fly around, taking rates up even further.
Dog social programs and taxes all you want, I'll take those any day over all that crap.
Does public welfare at the national level work? No. Does retirement funding at the national level work? No. Nothing seems to work at the national level -- all national laws sound great when you read their titles, but the descriptions show the fallacy of a large central government.
What planet are you on? Public welfore only fails because those people who are on it stay on it. It was meant as a temporary help, not a permanent solution. Now because of those people staying on it the program is massively underfunded. Retirement funding doesn't work because there are fewer people employed today on average than when it was instituted, plus the cost of living has skyrocketed since then and the dollar hasn't even begun to catch up. Do not blame the government when a program doesn't work exactly like it was planned, or when it doesn't work to your liking. In most cases the reason for government programs failing can be attributed to one thing, lack of funding. When was the last time you or anyone you know voted yes on a tax raise to support the poor, the elderly, or our schools?
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So you think that the individual states have done better in the past? The last time the individual states ran things before the national government got involved we had: the worst stock market crash of all time, states that would not recognize another state's currency, race and gender segregation the likes of which you have never seen, and a host of other screw the other guy mentalities. We weren't a country but rather a loose confederation of oligarchy's out to make the most buck they could. Anarchy-Capitalism at its finest.
/. has gone to, will go to, or currently is in, college? Of those who answer yes, how many of you actually paid for it out of your own pockets, up front? Grants, most of which are funded by the government, stafford loans are backed by the government, the majority of the programs you were involved in at any school were funded mostly by the national, not the state, government.
Without the federal government's national social programs, do you honestly think that a black person in the deep dixie states would ever get any kind of help? If you do you are a hell of a lot more blind than you let on.
Besides, had you actually read the post, I never said that we needed massive social programs, I said we needed to actually fund the ones that are currently in play. How can anyone say a program doesn't work when it wasn't funded properly to begin with?
I have about had it with every tom, dick, and harry critisizing the government for their social programs. How many people on
You took my little comment to the furthest extreme that I didn't mean, so how about I do the same with yours?
Do you honestly think your tax burden would be less if the states ran things? Would you really like to see air rates triple because each state now emposes their own air traffic tax that is different from everyone else's? Or how about when you just drive across the boarder to the next state, but oh, since you aren't a citizen of that state you have to pay a toll, it keeps their taxes down you know. Or how about frieght costs quadrupeling because each state has their own driver's licence requirements and now a cdl is something you have to have a certification for in each state you plan on driving through? There is no more FAA because we have cut federal taxes for it, so now the airlines can do whatever the hell they want. Or even worse there are now mini-faa's in each state that do things just slightly differently and to be allowed flight through their airspace the airline has to conform or fly around, taking rates up even further.
Dog social programs and taxes all you want, I'll take those any day over all that crap.
Does public welfare at the national level work? No. Does retirement funding at the national level work? No. Nothing seems to work at the national level -- all national laws sound great when you read their titles, but the descriptions show the fallacy of a large central government.
What planet are you on? Public welfore only fails because those people who are on it stay on it. It was meant as a temporary help, not a permanent solution. Now because of those people staying on it the program is massively underfunded. Retirement funding doesn't work because there are fewer people employed today on average than when it was instituted, plus the cost of living has skyrocketed since then and the dollar hasn't even begun to catch up. Do not blame the government when a program doesn't work exactly like it was planned, or when it doesn't work to your liking. In most cases the reason for government programs failing can be attributed to one thing, lack of funding. When was the last time you or anyone you know voted yes on a tax raise to support the poor, the elderly, or our schools?