People have not changed as much as you seem to think. Values don't change much, the form changes. Yesterdays values were todays values which will become tomorrows values. You'll have new names for these values, you'll have new technology, so these values might be in a different format, but cultural values are in our genes. People are not going to change their values because science says so. Just like you arent going to believe in god no matter how many bibles you read. Someone who believes in god or traditional culture is not going to believe in your science no matter what you say or how many facts you come with.
You seem to be a person who spends a lot of time in the classroom. Have a look at the real world. Discrimination has always existed and always will exist. The only difference is the form. If you end Aparthied in South Africa you simply are creating a new form of Aparthied somewhere else. If you allow women to vote,the end result is simply that modifications will be made somewhere else in favor of men. The simple fact is, no matter what changes you make, all changes are simply cosmetic. In the long term nothing changes. So get used to it. We live in the same world we lived in 100 years ago, or 1000 years ago, the difference is we have more science, more technology, and more people. Discrimination still exists, the world is still unfair, fairness has never existed and never will, and there will always be division among people.
What's the point in trying to change things when the majority of people want things to stay the same? It's not about race, its not about gender bias, it's not about discrimination, it's about the fact that equality cannot exist due to cultural reasons. We are a cultural conservative country, we want things to be exactly the way they are. We don't want change. You can call my comments dumb or whatever, but look at the world and step outside of the classroom once in a while. Nothing you said in your post proved anything but the fact that you don't seem to have an understanding of how the world really is.
See the world how it is, and adapt to it, instead of trying to change it. If you try to change the world, ultimately the only changes you'll make, will be cosmetic, because there are more people who want the world to stay the same than people who want the world to change. What are you going to say next? Are you going to challenge capitalism itself? Are you going communist?
Think more. Money is not only about greed, money is also love. Of course you can love yourself, but no one says you cannot love others also. Point is, you need money. Money is love.
The few at the top can actually afford to survive. The few at the bottom have more children because they need more children to survive and work. If you are a farmer yes you'll have plenty of kids, but most of your kids won't live for very long, and with the current healthcare system and education system in America, explain to me why you think people living in poverty have any chance of survival. Sure people are surviving in poverty, but this is because the economy is strong. When and if inflation kicks in, and the price of gas goes up, this can change. Ultimately you can survive if you are individually weak, but this is why we have the church. We have churches to help those who are weak but who believe in a higher power.
As much as people like to talk bad about President Bush, he is actually funding churches. Let's give him credit, he does believe in faith based initiatives. If you want to be an athiest, then don't expect to be helped out, athiest make up like 1% of the population. America believes in God.
Society is not a collective of smart people. Intelligence does not create unity. Religion creates unity. Intelligence creates colleges, and most people who go to college then go on to compete with each other for crap jobs. Unity comes from god, through religion, not through science and not through intellect.
Strength is money, the more money you have the stronger you become. Culture is more important than intellect, because if you just have intellect, without any religion, or culture, then you'll be a typical liberal.
This is what liberals don't seem to understand, America is culturally conservative. There was a time when I thought like you did, but look at reality. If your liberal ideas were correct, then the current reality would reflect this. In reality, America is religious, America is culturally conservative, and if you want to focus on something important, focus your science on the economy, because thats about the only thing that math and science can explain. People do not need science to tell them how to think, people have god, people have culture, and just because you get a team of scientists to tell them they are wrong does not change their minds on anything.
So lets put it this way, if you want to survive, you need a strong economy. If you are in a society, your society needs a strong economy to survive. Therefore the only thing that matters is the economy. Culturally we can be conservative or progressive, but if the economy isnt working, we cannot survive. America is currently culturally conservative, as long as our economy is strong we will be fine. Think and work within the conservative worldview and framework.
Science is bullshit, the only thing that passes on from generation to generation is culture. The concept of race will not go away just because science disproves of it. The concept of race will never go away just like Christianity will never go away. The economy, the culture, the religion, these things matter more than science ever will. Science could say anything, but it will be explained in a cultural lense. Race will always exist, and if science says race is not defined by skin color and physical features, race will be defined by class, or by other features by those who are educated. Race will always exist because culturally people require it to exist. Religiously, race will exist, just like capitalism will always exist.
