That's probably because a firewall and a lock are designed to keep intruders OUT not to keep your stuff IN away from people who might read it. Perhaps a better example is would you say sending your snail mail via a confidential courier in a sealed envelope is anti-social? No, but it's not an admission of guilt either.
Ok, but does bash or ksh run on windows? This is for their own OS, not unix.
Actually, yes, it does. Ever heard of cygwin? You can run a host of linux tools and shells on there including bash and ksh. I use it on my home computer so I don't have to continually reboot my computer just to use gcc or something of the like when I'm on Windows.
The reason radio and television are so closely monitored/regulated by the government is that they operate on public airwaves owned by the government. The data on the internet travels through privately owned wires and therefore is privately owned moreso than say a television program.
I don't know where you come but I believe here in the US (at least in Georgia, where I live) the driver is responsible for the contents of his car. If your friend puts crack in your glove compartment, or even has drugs on him, YOU can be charged with possession.
In the same sense, if you click on a link to kiddie porn, even if you didn't mean to, you are still held responsible as the "driver" of the computer. This is even more fair to me than the car example because you actually did the clicking on the link but you did not put crack in your friends pocket.
All I can say is always check your links people, always check your links. If you click on one of those misdirecting links like "Free IPODs" *click* KIDDIE PORN or whatever, there's really no need to sweat it, the state isn't going to waste money/court time to prosecute someone who just wanted a free Apple music playing appliance. On the other hand, if you like to look at kiddie porn often, you should probably turn browser caching off (you sick bastard).
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Now the original poster wants the people to know more than should be required, which would be equal to wanting people to know not only how to drive a car, but also how the car itself works, which is ridiculous
Nobody is asking that users know how the car itself works. Users don't need to know about SMTP or POP3 or MIME types or anything like that. They do need to know how to use their mail program to receive mail without causing an accident, much like how I need to know how to use my car to get from point A to point B without causing an accident. Knowing how to do things safely IS PART OF THE TASK.
I agree. Cars are everyday tools now. People should simply be able to use them without having to be educated about not flooring the accelerator and driving straight into oncoming traffic at 70mph.
That not knowing how to drive a car can seriously foobar your body is a problem, not people that can't drive for shit.
Just to throw some numbers out there most hits of acid these days contain about 100ug of LSD whereas back in the 60s it was more like 500ug. That should give you an idea of the difference.
Yes they do, and presumably they could find away around the ISPs filtering. But if you have to pull some secret agent stunt to keep your kids from getting around safeguards to watch porn, perhaps the problem isn't the material they're seeing on the internet, it's the values you've taught them. Personally, I would not put a safeguard on my child's computer because I would hope that I've taught him good enough values not to disobey me to look at porn.
I would be willing to pay a small (not more then a couple of bucks a month) surcharge on my internet bill to make EFFECTIVE tools avaliable to parents that could be used help them as parents
Maybe YOU would, but I would not. Now, you can easily go to http://www.christianpurity.com/ and pay a surcharge for their content filers. I can just as easily go to any major ISP and not pay for the content filters. That's my choice. With this law, I no longer have a choice and am forced to pay for something I not only don't use but don't support. Why not give consumers the right to choose for themselves?
However, they are up against a very steep wall of not being able to find a majority voice to contend with Utah's propensity to legislate their moral values
It doesn't matter if the ACLU does not find a majority voice, they're using the court system to contest the law. They only need a handful of justices to defeat Utah's propensity to legislate their moral values.
I agree with you that many children are exposed to more obscene content than they probably should be, and this may negatively effect their outlook on the world (although they probably won't be "completely messed up").
The question here though is whose responsibility it is to keep children from seeing this obscenity? Is it the government's job to raise your children, or should you as a parent take responsibility for your own child? There are already many software packages availible that allow parents to screen what their kids are seeing on the internet. Granted, these aren't foolproof but neither is blocking at the ISP level. The point is that parents are readily able to keep their kids from seeing pornographic content. If they choose not to, that is their choice as parents, negligent as it may be.
The government creating a law that requires ISPs to censor content imposes an undue burden on the company simply to accomplish something that people can do on their own with personal software. Even if you don't request censorship, YOUR rates will go up as a result of the ISPs implementing censorship.
Not only that, but this law also encroaches on interstate commerce.
Is all this really an acceptable price to pay just so you don't have to shell out 50 bucks for NetNanny?
