How exactly can you have human rights if you don't have freedom of speech? And if you don't have freedom of speech how can you have freedom of thought?
Governments will be able to censor the mere idea of human rights by simply tracking down the sources that produce those ideas, and suddenly there are no more human rights anywhere because nobody will be able to think about the concept.
All China and the NSA has to do is host the nodes people connect to when becoming anonymous.
What I don't understand is why the UN, the NSA and China are working together. It does not seem to serve the strategic interests of any one of these groups because they all want to crack down on anonymous communication domestically while promoting it in foreign countries.
Since now ISP's log your surfing habits for two years. As part of a routine backround check they can just buy a copy of your internet records from your ISP.
Group identity should be your family members, individuals who actually share your genetic code. They might not look like you but they still share the same bloodline.
The second should be those who think like you, your religion, your faith, Christian, Muslim, Jew, etc.
Race doesn't have anything to do with group identity, it's social identity. And honestly I don't see how it's rational to share any identity with people you've never met merely because they look the same. If you don't know how they think and act then you just don't know them.
If you believe in racial identity then you are the sorta person who supports Jeff Dahmer, OJ Simpson, and others because you feel like they are a part of some fictional group that only exists in your mind. Now on the otherhand if you are a gang member, a member of the mafia, or an actual tribe member then it's different but lets be realistic, most everday racists aren't members of anything, not even a church.
After the war on drugs and war on terror, how can you people be so naive?
The government doesn't give a shit about us, just like corporatios don't. We are taxpayers to governments and consumers to corporations.
The only organizations which might give a shit about people are churches and non-profits. Stop thinking government exists to serve the people. We exist to serve the governments and corporations. And anyone who thinks otherwise can go to prison
Why can't we have a system based on our own public keys ? You could upload your public key to whatever site you wanted, without needing to transmit a password at all, ever. Your password stays on your machine, and never gets shared over a network. This would eliminate needing multiple passwords for multiple sites. It works well for SSH, which I think is a tad more secure than having username/password pairs being sent to a myriad of different sites. Also, a public key based system, would allow you to be anyone you wanted on any site, as long as your public key could be validated against your private key. Kind of like a validated session cookie, you could visit a site and instantly be logged in as the user you specified originally. My password for my SSH private key is a fairly long sentence, but I only have to enter it once per local login session ( I use the SSH agent). If the sites I visit were to make use of that, then I would never need another username-password pair again. Of course this idea is not new and the principle can be found in many flavours of password storing agent software, but they all use their own standards, and they all transmit the stored password, rather than just sending a 1 or a 0.
Note I do not propose that the browser handles the verification, but that it hands off to the OS for verification, then takes the OS's response and transmits that to the web site concerned. Said website can then use a session cookie to track state as usual.
Myspace was set up and invented to assist hackers, con-artists, and stalkers. All information about you, your friends, and your family members in one place for a team of hackers to analyze.
All the names and photos to assist the teams that want to stalk you, black mail you, or extort you.
You don't like it? Pay for protection, just like 1920s mafia. It's a racket. In this case the hackers run it, because you and others were dumb enough to make their job easier by going to their website and giving them all the information they'd ever need to blackmail you with none of the effort.
Sexual blackmail is much easier, extortion is much easier, stalking is much easier, bullying is much easier, and when someone makes a threat and they have your real name, your picture, all your friends names and pictures, and they know intimate details about you, you know they mean business.
Password recovery procedures are, in general, quite disruptive, hard to hide, and require physical access to the machine. That is a deliberate design decision. Tamper evident rather than tamper proof. In any case, it is somewhere between difficult and impossible to make a system entirely hack-proof.
It's a good thing too. I long ago lost count of the number of systems I have "hacked into" on the rightful owner's behalf after passwords were lost. Everything from disgruntled admins to an old netware server that expired all passwords including the admin's.
Whole disk encryption is one way a master password that can't be hacked can be implemented, but only if you're willing to forgo any chance that it might successfully boot up unattended AND you're willing to lose the whole system in a case just like this one.
Such access can also be controlled at the application level where the system itself will boot just fine, but the app itself won't run without an unrecoverable password. That is a more common scenario, but usually seems to be due to poorly thought out design rather than a conscious security decision.
I hope these ridiculous password setups aren't used to protect any important information.
People always complain about internet hackers and cyberstalking, and cyberbullying, but Myspace was invented to assist the stalkers, bullies and hackers.
OpenID makes life even easier for hackers by centalizing the sensitive information even further. Now when you want to find your blackmail material, you can just search one ID and find all of it.
What's the point of even having a password if it can just be overwritten? Also what if the file system is encrypted with truecrypt, how exactly are you supposed to access the password hash when you can't even decrypt the partition?