Cultural conservativism is the answer. The economy points toward a conservative culture. Always follow the economy. We are not going to wake up tomorrow, and have all of this science stuff be accepted, it's just too progressive to be acceptable. It is too much change too fast. Ultimately, change like this will only redefine the culture, it will put a new face on it, you don't like the current discrimination based on skin color and physical appearance? Great, prepare for the new discrimination by genes and class. The point is, this is our culture, it will not go away, it's in our genetic code to be this way, and simply by telling us its in our genetic code, or showing us our code, it's not going to change a damn thing because religion and culture are not defined by math equations.
Just because you have 20 kids does not mean these 20 kids will all survive. You see, poor people in Africa are having kids. Poor people in the third world are having kids. Poor people in America are having kids. Most of these kids will not survive, because healthcare costs will rise, the cost of living will rise, the cost of education will rise, the cost of everything will rise. Sure some poor people will become rich, and some poor people will survive, but living in poverty means accepting greater risks, a harder life, and usually a shorter less healthy life. You will not have access to clean air, clean water, clean food, or healthcare. Society is not designed to help the weak poor, society is designed to help the strong rich.
So it should be obvious which genes our economy values most.
If you want to evolve, find or create a good job for yourself, make plenty of money, and this is called being strong.
If you don't want to evolve, then you simply won't make enough money or any money and you'll fall between the cracks. When we pritivize social security, and stop some of these social programs, then we will have an evolutionary market. Always follow the market, always support the economy.
In our culture, the amount of cash you have decides how weak or strong you are. Genetically, we have a concept called races. Culture decides evolution, religion decides evolution, it has little if anything to do with genetics and never did.
So all of this pseudo science of genes wont really matter. Culturally we arent going to change. We have a concept already which defines evolution and we call these evolutionary tracks races. We also have classes which defines the rate of evolution inter-racially. If you want to track evolution, it's simple, if you are rich you are more evolved than if you are poor. If you are rich your genes have a greater chance of passing on, and if we want to evolve more efficiently then we need to focus on having a strong economy.
I think with a fast economy, the market will solve everything. Let the market figure evolution out, because science is just a bunch of theories, and ultimately no matter what science says, we arent going to change.
What ever happened to the theory of root races and our religious traditions? Adam and Eve? What are the side effects of this science on religon and religous tradition?
What makes you think the Democrats would run government any better? No matter how leftist the Democratic party decides to go, Democrats are the party of big government. Also this myth about the "Stolen" elections. Republicans win elections, Democrats lose. Republicans are simply better at winning actual elections, while Democrats perhaps are better about talking about the election and hyping up their victory which usually means they've lost already.
I don't listen to all the hype, it's really simple, Democrats don't know shit about politics, if Democrats knew about politics they'd be running congress, senate and the presidency right now. So we can debate all night, but the Republican majority speaks for itself. We can also debate the free market, look, you cannot fight the market, as much as you want to bring socialism and regulation, if big corporations want free markets they will have free markets, and if you were a smart politician then you'd know that if you want to win at fundraising you NEED the support of big corporations and of CEOs.
Democrats have been consistantly out funded, their political skill s are weak, their organizing skills are weak, lets face it, it's pointless even for you, to bother trying to solve the Democratic parties problems. I know you must be a socialist, but look, socialism is dead, it died in the last century, it's not coming back, it will never be back. The days of FDR are over, the days of social security, medicare, and support from the federal government are over, these days are never coming back. Learn to survive without these things. Social security will be privatized. Private schools will become the norm. Taxes will be cut. All of these social engineering programs will be cut. If you want these programs, pay for them yourself. No one stops you from paying for your own retirement. In the end, the government saves money by privitization. You save money from privitization, you just don't know it yet. The world will be better because of this.
That is exactly the problem here. No one knows what Democrats stand for. Democrats don't stand for anything. At least we know what Republicans stand for. At least Republicans have a plan.
What is the Democrat plan? Democrats are reactionaries who simply go against whatever the Republicans say or do. Republicans cut taxes and Democrats are against it. Republicans want to save Schaivo and Democrats are against it. Democrats are simply against anything Republican and have no against besides being the party of no.
The Republicans at least have ideas. What ideas do Democrats have? Democrats have none, Republicans have some. Some Republican ideas are brand new, like reforming social security and privatizing it. Democrats never thought of this. What about reducing the dividends tax? Democrats never thought of this. Republicans are for a free economy, privatization, and a strong military. What are Democrats for? Universal health care? Democrats are for Universal Healthcare but who is going to pay for it?
