"dude we are talking about an Acer here, you ever seen how little polishing their heatsinks get?"
Depends on the model. The old EEEpc had a pretty nice lapped surface on the thermal module. The Aspire series, yea fuck that, they should've just soldered the damned thing to the package.
"I posted hard data showing that not only is it not slower the 4225 GPU it has is significantly better than what comes with any Atom netbook."
I am not so sure about that - I had the 4250HD in my dual-core DV7 laptop, that hunk of junk could barely run UT2K4 or Killing Floor. I've seen some Atoms that have an on-die GPU that can do better. My years-older and crippled GeForce 6800NX outperforms the HD42** series.
" I would suggest Arctic Silver, first pre-treat both the CPU and the heatsink to get the paste into the tiny imperfections"
That isn't going to do you any good considering the ball size of the thermal compound components are larger than most imperfections on the surface of the heat sink and processor packaging (40 or so nm compared to the 15 or so nm of a heat sink.) This is why we're looking into carbon nanotube transfer pads, to fit into those very small imperfections and make for much better heat transfer and fewer air pockets to act as insulation.
"I also frankly don't put much stock in an "errata" that is only being seen by some guy running an EXTREMELY niche OS and then ONLY when he compiles with a certain version of GCC"
As I stated above, sounds like the n00b programmer just learned how to work with a crippled/biased year+ old compiler.
"Intel periodically cuts patent cross-licensing deals with AMD that have the side-effect of bailing AMD out financially."
Good thing AMD won the entire console war this upcoming generation, because that means AMD isn't going to have much of a financial problem this next half a decade, at least.
"Intel manages AMD, as best it can, such that AMD gets 20% market share, and no x86 profits to speak of."
You might want to rethink that, considering the majority of Intel chips using x86-64 are using AMD 64-bit instructions and registers. AMD also has a much larger market share than that 20% you state overall right now when you include consoles, which are just restricted over-glorified computers.
"AMD is left appealing to those who want cheap CPUs."
Actually, they appeal to me because in an architecture-neutral compiled program AMD beats the shit out of Intel in multi-threaded workloads that don't require special instructions, at cheaper cost.
I deleted it and forgot to remove the 'and' after it.
And yet you, with your supposedly superior language skills, could not see that?
Try a little harder when you're directing some research, like myself. Errors of omission or deletion are easy enough to detect if you've got the brains to do such.
Umm, plenty of quotes saying "We will support older PS3 models with OtherOS and will not be removing the feature." as provided by other slashdot commenters, with links.
" It has built-in graphics that, while useful, is probably nothing compared to what will be included with the PS3."
Guess you never bothered to read the rest of my post nor check the full specs. That's not a problem, it just shows your and denial.
Despite having half of the cores, my current desktop under Windows will still run any of those AAA games at full graphics. How do I know? My old as shit Phenom x4 with 4GB DDR2 and a GTX460 still runs everything at 1080p without any issue.
You're still thinking gaming companies know how to do anything with multiple threads. Got some news for you...
It was a Lie. OtherOS was ADVERTISED not only in video but on the box itself. That was why I bought the PS3 (first-gen with full BC) was because it ADVERTISED ON THE BOX "OtherOS"
"OtherOS was a feature available in early versions of the PlayStation 3 video game console that allowed other operating systems, such as Linux or FreeBSD"
FreeBSD had a Cell port? Please point me out to this, as that was my first choice of OtherOS to install and I couldn't find it even after a year.
If I decided to drop the extra $150 on a better GPU than the 7660D included in the A10, then you could get a GTX560 and be set to go. Or snag dual GTX460s for the same price.
Great, so now you have a wifi transmitter and computer inside of an already-heated LED light. Which means as the whole enclosure gets warmer from the added electronics, LED efficiency drops, as well as the overall lifespan. To boot, these LED bulbs aren't even as efficient as cheap Chinese LEDs that can run from a single network-connected smart dimmer TO BEGIN WITH, so their efficiency becomes roughly that of CFL, totally negating any power savings benefit unless you run the LED bulb at less-than-optimal power.
This is about as pointless as the 'fluid source' LED on kickstarter, which has a pathetic 50 or so lumens per watt - not even as good as a CFL.
To all you LED people on Kickstarter - hire some real engineers that know what's going on; your guys don't have a clue and you're making our industry look bad.