Actually, dude, we are not talking about an "Asian-American" since the oppressed person in this case is actually a Chinese national (NOT an American citizen). Your attempt at being politically correct was actually not only politically INcorrect, but it also displayed your vast ignorance and American-centered views. Good try though.
Personally, I think it's a great book to learn from. I learned C from it myself and I never had any real difficulty. I liked how it was clear, concise, and to the point as opposed to most 900 page doorstops on learning C which have the same amount of content with about 700 pages of added fluff. Also the exercises at the end of each chapter both reinforced the lessons and helped me know if I needed to review something. All in all, I think The C Programming Language is a great book for a beginning C programmer to start with (although probably not good if you haven't done any programming at all).
Every year more EU countries and even non-EU countries switch over to Linux.
No, they won't. Entire countries are not just going to switch over, they have too much invested in MS products to make this even close to feasible. Consider that MS now controls upwards of 90% of the desktop market. People aren't going to wake up one day and think "Oh, in spite of all the money I've spent on MS software and all the time I've invested in learning how to use MS products, I think I'll switch to Linux because it's free and allows people who know how to modify the source code (I don't have the first clue LOL). Regardless of the fact that it will require me to learn an entire new way of doing things and probably greatly eliminate my productivity in the short run, it's worth it for me to switch to linux because of it's socialist model which I find unacceptable in other areas of business but completely support when it comes to software."
No, I'm sorry, just no. Personally, I use both MS products and Linux. Why? Well Linux works better for many of programming related projects I am involved in and I can get great free development tools. When it comes to gaming and general desktop applications though, I fire up my WinXP box because, well, it just works.
It's just a matter of time before MS is not even on the radar.
You have got to be kidding me. Honestly, I cannot believe someone would say something like this without any sort of evidence or support for their statement. You think MS's huge marketshare is just going to disappear? Excuse me, but what fantasy business world do you live in where that is even remotely plausible?
Looks guys, I'm not trying to be mean here, but I'm honestly sick and tired of misinformed people claiming Linux is going to take over and replace microsoft. It's just not going to happen. Linux is good for some things, and MS is good for others. They are not mutually exclusive. Live with it.
Perhaps instead of providing scholarships for students to get their CS degrees, it could provide money to fund students' research in the field of computer science. I agree, computer science is already an oversaturated field and promoting more CS majors to come and flood the market does not sound like a very good idea. However, funding for computer science projects is always in need, perhaps this money could be given specifically to students involved in projects related to linux? That might retain some of the original intent of the donors as well as make a great contribution to the field as a whole.
How many of these suits are valid, and how many are simply pissy users and overzealous lawyers?
All of them. Think of how much money could a customer hope to recover based on iPod battery life being a couple hours too short? Then think of how much money a LAWYER would make for handling a class action lawsuit for thousands of users. Now you see where these suits come from...
On a side note, when I originally tried to post this comment, I got:
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if you take eveything into account (household stuff, network equipment, etc)
Well, sure. But if you notice that in this post the kind of "market share" we were talking about was things like the "G5" he mentioned and "almost every mac in the world."
not really used anywhere except desktop/servers.
Lo and behold, that's exactly what we were talking about!
Yes, and for this reason there is more emphasis on x86 chips. In fact, if you want to look at the amount of x86 chips out there versus ppc chips, there is too little emphasis on x86 chips.
Because Linux and Macintosh do not have problems with malware, right?
Wrong. Many slashdotters seem to tout *nix as some kind of security panacea, completely disregarding the fact that Linux has just about as many security flaws as windows. Windows' flaws are just more publicized because of its much wider user base.
Now I'm not some blind Windows user and I know Windows has its problems, but for the love of God guys quit trying to demonize Microsoft so damn much just because MS programmers make mistakes like everyone else.
Microsoft is not the devil -- it's just another company trying to make a profit and there's nothing evil about that...so quit trying to act like there is!
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That's probably because a firewall and a lock are designed to keep intruders OUT not to keep your stuff IN away from people who might read it. Perhaps a better example is would you say sending your snail mail via a confidential courier in a sealed envelope is anti-social? No, but it's not an admission of guilt either.
Ok, but does bash or ksh run on windows? This is for their own OS, not unix.
Actually, yes, it does. Ever heard of cygwin? You can run a host of linux tools and shells on there including bash and ksh. I use it on my home computer so I don't have to continually reboot my computer just to use gcc or something of the like when I'm on Windows.