I don't know why you pay any attention to those ridiculous polls. Democrats can have all the poll numbers, the fact is, when voting time comes, no one wants to vote for a party with no new ideas. Democrats refuse to innovate, and only want to continue with more of the same tax and spend garbage which they have tried before.
Look, as far as politics and organzing goes, Democrats suck at it. Democrats have no leader, Democrats have no message, Democrats have no organization, and worst of all Democrats have no base. Who are the Democratic base anyway? Most people vote for Democrats on issues, not because Democrats are skilled politicians who efficiently run government.
The polls supported John Kerry, remember? John Kerry lost the election. The polls supported Al Gore, remember? Gore lost the elections. The polls don't matter. The point is, Democrats are in the wrong century. I mean, look, show me one Democrat who you think is going to lead this so called take back of Congress. Even if Democrats somehow take back a few seats, lets face it, our country is conservative. I don't know who where Democrats are going to get the votes from at this point. They are just out of the mainstream and falling off the edge of the left cliff right now.
Democrats have no chance of retaking Congress or Senate! Are you out of your minds?
Even if Democrats somehow were to win a few seats, Democrats arent organized and arent good at politics. I myself will be voting Republican.
Democrats have old ideas, from the last century, which simply will not apply to this century. We need new ideas, and Republicans happen to be the party of ideas right now while the Democrats are the party of no ideas.
Seems you hate the liberal arts, but without philosophy degrees you wouldnt have laws, lawyers, and long term planning. Ultimately you need liberals arts even if just to write all the books and interpret all the laws.
Math can teach you how the world works but without understanding why, then the world still wont make sense.
Where do people get the idea that there is no water or food in Africa? If you or I went to Africa with our money, we'd have plenty of water and food, and would be in a posh hotel, with servants.
It's not that the food and water does not exist, its that native Africans cannot afford it due to not having jobs. Do you really want Africa to be a nation of farmers or do you want them to join the global economy?
I don't think it takes that long. Communist China was once far poorer and in a bad situation. China is just now becoming rich. India was in the same poverty Africa is in if not worse at one point, but now India is doing well at least in some places. In a couple decades a situation can change.
This is why you dont just throw laptops at the problem. Google should open offices and give jobs so people don't have to steal. Just bring computers and hire people to write code.
Name some of these now highly profitable businesses which were funded or aided by Google. Show me some businesses that actually have a chance at making a profit and I'll take it seriously.
I think your idea is the best yet. If Google wants to help they should use the summer of code, and contribute in areas they actually know something about. I think it would help MANY MANY people in MANY countries if Google actually decided to give $4500 for code. Also, $4500 means a lot to someone in the third world.
I don't think 1 billion should be spent on code, but if $100 million were spent on code, with a specific focus on the third world, I think this would do more for society, creating jobs, and creating talent than would just bringing charity.
Africa DOES have food. Africa DOES have water. You will not decrease the PRICE of water simply by generating more of it, or by making it cleaner. You will NOT reduce the price of food simply by generating more of it. You WILL however allow Africans to buy more food if they have the money to go to the McDonalds that is right in the middle of their jobless city. You will be able to get a drink if you go to the store and buy a Coke, or a bottled water. If people are starving and dying of thirst maybe its because people don't have jobs and can't afford not to starve?
The infastructure can only be developed AFTER you bring jobs. You cannot bring infastructure before you bring jobs, because building infastructure IS a job. If Google decides to offer wifi internet access, just opening an office there brings jobs.
We SHOULD NOT ship THOSE jobs to Mexico. We should not buy FOOD from Mexico when we can buy food from America. We should not buy cars from Mexico when we can buy cars from America. But when it comes to hiring programmers, we already are outsourcing these jobs to India, so why not Mexico?
I'm not saying I am for outsourcing, if that is what you think, but if we are going to create jobs, we should buy products from Mexico, products we actually need, that we cannot buy in America for a reasonable price. An example of this could be clothing. If we buy our clothing from Mexico and Africa instead of China we'd actually get even cheaper clothes. Sorry but food is not something you'd want to buy from Mexico right now during the war on terror now is it?
I think the main problem in brown countries is that America does not trade with brown countries. You can call it racism, I don't know, but if you look at South America, our neighbors to the south, or Mexico directly below us, we barely trade with them and they are right next door. We bring more jobs to China and India than we do to Mexico, then we complain about illegal immigration.