I want to ask, if in your opinion transhumanism has any hope of overcoming the death instinct?
It seems that a lot of people hate life and don't want transhumanists working to increase the human lifespan. How will you deal with the political pressure?
It's nice to see everyone leap up on the bandwagon and accept the notion that this creepy woman drove an innocent kid to suicide. I'm I the only one who thinks the story entirely too pat?
Nasty postings on myspace.com are hardly going to make me do myself in. If this girl killed herself over something so utterly trivial, I should think that a little investigation would uncover someone with a pre-existing case of severe depression.
I'm not saying the woman wasn't an awful, scheming witch; I'm sure she was and is. But charging her with manslaughter as some have suggested in other posts is absurd. Most of the charges appear to be largely trumped-up political offenses; she's unpopular and must therefore be punished.
Nobody wants to discuss the issue, but the girl clearly had serious mental health problems.
Think about it.
If this had happened offline she wouldn't be charged with anything. They are doing this as a power grab, to attack the internet.
Plenty of teens commit suicide after being bullied in school and they don't charge the bully with anything.
Oh boy, the US Feds are at it again. Power-grabing J@ck@$$es. This is obviously a case of stalking, and state laws and state district attornies have some prosecuting to do if it should be done at all.
The Feds are going to have a tough battle -- they'll have to _prove_ that Lori violated the MySpace ToS in the absence of a MySpace complaint. MySpace can be brutally cross-examined and serious doubt generated about exactly what the ToS could possibly mean when they are utterly unenforced even by simple, available means ($1 cr.card charge) albeit for some reduction in customer base.
Watch lyin'Lori walk in the face of yet another botched prosecution. So many of these I wonhder if they're not deliberate, to erode liberty.
Of course they are deliberate! If you can create virtual crimes you can have virtual criminals and cyber taxes.
Myspace is a service designed to assist stalkers but putting all your most private information in one place. So now the stalkers are mad because people aren't putting their real information on Myspace (thus they are harder to stalk through the net), so now the terms of service says you must help them stalk you or face 5 years in prison.
Considering the terms of service, only a complete idiot will use Myspace now.
They want the power to arrest people for virtual crimes. This is a completely new government power being invented as we speak.
I guess there aren't enough real criminals on the internet so we have to invent new jobs for cybercops. Now we will have cops scanning sites to see who violates terms of service.
You appear to be using an alias, would like to come with us for a little while. -TLA(Three Letter Agency)
Funny, but it brings up a good point.
I was under the impression that using an Alias is not a crime, unless you are using it to perform an illegal act.
Is this no longer the case?
I think if they can apply this to her then they can use this as a way to get pretty much all of us on slashdot since all of us are using an alias.
Myspace pretty much hates all privacy rights. While what happened to that girl was morally wrong, if it wasn't illegal you can't simply invent a law that didn't exist, or bend the law to make it illegal. And when stuff like that does happen I see it happening more for political reasons than moral or legal.
So now they can wiretap us without a warrent and we want them to also be able to arrest us and give us 5 years in prison for any trivial reason they feel like? Seems like the best way to kill the internet is by declaring war on it and making use of the internet as risky as selling and using drugs.
Charge the woman for the crime she committed. Please don't charge her for a crime that I committed twice yesterday while downloading a copy of a text editor. This is the first step down the slippery slope towards prosecuting all those with the wrong political opinions.
Al Capone was prosecuted for a form of tax evasion that is a secondary effect of living a life of crime, and a crime that 95% of law abiding people don't commit. This woman is not being prosecuted for being a criminal, she is being prosecuted for lying on a trivial form at a website that few take seriously.
They are trying to see what they can get away with. You know, to see how far they can bend the law to allow them to arrest anyone they don't like.
They can't make it law to arrest people they don't like so instead they simply take an existing law and bend it to find a way to arrest people they don't like. Sure it starts with pedophiles and "bad" people, but eventually it will apply to anyone who uses the internet at all.
There are solutions to this but I must say, the geek community is asleep at the wheel this time. Being anonymous has to be a right, otherwise people will not say what they truly believe and the internet will become pretty much useless as a forum of free expression.
Just imagine when all the political sites are monitored to the point where people are reading lines from a script. You wont even be able to discuss stuff on slashdot anymore because slashdot will be filled with cybercops.
Slashdot Mirror
The USA has had thought crimes for a while now.
Pay off Google employees on international waters and then the transaction is legal.
By moving off shore they can bypass all privacy laws anywhere. This means they'll truly own our informaion.
How exactly can you have human rights if you don't have freedom of speech? And if you don't have freedom of speech how can you have freedom of thought?