The reason radio and television are so closely monitored/regulated by the government is that they operate on public airwaves owned by the government. The data on the internet travels through privately owned wires and therefore is privately owned moreso than say a television program.
I don't know where you come but I believe here in the US (at least in Georgia, where I live) the driver is responsible for the contents of his car. If your friend puts crack in your glove compartment, or even has drugs on him, YOU can be charged with possession.
In the same sense, if you click on a link to kiddie porn, even if you didn't mean to, you are still held responsible as the "driver" of the computer. This is even more fair to me than the car example because you actually did the clicking on the link but you did not put crack in your friends pocket.
All I can say is always check your links people, always check your links. If you click on one of those misdirecting links like "Free IPODs" *click* KIDDIE PORN or whatever, there's really no need to sweat it, the state isn't going to waste money/court time to prosecute someone who just wanted a free Apple music playing appliance. On the other hand, if you like to look at kiddie porn often, you should probably turn browser caching off (you sick bastard).
Microsoft has released a free security update to Windows users today: Service Pack Linux. Service Pack Linux includes a fix for all IE vulnerabilities, as well as flaws in Outlook and Office. IIS users will be happy to know that Service Pack Linux will fix many problems with Microsoft's premier web server package as well. Service Pack Linux is considered the most comprehensive security fix in Windows history. Users should get it now at http://distrowatch.org/
Talk about stupid arguments :-D
Now the original poster wants the people to know more than should be required, which would be equal to wanting people to know not only how to drive a car, but also how the car itself works, which is ridiculous
Nobody is asking that users know how the car itself works. Users don't need to know about SMTP or POP3 or MIME types or anything like that. They do need to know how to use their mail program to receive mail without causing an accident, much like how I need to know how to use my car to get from point A to point B without causing an accident. Knowing how to do things safely IS PART OF THE TASK.
I agree. Cars are everyday tools now. People should simply be able to use them without having to be educated about not flooring the accelerator and driving straight into oncoming traffic at 70mph. That not knowing how to drive a car can seriously foobar your body is a problem, not people that can't drive for shit.
Just to throw some numbers out there most hits of acid these days contain about 100ug of LSD whereas back in the 60s it was more like 500ug. That should give you an idea of the difference.
Kids have a way of finding way around safe guards
Yes they do, and presumably they could find away around the ISPs filtering. But if you have to pull some secret agent stunt to keep your kids from getting around safeguards to watch porn, perhaps the problem isn't the material they're seeing on the internet, it's the values you've taught them. Personally, I would not put a safeguard on my child's computer because I would hope that I've taught him good enough values not to disobey me to look at porn.
I would be willing to pay a small (not more then a couple of bucks a month) surcharge on my internet bill to make EFFECTIVE tools avaliable to parents that could be used help them as parents
Maybe YOU would, but I would not. Now, you can easily go to http://www.christianpurity.com/ and pay a surcharge for their content filers. I can just as easily go to any major ISP and not pay for the content filters. That's my choice. With this law, I no longer have a choice and am forced to pay for something I not only don't use but don't support. Why not give consumers the right to choose for themselves?
However, they are up against a very steep wall of not being able to find a majority voice to contend with Utah's propensity to legislate their moral values
It doesn't matter if the ACLU does not find a majority voice, they're using the court system to contest the law. They only need a handful of justices to defeat Utah's propensity to legislate their moral values.
I agree with you that many children are exposed to more obscene content than they probably should be, and this may negatively effect their outlook on the world (although they probably won't be "completely messed up").
The question here though is whose responsibility it is to keep children from seeing this obscenity? Is it the government's job to raise your children, or should you as a parent take responsibility for your own child? There are already many software packages availible that allow parents to screen what their kids are seeing on the internet. Granted, these aren't foolproof but neither is blocking at the ISP level. The point is that parents are readily able to keep their kids from seeing pornographic content. If they choose not to, that is their choice as parents, negligent as it may be.
The government creating a law that requires ISPs to censor content imposes an undue burden on the company simply to accomplish something that people can do on their own with personal software. Even if you don't request censorship, YOUR rates will go up as a result of the ISPs implementing censorship.
Not only that, but this law also encroaches on interstate commerce.
Is all this really an acceptable price to pay just so you don't have to shell out 50 bucks for NetNanny?
I don't think so.
Asian-American, please.
