"I was comparing the implementation of the Mechanical throttle vs Electronic Throttle Control."
Might as well be the difference between copper and steel, because inherently those are the metals used respectively in each mentioned throttle type, and is truly the major difference - analog versus digital, in a sense. One uses physical force, the other uses electrical impulses. Why not build both along the same cable? Manual control fails, send a signal down the cable anyways to force electric backups to work.
Stil too many points of failure in an electronic system. Also, more cost to repair electrical systems that fail. Wiring harnesses alone for most vehicles top three thousand dollars (the replacement for my 98 Taurus was 2200)
I was taught differently. If you're driving a manual and your throttle gets stuck, you depress the clutch and kill the vehicle. Don't bother with shifting gears or braking, stop the problem first by killing the transmission, then vehicle, then apply the brakes.
Manual transmissions should be mandatory for everyone that is not disabled.
ICEs require mechanical parts to operate. You just can't get around that. You're adding yet ANOTHER layer of complexity by introducing excessive electronics. A fully mechanical system may have a high chance of an unsafe failure but there's less of a chance of ANY failure because there are less things to fail. There's also a higher chance of cheap, safe, and effective self-repair with a mechanical system as opposed to one supported by electronics.
Also, that electronic system isn't going to do a goddamned thing for safety if the brakes totally fail, anyways. You're going to either have to force the transmission into park or you're going to have to jump from the vehicle, or crash. Just like Toyota experienced recently with one of their hybrids. Power failed, no way to stop, or effectively steer.
"To propose that somehow mechanical cables are safer because they are simpler is severely flawed. "
Ahh, someone that has no clue about the physical properties of the metals about which they speak!
Steel vs Copper
Tensile strength - Steel wins Conductivity - copper wins but steel can work just as well as copper for the simple task of transmitting electrical signals. corrosion resistance - You can make stainless steel. Copper still corrodes. Steel is harder than copper on the Moh's hardness scale.
Steel is pretty much superior for all but the fact that it has less electrical conductivity than copper.
And I've built junior dragster cars, so I *DO* have some degree of divine insight into how a car works. Electronic systems fail much more often than mechanical systems, from both owned purchased vehicle experience and built vehicle experience.
"*Everything* about it is hearsay until either someone succeeds in getting an FOI request honoured or the thing gets ratified and it's too late to do anything about it."
Or you could just talk to someone from France, as they have the ACTA open for anybody to view. quit thinking of US-based solutions and you'll almost always find an answer to your problems.
Yes, IT IS AS BAD AS IT SOUNDS AND LOOKS. I've read it (though my French is very craptacular,) and honestly this pretty much reeks of global domination rolling through.
Try maintaining global connections - they're very handy for things just like this.
If you read all of that you'd have found from the program that several of the offshoots from the program are computerize, and are in service, though not computerized to the extent that the OICW was. Mainly biometric locks on weapons, etc, but the OICW is the progenitor of that.
And a computer would make a damn fine replacement for a rifle if said computer was attached to a megawatt laser.
"The car was capable of it, and you are not stealing anything by modifying it."
The modem is capable of it, and you're not stealing anything by modifying it, because the telcos and cable companies owe us about $200 billion dollars in services, namely 45 mbit symmetrical fiber to every home, and they're very, VERY late on delivering, past due.
Even if you don't go to the scene of a crime, failure to report your knowledge of it happening is conspiracy to witness.
That's what I was busted for in Mississippi. Even though I could not witness the crime happening and I was not directly on the property, I still got a conspiracy to witness charge.
Did you forget we (the taxpayers) let the government hand the telcos 200 billion (at least) of our tax dollars to upgrade our network infrastructure? They still haven't delivered on their promise and they're late on it as well - as far as I'm concerned they OWE us free internet until such time that they deliver their promised 45mbit symmetrical lines to our houses.
they claim APPLE HARDWARE - so if I remove Apple's hard drive, and apple's memory, and use 3rd party memory and run/install OSX on my macbook, it's very quickly NOT APPLE HARDWARE.
Sorry, the argument falls flat on the basis that we have some warranty and compatibility/interoperability laws. What apple is trying to do goes expressly againt them.
"For Apple to provide support to those running OSX on non-Apple hardware, it would require a significant amount of money to be spent."
Most people/companies that are capable of installing OSX on non-Apple hardware probably don't need apple's craptacular support in the first place.
And that's what scares Apple, because they design their crap to break so you have to pay for support, it cuts out their revenue when the smart people step in.
pirate (prt) n. 1. a. One who robs at sea or plunders the land from the sea without commission from a sovereign nation. b. A ship used for this purpose. 2. One who preys on others; a plunderer. 3. One who makes use of or reproduces the work of another without authorization. 4. One that operates an unlicensed, illegal television or radio station. v. pirated, pirating, pirates v.tr. 1. To attack and rob (a ship at sea). 2. To take (something) by piracy. 3. To make use of or reproduce (another's work) without authorization. v.intr. To act as a pirate; practice piracy.
