"My languages had a genitive before your language's grandparents were born (Classical Greek and Latin). I certainly understand the use of the apostrophe for any form of possessive, but to use that in a plural is completely wrong!"
Troll mod away, guys! I want proof of this. If the guy can't back up his claim he really shouldn't be speaking about it. he can rationalize it all he wants but until he provides exact details, what is said is pure hyperbole and conjecture.
Have fun cracking my password. Going to have to figure out which three languages it's in first, then which words I'm using, and even version of the word in the case of one of the languages!
And then there's another 16 non-alphanumeric characters. Completely RFC3629 compliant, so it doesn't get rejected.
Plenty after I use my Dremel to put a few larger-than-pencil size holes in the casing to expose the platters.
I used to do data destruction. You're not recovering anythinG after I'm done with it, and most everything will SEEM to be intact.
I still have a few drives that I use for demos. Sure you can drop a new controller on there but those platters are GONE and nothing is recoverable, readable, or even writable, even after low-level resetting and calibration. It's dead, Jim.
"I don't know of any pro cameras that store data as a JPG"
Shop around, Sony, Panasonic, most prosumer DSLRs I've touched store images as JPG and video as.MOV. Sometimes you find RAW+JPG but not often.
You don't hit RAW-only typically until you get to the ones with hard drives or CD-burning capability.
I get plenty of chances to check this stuff out when I'm selling lighting panels to video studios. I hear about it all the time from chromakey video specialists in Canada to producers right here in Hollywood.
"You can't compare a pro camera of any type to a cheap consumer grade camera of any type. That's just insanity."
I can compare my consumer Minolta X-700 against most ANY current pro-model DSLR and come out even. And it cost a hell of a lot less, as well, even when it was first made back before I was born.
If one knows how to use your equipment, one won't need professional stuff. I've even made my own lenses to replace old broken stuff like postage stamp magnifiers and jeweler's loupes, then use those right up against my P&S to get some killer macro shots rivaling a $1,000 macro lens.
"Do you realize how many nasty chemicals are used in film processing, in much, much greater volumes than in a DSLR?"
Guess how much more gets used in the production of the DSLR? Most of the chemicals for processing can be obtained with very (comparatively) little energy and pollution at the expense of pollution potential later on if not properly disposed of. On the other hand, the pollution from all the batteries/plastic housing/packaging/manuals/adapters/wrapping/recycling/possible other heavy metals, plus marketing energy wastes, etc, more than likely FAR outweigh the chemicals, both immediate and long-term.
'You also don't get them from digital pictures, what kind of dumbass makes this claim while posting from a computer?"
Never owned a digital picture frame that came pre-loaded with a trojan, have ya? I have! It sucks.
"And exactly how many EMPs do you experience in your lifetime?"
Plenty, I overload magnetotrons quite often and do have a prototype gauss gun in construction.
"EMPs only kill things that are powered up"
And batteries if they're still inside the device when the EMP hits. Rechargable ones might be able to take another charge but regular alkaline cells won't, they'll be depleted and their chemistry permanently altered.
"5. As for your manual-everything lenses, there isn't any technical difference between the glass used for a film or a digital camera. In fact I can use several of my lenses I purchased with my film camera on my DLSR with no problems at all, and the rest all work fine using an adapter. Any lens which has an "auto" and/or "vibration reduction" feature will work just fine in full manual mode. So this argument is completely moot."
Pal I can find you about five different digital cameras with plastic lenses. Step into Wal-Mart and buy a Vivitar. Last one I bought was plastic lens and took the shittiest pictures ever. Moot argument, my ass.
Also, no camera out there accepts my camera mounts. There's adapters, but I don't want that, as that fucks my ability to use my fixed telezoom which probably cost more than any non-pro DSLR available.
"Actually, you can get viral infections from film, although I don't know of anyone personally who had that problem."
I'm talking about computer viruses here.
"Picture frames: I'm not sure why you mention this at all, since photographers don't use digital picture frames for shooting or processing photos. Also, nothing prevents you from printing out a high quality copy for use in a standard picture frame, which is still the preferred method of display."