Actually, dude, we are not talking about an "Asian-American" since the oppressed person in this case is actually a Chinese national (NOT an American citizen). Your attempt at being politically correct was actually not only politically INcorrect, but it also displayed your vast ignorance and American-centered views. Good try though.
Duh! Of course MS has to be in every business in the tech market, how else would Bill get his monopoly back =P
Personally, I think it's a great book to learn from. I learned C from it myself and I never had any real difficulty. I liked how it was clear, concise, and to the point as opposed to most 900 page doorstops on learning C which have the same amount of content with about 700 pages of added fluff. Also the exercises at the end of each chapter both reinforced the lessons and helped me know if I needed to review something. All in all, I think The C Programming Language is a great book for a beginning C programmer to start with (although probably not good if you haven't done any programming at all).
or just "Microsoft's Most Successful Business Venture"
Every year more EU countries and even non-EU countries switch over to Linux. No, they won't. Entire countries are not just going to switch over, they have too much invested in MS products to make this even close to feasible. Consider that MS now controls upwards of 90% of the desktop market. People aren't going to wake up one day and think "Oh, in spite of all the money I've spent on MS software and all the time I've invested in learning how to use MS products, I think I'll switch to Linux because it's free and allows people who know how to modify the source code (I don't have the first clue LOL). Regardless of the fact that it will require me to learn an entire new way of doing things and probably greatly eliminate my productivity in the short run, it's worth it for me to switch to linux because of it's socialist model which I find unacceptable in other areas of business but completely support when it comes to software."
No, I'm sorry, just no. Personally, I use both MS products and Linux. Why? Well Linux works better for many of programming related projects I am involved in and I can get great free development tools. When it comes to gaming and general desktop applications though, I fire up my WinXP box because, well, it just works.
It's just a matter of time before MS is not even on the radar.
You have got to be kidding me. Honestly, I cannot believe someone would say something like this without any sort of evidence or support for their statement. You think MS's huge marketshare is just going to disappear? Excuse me, but what fantasy business world do you live in where that is even remotely plausible?
Looks guys, I'm not trying to be mean here, but I'm honestly sick and tired of misinformed people claiming Linux is going to take over and replace microsoft. It's just not going to happen. Linux is good for some things, and MS is good for others. They are not mutually exclusive. Live with it.
I am that passionate young guy. I don't have a job. I've eaten ramen noodles 6 out of the past 6 days. Beware.
Perhaps instead of providing scholarships for students to get their CS degrees, it could provide money to fund students' research in the field of computer science. I agree, computer science is already an oversaturated field and promoting more CS majors to come and flood the market does not sound like a very good idea. However, funding for computer science projects is always in need, perhaps this money could be given specifically to students involved in projects related to linux? That might retain some of the original intent of the donors as well as make a great contribution to the field as a whole.
How many of these suits are valid, and how many are simply pissy users and overzealous lawyers?
All of them. Think of how much money could a customer hope to recover based on iPod battery life being a couple hours too short? Then think of how much money a LAWYER would make for handling a class action lawsuit for thousands of users. Now you see where these suits come from...
On a side note, when I originally tried to post this comment, I got:
Slashdot requires you to wait 2 minutes between each successful posting of a comment to allow everyone a fair chance at posting a comment.
It's been 7 minutes since you last successfully posted a comment
LOL! Nice work slashcoders!
if you take eveything into account (household stuff, network equipment, etc)
Well, sure. But if you notice that in this post the kind of "market share" we were talking about was things like the "G5" he mentioned and "almost every mac in the world."
not really used anywhere except desktop/servers.
Lo and behold, that's exactly what we were talking about!
They're a fairly small market share, ok
Yes, and for this reason there is more emphasis on x86 chips. In fact, if you want to look at the amount of x86 chips out there versus ppc chips, there is too little emphasis on x86 chips.
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Because Linux and Macintosh do not have problems with malware, right?
Wrong. Many slashdotters seem to tout *nix as some kind of security panacea, completely disregarding the fact that Linux has just about as many security flaws as windows. Windows' flaws are just more publicized because of its much wider user base.
Now I'm not some blind Windows user and I know Windows has its problems, but for the love of God guys quit trying to demonize Microsoft so damn much just because MS programmers make mistakes like everyone else.
Microsoft is not the devil -- it's just another company trying to make a profit and there's nothing evil about that...so quit trying to act like there is!
Too bad there's not enough water on the planet for this to happen, huh?
Considering less than half of all movies produced (excluding movies from Bollywood) are produced outside of the US, yes it is.