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People have not changed as much as you seem to think. Values don't change much, the form changes. Yesterdays values were todays values which will become tomorrows values. You'll have new names for these values, you'll have new technology, so these values might be in a different format, but cultural values are in our genes. People are not going to change their values because science says so. Just like you arent going to believe in god no matter how many bibles you read. Someone who believes in god or traditional culture is not going to believe in your science no matter what you say or how many facts you come with.
You seem to be a person who spends a lot of time in the classroom. Have a look at the real world. Discrimination has always existed and always will exist. The only difference is the form. If you end Aparthied in South Africa you simply are creating a new form of Aparthied somewhere else. If you allow women to vote,the end result is simply that modifications will be made somewhere else in favor of men. The simple fact is, no matter what changes you make, all changes are simply cosmetic. In the long term nothing changes. So get used to it. We live in the same world we lived in 100 years ago, or 1000 years ago, the difference is we have more science, more technology, and more people. Discrimination still exists, the world is still unfair, fairness has never existed and never will, and there will always be division among people.
What's the point in trying to change things when the majority of people want things to stay the same? It's not about race, its not about gender bias, it's not about discrimination, it's about the fact that equality cannot exist due to cultural reasons. We are a cultural conservative country, we want things to be exactly the way they are. We don't want change. You can call my comments dumb or whatever, but look at the world and step outside of the classroom once in a while. Nothing you said in your post proved anything but the fact that you don't seem to have an understanding of how the world really is.
See the world how it is, and adapt to it, instead of trying to change it. If you try to change the world, ultimately the only changes you'll make, will be cosmetic, because there are more people who want the world to stay the same than people who want the world to change. What are you going to say next? Are you going to challenge capitalism itself? Are you going communist?
Think more. Money is not only about greed, money is also love.
Of course you can love yourself, but no one says you cannot love others also. Point is, you need money. Money is love.
The few at the top can actually afford to survive. The few at the bottom have more children because they need more children to survive and work. If you are a farmer yes you'll have plenty of kids, but most of your kids won't live for very long, and with the current healthcare system and education system in America, explain to me why you think people living in poverty have any chance of survival. Sure people are surviving in poverty, but this is because the economy is strong. When and if inflation kicks in, and the price of gas goes up, this can change. Ultimately you can survive if you are individually weak, but this is why we have the church. We have churches to help those who are weak but who believe in a higher power.
As much as people like to talk bad about President Bush, he is actually funding churches. Let's give him credit, he does believe in faith based initiatives. If you want to be an athiest, then don't expect to be helped out, athiest make up like 1% of the population. America believes in God.
Society is not a collective of smart people. Intelligence does not create unity. Religion creates unity. Intelligence creates colleges, and most people who go to college then go on to compete with each other for crap jobs. Unity comes from god, through religion, not through science and not through intellect.
Strength is money, the more money you have the stronger you become. Culture is more important than intellect, because if you just have intellect, without any religion, or culture, then you'll be a typical liberal.
This is what liberals don't seem to understand, America is culturally conservative. There was a time when I thought like you did, but look at reality. If your liberal ideas were correct, then the current reality would reflect this. In reality, America is religious, America is culturally conservative, and if you want to focus on something important, focus your science on the economy, because thats about the only thing that math and science can explain. People do not need science to tell them how to think, people have god, people have culture, and just because you get a team of scientists to tell them they are wrong does not change their minds on anything.
So lets put it this way, if you want to survive, you need a strong economy. If you are in a society, your society needs a strong economy to survive. Therefore the only thing that matters is the economy. Culturally we can be conservative or progressive, but if the economy isnt working, we cannot survive. America is currently culturally conservative, as long as our economy is strong we will be fine. Think and work within the conservative worldview and framework.
Science is bullshit, the only thing that passes on from generation to generation is culture.
The concept of race will not go away just because science disproves of it. The concept of race will never go away just like Christianity will never go away. The economy, the culture, the religion, these things matter more than science ever will. Science could say anything, but it will be explained in a cultural lense. Race will always exist, and if science says race is not defined by skin color and physical features, race will be defined by class, or by other features by those who are educated. Race will always exist because culturally people require it to exist. Religiously, race will exist, just like capitalism will always exist.