Plenty of people buy nice cameras then get little crappy digital picture frames for picture display since all they have to do is plug in the SD card and hit play. Come on, think of the entire field instead of the professional market. The problems I address are in both sections of the market.
"You can also get sick from the chemicals used to process the film."
Well, I mentioned a negative scanner. They do have some films that don't require much in the way of chemicals for work. And of course it's toxic if you're exposed to too much of it, same with dihydrogen monoxide, FFS.
"I'm not sure if an EMP would expose your film,"
Depends on the kind of photography you're doing but yes it can expose your film if it's powerful enough or of the proper wavelength to penetrate the shielding.
There's too much in the argument, but really, when it comes down to it, I'll stick with film until they've got atmospheric-adaptive optics on cameras and at least 100MP resolution. Till then, the P&S I have works for making little animated GIFs and PNGs and for my websites and not much else, everything else gets film.
"The photographer on the other hand probably won't survive the nuclear blast that produced it."
You are aware much more than nukes can generate EMPs, yes? You could make a spark-gap generator that would possibly do the same thing, or you could overload the magnetotron from a microwave.
Or you could just build a pulse-coil EMP bomb using timed sequential explosions inside and outside of a coiled charged conductor.
Plenty of ways to EMP something and not hurt a human.
Yea, they hate me when they go "We need you to include your hard drive so they can install the driver for your laptop monitor" and I go "Windows has had a native plug and play driver built-in that worked since Windows 98, you don't need my hard rive, just replace my damned cracked LCD."
See, I actually OWNED one of those picture frames, well before I learned about the virus it came with. My knowledge is first-hand, not tabloid stuff that happens to corroborate exactly what I'm saying.
Oh yes, but given how shallow most Americans seem to be, I'd be willing to bet that they're all facebook friends from old schools or myspace from family, and not foreigners. Especially those so hopelessly addicted to it they can't be bothered to try meeting other people in a live setting.
'Texting and IM-ing my friends gives me a constant feeling of comfort,' wrote one of the students, who blogged about their reactions. 'When I did not have those two luxuries, I felt quite alone and secluded from my life.'"
GO TO A BAR, BITCH! Then you can actually BE with your friends and having a better time than being separated by a couple of fucking electronic devices!
Seriously, people should be required to obtain a license to operate anything more complex than a calculator.
This poster is correct, here in the IE in SoCal there's plenty of open spaces and places for kids to go and play. Hell I saw a bunch out hunting for meteorites out in the hills not a couple of days ago.
More like the Dark Ages rather than 150 years ago. We had so many things that were 'invented' well before then, like damned good concrete made from volcanic ash, steam turbines (though they had no clue what to do with it when it was invented around 100AD.)
We could have had the Industrial Revolution in maybe 600 or 700AD if it were not for the Dark Ages.
Then we'd have probably been in other solar systems by now. No need for the terrestrial outdoors when there's space to conquer!
Ten seconds in a microwave destroys every piece of information on the platter with barely a harmful effect to the environment and at a minimal amount of power required!
Every office in America, if not the world, has a microwave.
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"My languages had a genitive before your language's grandparents were born (Classical Greek and Latin). I certainly understand the use of the apostrophe for any form of possessive, but to use that in a plural is completely wrong!"
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Apostrophe
Try again and next time stay awake in your foreign language classes.
4-year Latin student.
"No, he refused to disclose the password to his supervisors when they asked him for them.
Glad they found him guilty."
Glad they found him guilty of doing his job and adhering to his contract which you've apparently not read?
Holy fuck get the hell away from me, you're as bad as the idiots on the jury.
Troll mod away, guys! I want proof of this. If the guy can't back up his claim he really shouldn't be speaking about it. he can rationalize it all he wants but until he provides exact details, what is said is pure hyperbole and conjecture.
Have fun cracking my password. Going to have to figure out which three languages it's in first, then which words I'm using, and even version of the word in the case of one of the languages!
And then there's another 16 non-alphanumeric characters. Completely RFC3629 compliant, so it doesn't get rejected.
The trick is to allow the radiation to penetrate, unlike the kids in the video. Gotta have at least pencil-sized holes to get past the shielding.