Well known fact about slashdot proven in a study (which enables me to disable all advertising on the site) poster intelligence drops rapidly once you hit seven digit uids.
And that's apparently true up into the mid million and then some given your failure of a post above. You seriously seem to know nothing about the limitations of DSL. Like I said - take your ignorant self a few thousand feet from the CO and see if you get your advertised speed. Protip: you won't - not even close.
" The problem is that when the computer becomes outdated, you have to dump a perfectly good screen."
Umm, we have these things called standards. I took a screen from a DV-6000 and threw it into a much older Toshiba Satellite. I'm using that screen right now to read your hilariously wrong words. The best part? I could take this Toshiba apart, and toss it inside my 32" Samsung A550 TV, and using the laptop connector cable plug it right in and it will work. I've done it before with my defunct DV-7 laptop.
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I can see flicker of LEDs well over 100Hz. I work with them and build LED devices all day long.
"dude we are talking about an Acer here, you ever seen how little polishing their heatsinks get?"
Depends on the model. The old EEEpc had a pretty nice lapped surface on the thermal module. The Aspire series, yea fuck that, they should've just soldered the damned thing to the package.
"I posted hard data showing that not only is it not slower the 4225 GPU it has is significantly better than what comes with any Atom netbook."
I am not so sure about that - I had the 4250HD in my dual-core DV7 laptop, that hunk of junk could barely run UT2K4 or Killing Floor. I've seen some Atoms that have an on-die GPU that can do better. My years-older and crippled GeForce 6800NX outperforms the HD42** series.
" I would suggest Arctic Silver, first pre-treat both the CPU and the heatsink to get the paste into the tiny imperfections"
That isn't going to do you any good considering the ball size of the thermal compound components are larger than most imperfections on the surface of the heat sink and processor packaging (40 or so nm compared to the 15 or so nm of a heat sink.) This is why we're looking into carbon nanotube transfer pads, to fit into those very small imperfections and make for much better heat transfer and fewer air pockets to act as insulation.
"I also frankly don't put much stock in an "errata" that is only being seen by some guy running an EXTREMELY niche OS and then ONLY when he compiles with a certain version of GCC"
As I stated above, sounds like the n00b programmer just learned how to work with a crippled/biased year+ old compiler.
* The bug still occurs if I place the MFENCE+NOP at the beginning
of the function.
* Placing the MFENCE+NOP at the end of the function causes the
bug to stop occuring.
The bug disappears completely in that case with testing over
2 days.
* Placing just a NOP at the end of the function causes the
bug to stop occuring. As of this writing this is still undergoing
longer tests.
Sounds like someone just learned how to program and actually use a year-plus old half-crippled compiler to me.
"Intel periodically cuts patent cross-licensing deals with AMD that have the side-effect of bailing AMD out financially."
Good thing AMD won the entire console war this upcoming generation, because that means AMD isn't going to have much of a financial problem this next half a decade, at least.
"Intel manages AMD, as best it can, such that AMD gets 20% market share, and no x86 profits to speak of."
You might want to rethink that, considering the majority of Intel chips using x86-64 are using AMD 64-bit instructions and registers. AMD also has a much larger market share than that 20% you state overall right now when you include consoles, which are just restricted over-glorified computers.
"AMD is left appealing to those who want cheap CPUs."
Actually, they appeal to me because in an architecture-neutral compiled program AMD beats the shit out of Intel in multi-threaded workloads that don't require special instructions, at cheaper cost.
Between 'your' and 'and' was the word ignorance.
I deleted it and forgot to remove the 'and' after it.
And yet you, with your supposedly superior language skills, could not see that?
Try a little harder when you're directing some research, like myself. Errors of omission or deletion are easy enough to detect if you've got the brains to do such.
"Do something fucking useful."
I did, Re: Electronic Arts and Spore.
And I whipped their ass. They're now bankrupt.
What've you done?
Nothing that I can see.
"They sold a product with feature X, then they said if you want to keep feature X we will not longer support you."
Yet someone above you in the conversation posted a link that proves you wrong.
Umm, plenty of quotes saying "We will support older PS3 models with OtherOS and will not be removing the feature." as provided by other slashdot commenters, with links.
Sony shill detected.
" It has built-in graphics that, while useful, is probably nothing compared to what will be included with the PS3."
Guess you never bothered to read the rest of my post nor check the full specs. That's not a problem, it just shows your and denial.