Governments will be able to censor the mere idea of human rights by simply tracking down the sources that produce those ideas, and suddenly there are no more human rights anywhere because nobody will be able to think about the concept.
All China and the NSA has to do is host the nodes people connect to when becoming anonymous.
What I don't understand is why the UN, the NSA and China are working together. It does not seem to serve the strategic interests of any one of these groups because they all want to crack down on anonymous communication domestically while promoting it in foreign countries.
Since now ISP's log your surfing habits for two years. As part of a routine backround check they can just buy a copy of your internet records from your ISP.
Take a genetics class. Figure out how many genes make up eye color and then compare them to the genes which produce intelligence.
If everyone in your family is honest, then the liar is one of them, right?
Group identity should be your family members, individuals who actually share your genetic code. They might not look like you but they still share the same bloodline.
The second should be those who think like you, your religion, your faith, Christian, Muslim, Jew, etc.
Race doesn't have anything to do with group identity, it's social identity. And honestly I don't see how it's rational to share any identity with people you've never met merely because they look the same. If you don't know how they think and act then you just don't know them.
If you believe in racial identity then you are the sorta person who supports Jeff Dahmer, OJ Simpson, and others because you feel like they are a part of some fictional group that only exists in your mind. Now on the otherhand if you are a gang member, a member of the mafia, or an actual tribe member then it's different but lets be realistic, most everday racists aren't members of anything, not even a church.
After the war on drugs and war on terror, how can you people be so naive?
The government doesn't give a shit about us, just like corporatios don't. We are taxpayers to governments and consumers to corporations.
The only organizations which might give a shit about people are churches and non-profits. Stop thinking government exists to serve the people. We exist to serve the governments and corporations. And anyone who thinks otherwise can go to prison
Noobs, all your base are belongs to us.
Why can't we have a system based on our own public keys ? You could upload your public key to whatever site you wanted, without needing to transmit a password at all, ever.
Your password stays on your machine, and never gets shared over a network. This would eliminate needing multiple passwords for multiple sites. It works well for SSH, which I think is a tad more secure than having username/password pairs being sent to a myriad of different sites.
Also, a public key based system, would allow you to be anyone you wanted on any site, as long as your public key could be validated against your private key.
Kind of like a validated session cookie, you could visit a site and instantly be logged in as the user you specified originally. My password for my SSH private key is a fairly long sentence, but I only have to enter it once per local login session ( I use the SSH agent). If the sites I visit were to make use of that, then I would never need another username-password pair again.
Of course this idea is not new and the principle can be found in many flavours of password storing agent software, but they all use their own standards, and they all transmit the stored password, rather than just sending a 1 or a 0.
Note I do not propose that the browser handles the verification, but that it hands off to the OS for verification, then takes the OS's response and transmits that to the web site concerned. Said website can then use a session cookie to track state as usual.
Myspace was set up and invented to assist hackers, con-artists, and stalkers. All information about you, your friends, and your family members in one place for a team of hackers to analyze.
All the names and photos to assist the teams that want to stalk you, black mail you, or extort you.
You don't like it? Pay for protection, just like 1920s mafia. It's a racket. In this case the hackers run it, because you and others were dumb enough to make their job easier by going to their website and giving them all the information they'd ever need to blackmail you with none of the effort.
Sexual blackmail is much easier, extortion is much easier, stalking is much easier, bullying is much easier, and when someone makes a threat and they have your real name, your picture, all your friends names and pictures, and they know intimate details about you, you know they mean business.
Password recovery procedures are, in general, quite disruptive, hard to hide, and require physical access to the machine. That is a deliberate design decision. Tamper evident rather than tamper proof. In any case, it is somewhere between difficult and impossible to make a system entirely hack-proof.
It's a good thing too. I long ago lost count of the number of systems I have "hacked into" on the rightful owner's behalf after passwords were lost.
Everything from disgruntled admins to an old netware server that expired all passwords including the admin's.
Whole disk encryption is one way a master password that can't be hacked can be implemented, but only if you're willing to forgo any chance that it might successfully boot up unattended AND you're willing to lose the whole system in a case just like this one.
Such access can also be controlled at the application level where the system itself will boot just fine, but the app itself won't run without an unrecoverable password. That is a more common scenario, but usually seems to be due to poorly thought out design rather than a conscious security decision.
I hope these ridiculous password setups aren't used to protect any important information.
People always complain about internet hackers and cyberstalking, and cyberbullying, but Myspace was invented to assist the stalkers, bullies and hackers.
OpenID makes life even easier for hackers by centalizing the sensitive information even further. Now when you want to find your blackmail material, you can just search one ID and find all of it.
So why use passwords at all?