And for fun stick some aluminum foil in the holes and across the traces.
Plenty after I use my Dremel to put a few larger-than-pencil size holes in the casing to expose the platters.
I used to do data destruction. You're not recovering anythinG after I'm done with it, and most everything will SEEM to be intact.
I still have a few drives that I use for demos. Sure you can drop a new controller on there but those platters are GONE and nothing is recoverable, readable, or even writable, even after low-level resetting and calibration. It's dead, Jim.
That's for after microwaving. n50 neodymium super-magnet from united nuclear is the second-pass destructive wipe.
"I don't know of any pro cameras that store data as a JPG"
Shop around, Sony, Panasonic, most prosumer DSLRs I've touched store images as JPG and video as .MOV. Sometimes you find RAW+JPG but not often.
You don't hit RAW-only typically until you get to the ones with hard drives or CD-burning capability.
I get plenty of chances to check this stuff out when I'm selling lighting panels to video studios. I hear about it all the time from chromakey video specialists in Canada to producers right here in Hollywood.
"You can't compare a pro camera of any type to a cheap consumer grade camera of any type. That's just insanity."
I can compare my consumer Minolta X-700 against most ANY current pro-model DSLR and come out even. And it cost a hell of a lot less, as well, even when it was first made back before I was born.
If one knows how to use your equipment, one won't need professional stuff. I've even made my own lenses to replace old broken stuff like postage stamp magnifiers and jeweler's loupes, then use those right up against my P&S to get some killer macro shots rivaling a $1,000 macro lens.
"Do you realize how many nasty chemicals are used in film processing, in much, much greater volumes than in a DSLR?"
Guess how much more gets used in the production of the DSLR? Most of the chemicals for processing can be obtained with very (comparatively) little energy and pollution at the expense of pollution potential later on if not properly disposed of. On the other hand, the pollution from all the batteries/plastic housing/packaging/manuals/adapters/wrapping/recycling/possible other heavy metals, plus marketing energy wastes, etc, more than likely FAR outweigh the chemicals, both immediate and long-term.
'You also don't get them from digital pictures, what kind of dumbass makes this claim while posting from a computer?"
Never owned a digital picture frame that came pre-loaded with a trojan, have ya? I have! It sucks.
"And exactly how many EMPs do you experience in your lifetime?"
Plenty, I overload magnetotrons quite often and do have a prototype gauss gun in construction.
"EMPs only kill things that are powered up"
And batteries if they're still inside the device when the EMP hits. Rechargable ones might be able to take another charge but regular alkaline cells won't, they'll be depleted and their chemistry permanently altered.
"5. As for your manual-everything lenses, there isn't any technical difference between the glass used for a film or a digital camera. In fact I can use several of my lenses I purchased with my film camera on my DLSR with no problems at all, and the rest all work fine using an adapter. Any lens which has an "auto" and/or "vibration reduction" feature will work just fine in full manual mode. So this argument is completely moot."
Pal I can find you about five different digital cameras with plastic lenses. Step into Wal-Mart and buy a Vivitar. Last one I bought was plastic lens and took the shittiest pictures ever. Moot argument, my ass.
Also, no camera out there accepts my camera mounts. There's adapters, but I don't want that, as that fucks my ability to use my fixed telezoom which probably cost more than any non-pro DSLR available.
"Actually, you can get viral infections from film, although I don't know of anyone personally who had that problem."
I'm talking about computer viruses here.
"Picture frames: I'm not sure why you mention this at all, since photographers don't use digital picture frames for shooting or processing photos. Also, nothing prevents you from printing out a high quality copy for use in a standard picture frame, which is still the preferred method of display."
Plenty of people buy nice cameras then get little crappy digital picture frames for picture display since all they have to do is plug in the SD card and hit play. Come on, think of the entire field instead of the professional market. The problems I address are in both sections of the market.
"You can also get sick from the chemicals used to process the film."
Well, I mentioned a negative scanner. They do have some films that don't require much in the way of chemicals for work. And of course it's toxic if you're exposed to too much of it, same with dihydrogen monoxide, FFS.