If OSX is purchased off the shelf without accompanying hardware, that is instant authorization. There is no piracy if it is PURCHASED.
God it's so sad how people never bother to pay attention to high school English.
"Not to mention the 24" iMac graphics cards are not all that bad, AND can be upgraded to a gaming level card at purchase time."
AT FUCKING PURCHASE TIME. What about two years down the road when a game comes out that won't run on that card. Do you expect me to magically go back in time to CHANGE MY FUCKING ORDER FOR HARDWARE THAT DOESN'T EXIST YET?
You're the moron. Such faulty logic, such little knowledge about computers in general, and you lack the ability to think about the future.
So the moment I take out a hard drive in an apple machine (say due to failure) and replace it with one that didn't come from Apple, suddenly my OSX install is null and void and I'm in violation of copyright?
If that's the case, I'm about to go run my foot so far up Steve Job's ass the water on my knee will quench his thirst.
First Sale Doctrine includes all hardware and software, no matter what. I paid for it, I can sell it to someone else. My 3-disc FFVII set, still in my legal possession, can be resold. Same with the Playstation console that it runs on.
If Psystar bought OSX licenses, then first sale doctrine applies. They can resell the license they LEGALLY PURCHASED. The EULA is non-binding and has been found to be non-binding quite often in other states, namely California.
"You misunderstand. The EULA is a copyright license."
You misunderstand. The EULA is a one-sided contract. There is no negotiation, there is no signature from both parties. There is only "You follow this or else"
Psystar needs to get a change of venue to California and just nullify the EULA.
Or maybe they just need to hire me - getting EA's EULA removed and modified was pretty damned easy, I'd be more than happy to put the squeeze on Apple as well.
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Flash didn't have Shockwave's 3D acceleration until version 10 of Flash. That is why many devs still used Shockwave.
Surprised? Pay more attention to the featureset next time, yea?
"I was comparing the implementation of the Mechanical throttle vs Electronic Throttle Control."
Might as well be the difference between copper and steel, because inherently those are the metals used respectively in each mentioned throttle type, and is truly the major difference - analog versus digital, in a sense. One uses physical force, the other uses electrical impulses. Why not build both along the same cable? Manual control fails, send a signal down the cable anyways to force electric backups to work.
Stil too many points of failure in an electronic system. Also, more cost to repair electrical systems that fail. Wiring harnesses alone for most vehicles top three thousand dollars (the replacement for my 98 Taurus was 2200)
Nobody's probably asked, or they're having trouble with the legalese.
I was taught differently. If you're driving a manual and your throttle gets stuck, you depress the clutch and kill the vehicle. Don't bother with shifting gears or braking, stop the problem first by killing the transmission, then vehicle, then apply the brakes.
Manual transmissions should be mandatory for everyone that is not disabled.
ICEs require mechanical parts to operate. You just can't get around that. You're adding yet ANOTHER layer of complexity by introducing excessive electronics. A fully mechanical system may have a high chance of an unsafe failure but there's less of a chance of ANY failure because there are less things to fail. There's also a higher chance of cheap, safe, and effective self-repair with a mechanical system as opposed to one supported by electronics.
Also, that electronic system isn't going to do a goddamned thing for safety if the brakes totally fail, anyways. You're going to either have to force the transmission into park or you're going to have to jump from the vehicle, or crash. Just like Toyota experienced recently with one of their hybrids. Power failed, no way to stop, or effectively steer.
So I'll stick with pure mechanical.
"To propose that somehow mechanical cables are safer because they are simpler is severely flawed. "
Ahh, someone that has no clue about the physical properties of the metals about which they speak!
Steel vs Copper
Tensile strength - Steel wins
Conductivity - copper wins but steel can work just as well as copper for the simple task of transmitting electrical signals.
corrosion resistance - You can make stainless steel. Copper still corrodes.
Steel is harder than copper on the Moh's hardness scale.
Steel is pretty much superior for all but the fact that it has less electrical conductivity than copper.
And I've built junior dragster cars, so I *DO* have some degree of divine insight into how a car works. Electronic systems fail much more often than mechanical systems, from both owned purchased vehicle experience and built vehicle experience.
"*Everything* about it is hearsay until either someone succeeds in getting an FOI request honoured or the thing gets ratified and it's too late to do anything about it."
Or you could just talk to someone from France, as they have the ACTA open for anybody to view. quit thinking of US-based solutions and you'll almost always find an answer to your problems.
Yes, IT IS AS BAD AS IT SOUNDS AND LOOKS. I've read it (though my French is very craptacular,) and honestly this pretty much reeks of global domination rolling through.
Try maintaining global connections - they're very handy for things just like this.
If you read all of that you'd have found from the program that several of the offshoots from the program are computerize, and are in service, though not computerized to the extent that the OICW was. Mainly biometric locks on weapons, etc, but the OICW is the progenitor of that.