Cultural conservativism is the answer. The economy points toward a conservative culture. Always follow the economy. We are not going to wake up tomorrow, and have all of this science stuff be accepted, it's just too progressive to be acceptable. It is too much change too fast. Ultimately, change like this will only redefine the culture, it will put a new face on it, you don't like the current discrimination based on skin color and physical appearance? Great, prepare for the new discrimination by genes and class. The point is, this is our culture, it will not go away, it's in our genetic code to be this way, and simply by telling us its in our genetic code, or showing us our code, it's not going to change a damn thing because religion and culture are not defined by math equations.
Just because you have 20 kids does not mean these 20 kids will all survive. You see, poor people in Africa are having kids. Poor people in the third world are having kids. Poor people in America are having kids. Most of these kids will not survive, because healthcare costs will rise, the cost of living will rise, the cost of education will rise, the cost of everything will rise. Sure some poor people will become rich, and some poor people will survive, but living in poverty means accepting greater risks, a harder life, and usually a shorter less healthy life. You will not have access to clean air, clean water, clean food, or healthcare. Society is not designed to help the weak poor, society is designed to help the strong rich.
So it should be obvious which genes our economy values most.
If you want to evolve, find or create a good job for yourself, make plenty of money, and this is called being strong.
If you don't want to evolve, then you simply won't make enough money or any money and you'll fall between the cracks. When we pritivize social security, and stop some of these social programs, then we will have an evolutionary market. Always follow the market, always support the economy.
In our culture, the amount of cash you have decides how weak or strong you are. Genetically, we have a concept called races. Culture decides evolution, religion decides evolution, it has little if anything to do with genetics and never did.
So all of this pseudo science of genes wont really matter. Culturally we arent going to change. We have a concept already which defines evolution and we call these evolutionary tracks races. We also have classes which defines the rate of evolution inter-racially. If you want to track evolution, it's simple, if you are rich you are more evolved than if you are poor. If you are rich your genes have a greater chance of passing on, and if we want to evolve more efficiently then we need to focus on having a strong economy.
I think with a fast economy, the market will solve everything. Let the market figure evolution out, because science is just a bunch of theories, and ultimately no matter what science says, we arent going to change.
What ever happened to the theory of root races and our religious traditions? Adam and Eve?
What are the side effects of this science on religon and religous tradition?
What makes you think the Democrats would run government any better?
No matter how leftist the Democratic party decides to go, Democrats are the party of big government. Also this myth about the "Stolen" elections. Republicans win elections, Democrats lose. Republicans are simply better at winning actual elections, while Democrats perhaps are better about talking about the election and hyping up their victory which usually means they've lost already.
I don't listen to all the hype, it's really simple, Democrats don't know shit about politics, if Democrats knew about politics they'd be running congress, senate and the presidency right now. So we can debate all night, but the Republican majority speaks for itself. We can also debate the free market, look, you cannot fight the market, as much as you want to bring socialism and regulation, if big corporations want free markets they will have free markets, and if you were a smart politician then you'd know that if you want to win at fundraising you NEED the support of big corporations and of CEOs.
Democrats have been consistantly out funded, their political skill s are weak, their organizing skills are weak, lets face it, it's pointless even for you, to bother trying to solve the Democratic parties problems. I know you must be a socialist, but look, socialism is dead, it died in the last century, it's not coming back, it will never be back. The days of FDR are over, the days of social security, medicare, and support from the federal government are over, these days are never coming back. Learn to survive without these things. Social security will be privatized. Private schools will become the norm. Taxes will be cut. All of these social engineering programs will be cut. If you want these programs, pay for them yourself. No one stops you from paying for your own retirement. In the end, the government saves money by privitization. You save money from privitization, you just don't know it yet. The world will be better because of this.
That is exactly the problem here. No one knows what Democrats stand for. Democrats don't stand for anything. At least we know what Republicans stand for. At least Republicans have a plan.
What is the Democrat plan? Democrats are reactionaries who simply go against whatever the Republicans say or do. Republicans cut taxes and Democrats are against it. Republicans want to save Schaivo and Democrats are against it. Democrats are simply against anything Republican and have no against besides being the party of no.
The Republicans at least have ideas. What ideas do Democrats have?
Democrats have none, Republicans have some. Some Republican ideas are brand new, like reforming social security and privatizing it. Democrats never thought of this. What about reducing the dividends tax? Democrats never thought of this. Republicans are for a free economy, privatization, and a strong military. What are Democrats for? Universal health care? Democrats are for Universal Healthcare but who is going to pay for it?
I don't know why you pay any attention to those ridiculous polls.