What's the point of even having a password if it can just be overwritten? Also what if the file system is encrypted with truecrypt, how exactly are you supposed to access the password hash when you can't even decrypt the partition?
Not everyone will live 130 years.
I want to ask, if in your opinion transhumanism has any hope of overcoming the death instinct?
It seems that a lot of people hate life and don't want transhumanists working to increase the human lifespan. How will you deal with the political pressure?
What vitamins would you recommend to slow the process of aging?
And are there ways in which we can collectively lower the cost of production and distribution?
It's nice to see everyone leap up on the bandwagon and accept the notion that this creepy woman drove an innocent kid to suicide. I'm I the only one who thinks the story entirely too pat?
Nasty postings on myspace.com are hardly going to make me do myself in. If this girl killed herself over something so utterly trivial, I should think that a little investigation would uncover someone with a pre-existing case of severe depression.
I'm not saying the woman wasn't an awful, scheming witch; I'm sure she was and is. But charging her with manslaughter as some have suggested in other posts is absurd. Most of the charges appear to be largely trumped-up political offenses; she's unpopular and must therefore be punished.
Nobody wants to discuss the issue, but the girl clearly had serious mental health problems.
Think about it.
If this had happened offline she wouldn't be charged with anything. They are doing this as a power grab, to attack the internet.
Plenty of teens commit suicide after being bullied in school and they don't charge the bully with anything.
Oh boy, the US Feds are at it again. Power-grabing J@ck@$$es. This is obviously a case of stalking, and state laws and state district attornies have some prosecuting to do if it should be done at all.
The Feds are going to have a tough battle -- they'll have to _prove_ that Lori violated the MySpace ToS in the absence of a MySpace complaint. MySpace can be brutally cross-examined and serious doubt generated about exactly what the ToS could possibly mean when they are utterly unenforced even by simple, available means ($1 cr.card charge) albeit for some reduction in customer base.
Watch lyin'Lori walk in the face of yet another botched prosecution. So many of these I wonhder if they're not deliberate, to erode liberty.
Of course they are deliberate! If you can create virtual crimes you can have virtual criminals and cyber taxes.
So the solution, if Myspace says it's illegal, stop using Myspace.
Do we really need an online address book? It was a stupid idea from the beginning.
What does Myspace offer it's users? Nothing!
Myspace is a service designed to assist stalkers but putting all your most private information in one place. So now the stalkers are mad because people aren't putting their real information on Myspace (thus they are harder to stalk through the net), so now the terms of service says you must help them stalk you or face 5 years in prison.
Considering the terms of service, only a complete idiot will use Myspace now.
They want the power to arrest people for virtual crimes. This is a completely new government power being invented as we speak.
I guess there aren't enough real criminals on the internet so we have to invent new jobs for cybercops. Now we will have cops scanning sites to see who violates terms of service.
You appear to be using an alias, would like to come with us for a little while. -TLA(Three Letter Agency)
Funny, but it brings up a good point.
I was under the impression that using an Alias is not a crime, unless you are using it to perform an illegal act.
Is this no longer the case?
I think if they can apply this to her then they can use this as a way to get pretty much all of us on slashdot since all of us are using an alias.
Myspace pretty much hates all privacy rights. While what happened to that girl was morally wrong, if it wasn't illegal you can't simply invent a law that didn't exist, or bend the law to make it illegal. And when stuff like that does happen I see it happening more for political reasons than moral or legal.
So now they can wiretap us without a warrent and we want them to also be able to arrest us and give us 5 years in prison for any trivial reason they feel like? Seems like the best way to kill the internet is by declaring war on it and making use of the internet as risky as selling and using drugs.
Charge the woman for the crime she committed. Please don't charge her for a crime that I committed twice yesterday while downloading a copy of a text editor. This is the first step down the slippery slope towards prosecuting all those with the wrong political opinions.
Al Capone was prosecuted for a form of tax evasion that is a secondary effect of living a life of crime, and a crime that 95% of law abiding people don't commit. This woman is not being prosecuted for being a criminal, she is being prosecuted for lying on a trivial form at a website that few take seriously.
They are trying to see what they can get away with. You know, to see how far they can bend the law to allow them to arrest anyone they don't like.
They can't make it law to arrest people they don't like so instead they simply take an existing law and bend it to find a way to arrest people they don't like. Sure it starts with pedophiles and "bad" people, but eventually it will apply to anyone who uses the internet at all.
There are solutions to this but I must say, the geek community is asleep at the wheel this time. Being anonymous has to be a right, otherwise people will not say what they truly believe and the internet will become pretty much useless as a forum of free expression.
Just imagine when all the political sites are monitored to the point where people are reading lines from a script. You wont even be able to discuss stuff on slashdot anymore because slashdot will be filled with cybercops.