And a computer would make a damn fine replacement for a rifle if said computer was attached to a megawatt laser.
What does the bullet do when you shoot it? It PENETRATES, it DESTROYS.
PERIOD. There is NO OTHER FUNCTION FOR IT. It is meant to rip into whichever target it hits and blow it the fuck away.
"The car was capable of it, and you are not stealing anything by modifying it."
The modem is capable of it, and you're not stealing anything by modifying it, because the telcos and cable companies owe us about $200 billion dollars in services, namely 45 mbit symmetrical fiber to every home, and they're very, VERY late on delivering, past due.
We're just taking back what's rightfully ours.
"I must have missed where the military has computerized their rifles."
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Objective_Individual_Combat_Weapon_program
Anybody going after wild pig is most likely smart enough to use a cross bow or compound bow instead of a gun. Quieter, much better penetration.
Even if you don't go to the scene of a crime, failure to report your knowledge of it happening is conspiracy to witness.
That's what I was busted for in Mississippi. Even though I could not witness the crime happening and I was not directly on the property, I still got a conspiracy to witness charge.
"Selling bullets is one thing, selling bullets knowing that it'll end up being used to murder someone specific is quite another."
What the fuck are you talking about? Like there's ANY OTHER PURPOSE for a bullet. It's purpose is to KILL, PENETRATE, AND DESTROY, PERIOD.
Who says it's stealing internet service?
Did you forget we (the taxpayers) let the government hand the telcos 200 billion (at least) of our tax dollars to upgrade our network infrastructure? They still haven't delivered on their promise and they're late on it as well - as far as I'm concerned they OWE us free internet until such time that they deliver their promised 45mbit symmetrical lines to our houses.
they claim APPLE HARDWARE - so if I remove Apple's hard drive, and apple's memory, and use 3rd party memory and run/install OSX on my macbook, it's very quickly NOT APPLE HARDWARE.
Sorry, the argument falls flat on the basis that we have some warranty and compatibility/interoperability laws. What apple is trying to do goes expressly againt them.
"For Apple to provide support to those running OSX on non-Apple hardware, it would require a significant amount of money to be spent."
Most people/companies that are capable of installing OSX on non-Apple hardware probably don't need apple's craptacular support in the first place.
And that's what scares Apple, because they design their crap to break so you have to pay for support, it cuts out their revenue when the smart people step in.
pirate (prt)
n.
1.
a. One who robs at sea or plunders the land from the sea without commission from a sovereign nation.
b. A ship used for this purpose.
2. One who preys on others; a plunderer.
3. One who makes use of or reproduces the work of another without authorization.
4. One that operates an unlicensed, illegal television or radio station.
v. pirated, pirating, pirates
v.tr.
1. To attack and rob (a ship at sea).
2. To take (something) by piracy.
3. To make use of or reproduce (another's work) without authorization.
v.intr.
To act as a pirate; practice piracy.
If OSX is purchased off the shelf without accompanying hardware, that is instant authorization. There is no piracy if it is PURCHASED.
God it's so sad how people never bother to pay attention to high school English.
"Not to mention the 24" iMac graphics cards are not all that bad, AND can be upgraded to a gaming level card at purchase time."
AT FUCKING PURCHASE TIME. What about two years down the road when a game comes out that won't run on that card. Do you expect me to magically go back in time to CHANGE MY FUCKING ORDER FOR HARDWARE THAT DOESN'T EXIST YET?
You're the moron. Such faulty logic, such little knowledge about computers in general, and you lack the ability to think about the future.
You sound like the perfect Apple customer!
So the moment I take out a hard drive in an apple machine (say due to failure) and replace it with one that didn't come from Apple, suddenly my OSX install is null and void and I'm in violation of copyright?
If that's the case, I'm about to go run my foot so far up Steve Job's ass the water on my knee will quench his thirst.
First Sale Doctrine includes all hardware and software, no matter what. I paid for it, I can sell it to someone else. My 3-disc FFVII set, still in my legal possession, can be resold. Same with the Playstation console that it runs on.
If Psystar bought OSX licenses, then first sale doctrine applies. They can resell the license they LEGALLY PURCHASED. The EULA is non-binding and has been found to be non-binding quite often in other states, namely California.
You are wrong, sorry.
AKA this person is an Apple fanboi and by the virtue of their words should not be listened to at all.
"You misunderstand. The EULA is a copyright license."
You misunderstand. The EULA is a one-sided contract. There is no negotiation, there is no signature from both parties. There is only "You follow this or else"
Psystar needs to get a change of venue to California and just nullify the EULA.
Or maybe they just need to hire me - getting EA's EULA removed and modified was pretty damned easy, I'd be more than happy to put the squeeze on Apple as well.
"I don't think that Apple now, or in the future, would offer support for OSX installed on non-Apple hardware."
Last I checked Apple hardware was INTEL HARDWARE. Apple hasn't made or designed their own hardware in quite some time, now.