Despite having half of the cores, my current desktop under Windows will still run any of those AAA games at full graphics. How do I know? My old as shit Phenom x4 with 4GB DDR2 and a GTX460 still runs everything at 1080p without any issue.
You're still thinking gaming companies know how to do anything with multiple threads. Got some news for you...
"So you can't afford a better GPU on your build and that GPU can't even run current AAA titles at 1080p"
Umm.... my 5770 runs most everything at 1080p, no AA (not that it's needed at that resolution on my monitor when I'm sitting 6 feet away.)
As for the OS - who pays for an OS, even Windows?
"You have to wait for PC tech to make the console obsolete."
Guess you didn't pay attention to the hardware in the consoles versus what is already available today.
It was already obsolete before either system was ever announced.
"Offering otherOS didn't sell very many extra consoles "
Better go talk to the Air Force and DoD on that one, pal.
It was a Lie. OtherOS was ADVERTISED not only in video but on the box itself. That was why I bought the PS3 (first-gen with full BC) was because it ADVERTISED ON THE BOX "OtherOS"
That is false advertising AND a bait and switch.
And what happened AFTER OtherOS got taken away?
Hypervisor got DESTROYED by hackers, allowing full access to the system.
Or did you forget the RNG always returning a result of 4?
"OtherOS was a feature available in early versions of the PlayStation 3 video game console that allowed other operating systems, such as Linux or FreeBSD"
FreeBSD had a Cell port? Please point me out to this, as that was my first choice of OtherOS to install and I couldn't find it even after a year.
"Which $400 gaming PC that can play games with comparable graphics to forthcoming PS4 games would you recommend?"
One built yourself.
A10-5800K with 8GB RAM costs me.... $247.90 free shipping and before taxes.
Barebones System
8GB RAM
If I decided to drop the extra $150 on a better GPU than the 7660D included in the A10, then you could get a GTX560 and be set to go. Or snag dual GTX460s for the same price.
Great, so now you have a wifi transmitter and computer inside of an already-heated LED light. Which means as the whole enclosure gets warmer from the added electronics, LED efficiency drops, as well as the overall lifespan. To boot, these LED bulbs aren't even as efficient as cheap Chinese LEDs that can run from a single network-connected smart dimmer TO BEGIN WITH, so their efficiency becomes roughly that of CFL, totally negating any power savings benefit unless you run the LED bulb at less-than-optimal power.
This is about as pointless as the 'fluid source' LED on kickstarter, which has a pathetic 50 or so lumens per watt - not even as good as a CFL.
To all you LED people on Kickstarter - hire some real engineers that know what's going on; your guys don't have a clue and you're making our industry look bad.
Well known fact about slashdot proven in a study (which enables me to disable all advertising on the site) poster intelligence drops rapidly once you hit seven digit uids.
And that's apparently true up into the mid million and then some given your failure of a post above. You seriously seem to know nothing about the limitations of DSL. Like I said - take your ignorant self a few thousand feet from the CO and see if you get your advertised speed. Protip: you won't - not even close.
Uh you do know that networking speeds are still measured in bits, yea?
Oh, seven digit UID. Never mind.
Scroll down to Hondo MCM (The Itanium II MX2.)
See that 260W TDP?
"That 220w figure is not correct, that is why it is so hard to believe. There has never been a cpu with a TDP that high,"
Um, I think the Itanium II MX2 actually got higher than that, with a TDP of 260.
"512 kbit/s is the minimum of what you get with DSL."
Wroooooong.
Call me back when you live more than a few thousand feet from the phone company office.
Still got friends buying '3 mbit' packages and only getting 256 kbit download.
We're not responsible for this shit - YOU ARE because you're too cowardly to stand up to us.
And that is how we're going to rule this fucking world and enslave you all - NSA, CIA, an army of politicians, and your own complacency.
Only Russia and China really stand any chance of remaining sovereign.
The rest of you guys? Bwahahahahaha. Pathetic.
Nope, good with a Dremel, heat gun, and wire ties!
" The problem is that when the computer becomes outdated, you have to dump a perfectly good screen."
Umm, we have these things called standards. I took a screen from a DV-6000 and threw it into a much older Toshiba Satellite. I'm using that screen right now to read your hilariously wrong words. The best part? I could take this Toshiba apart, and toss it inside my 32" Samsung A550 TV, and using the laptop connector cable plug it right in and it will work. I've done it before with my defunct DV-7 laptop.