"I'm not sure if an EMP would expose your film,"
Depends on the kind of photography you're doing but yes it can expose your film if it's powerful enough or of the proper wavelength to penetrate the shielding.
There's too much in the argument, but really, when it comes down to it, I'll stick with film until they've got atmospheric-adaptive optics on cameras and at least 100MP resolution. Till then, the P&S I have works for making little animated GIFs and PNGs and for my websites and not much else, everything else gets film.
High-resolution negative scanner, anybody? Can get one for like 500 bucks.
How many of you people actually pursue photography as a hobby and not know of this equipment or the prices at which they could be had?
"The photographer on the other hand probably won't survive the nuclear blast that produced it."
You are aware much more than nukes can generate EMPs, yes? You could make a spark-gap generator that would possibly do the same thing, or you could overload the magnetotron from a microwave.
Or you could just build a pulse-coil EMP bomb using timed sequential explosions inside and outside of a coiled charged conductor.
Plenty of ways to EMP something and not hurt a human.
Yea, they hate me when they go "We need you to include your hard drive so they can install the driver for your laptop monitor" and I go "Windows has had a native plug and play driver built-in that worked since Windows 98, you don't need my hard rive, just replace my damned cracked LCD."
See, I actually OWNED one of those picture frames, well before I learned about the virus it came with. My knowledge is first-hand, not tabloid stuff that happens to corroborate exactly what I'm saying.
Oh yes, but given how shallow most Americans seem to be, I'd be willing to bet that they're all facebook friends from old schools or myspace from family, and not foreigners. Especially those so hopelessly addicted to it they can't be bothered to try meeting other people in a live setting.
'Texting and IM-ing my friends gives me a constant feeling of comfort,' wrote one of the students, who blogged about their reactions. 'When I did not have those two luxuries, I felt quite alone and secluded from my life.'"
GO TO A BAR, BITCH! Then you can actually BE with your friends and having a better time than being separated by a couple of fucking electronic devices!
Seriously, people should be required to obtain a license to operate anything more complex than a calculator.
This poster is correct, here in the IE in SoCal there's plenty of open spaces and places for kids to go and play. Hell I saw a bunch out hunting for meteorites out in the hills not a couple of days ago.
More like the Dark Ages rather than 150 years ago. We had so many things that were 'invented' well before then, like damned good concrete made from volcanic ash, steam turbines (though they had no clue what to do with it when it was invented around 100AD.)
We could have had the Industrial Revolution in maybe 600 or 700AD if it were not for the Dark Ages.
Then we'd have probably been in other solar systems by now. No need for the terrestrial outdoors when there's space to conquer!
And I can see who never took Latin in high school.
Bet you still pronounce that "V" as a "V" and not a "W" like a typical moron, too.
"How do you know that it didn't go through some sort of QA?"
If it had I wouldn't be repairing 500+ computers that had McAfee installed on them.
There was NO QA in place, as even I would've caught this on a test install and scan.
"No it's a weakness of Wordpress, AND weak passwords.. "
Proof and full code documentation required for your claim, please. Exact sections with comments.
That's what I thought.
Ten seconds in a microwave destroys every piece of information on the platter with barely a harmful effect to the environment and at a minimal amount of power required!
Every office in America, if not the world, has a microwave.
It's what I do when I toss out ANY hard disk.
Jeeze, I thought people on slashdot were smart?
http://articles.sfgate.com/2008-02-15/business/17139861_1_trojan-horse-computer-associates-security-vendor
There. Digital picture frames pre-loaded with viruses. Was it really that hard to understand?
"In the "which is easiest to prevent data loss" wars, digital wins hands down."
Not when your camera is storing those shots as JPG. You've just introduced loss before you've even made your first copy.
Cat is diabetic, insulin stored there.
No it doesn't. Now I've got your drive and can spend my leisure hacking away until that information is mine.
Physical destruction or nothing, folks.
This is probably the best car analogy I've seen on slashdot.
And yes, only 2 or 3 lenses is a PITA. I have more than that: http://i50.photobucket.com/albums/f349/khyberkitsune/camera.jpg