Democrats can have all the poll numbers, the fact is, when voting time comes, no one wants to vote for a party with no new ideas. Democrats refuse to innovate, and only want to continue with more of the same tax and spend garbage which they have tried before.
Look, as far as politics and organzing goes, Democrats suck at it. Democrats have no leader, Democrats have no message, Democrats have no organization, and worst of all Democrats have no base. Who are the Democratic base anyway? Most people vote for Democrats on issues, not because Democrats are skilled politicians who efficiently run government.
The polls supported John Kerry, remember? John Kerry lost the election. The polls supported Al Gore, remember? Gore lost the elections. The polls don't matter. The point is, Democrats are in the wrong century. I mean, look, show me one Democrat who you think is going to lead this so called take back of Congress. Even if Democrats somehow take back a few seats, lets face it, our country is conservative. I don't know who where Democrats are going to get the votes from at this point. They are just out of the mainstream and falling off the edge of the left cliff right now.
Democrats have no chance of retaking Congress or Senate! Are you out of your minds?
Even if Democrats somehow were to win a few seats, Democrats arent organized and arent good at politics. I myself will be voting Republican.
Democrats have old ideas, from the last century, which simply will not apply to this century. We need new ideas, and Republicans happen to be the party of ideas right now while the Democrats are the party of no ideas.
There is a logical math behind laws. Laws exist in math too. Point is, language must define all laws including math laws.
Seems you hate the liberal arts, but without philosophy degrees you wouldnt have laws, lawyers, and long term planning. Ultimately you need liberals arts even if just to write all the books and interpret all the laws.
Math can teach you how the world works but without understanding why, then the world still wont make sense.
Where do people get the idea that there is no water or food in Africa? If you or I went to Africa with our money, we'd have plenty of water and food, and would be in a posh hotel, with servants.
It's not that the food and water does not exist, its that native Africans cannot afford it due to not having jobs. Do you really want Africa to be a nation of farmers or do you want them to join the global economy?
I don't think it takes that long. Communist China was once far poorer and in a bad situation. China is just now becoming rich. India was in the same poverty Africa is in if not worse at one point, but now India is doing well at least in some places. In a couple decades a situation can change.
This is why you dont just throw laptops at the problem. Google should open offices and give jobs so people don't have to steal. Just bring computers and hire people to write code.
Name some of these now highly profitable businesses which were funded or aided by Google. Show me some businesses that actually have a chance at making a profit and I'll take it seriously.
I think your idea is the best yet. If Google wants to help they should use the summer of code, and contribute in areas they actually know something about. I think it would help MANY MANY people in MANY countries if Google actually decided to give $4500 for code. Also, $4500 means a lot to someone in the third world.
I don't think 1 billion should be spent on code, but if $100 million were spent on code, with a specific focus on the third world, I think this would do more for society, creating jobs, and creating talent than would just bringing charity.
Africa DOES have food. Africa DOES have water. You will not decrease the PRICE of water simply by generating more of it, or by making it cleaner. You will NOT reduce the price of food simply by generating more of it. You WILL however allow Africans to buy more food if they have the money to go to the McDonalds that is right in the middle of their jobless city. You will be able to get a drink if you go to the store and buy a Coke, or a bottled water. If people are starving and dying of thirst maybe its because people don't have jobs and can't afford not to starve?
The infastructure can only be developed AFTER you bring jobs. You cannot bring infastructure before you bring jobs, because building infastructure IS a job. If Google decides to offer wifi internet access, just opening an office there brings jobs.
We SHOULD NOT ship THOSE jobs to Mexico. We should not buy FOOD from Mexico when we can buy food from America. We should not buy cars from Mexico when we can buy cars from America. But when it comes to hiring programmers, we already are outsourcing these jobs to India, so why not Mexico?
I'm not saying I am for outsourcing, if that is what you think, but if we are going to create jobs, we should buy products from Mexico, products we actually need, that we cannot buy in America for a reasonable price. An example of this could be clothing. If we buy our clothing from Mexico and Africa instead of China we'd actually get even cheaper clothes. Sorry but food is not something you'd want to buy from Mexico right now during the war on terror now is it?
I think the main problem in brown countries is that America does not trade with brown countries. You can call it racism, I don't know, but if you look at South America, our neighbors to the south, or Mexico directly below us, we barely trade with them and they are right next door. We bring more jobs to China and India than we do to Mexico, then we complain about illegal immigration.