You know how much that would cost and how many people would be involved? Assassinations that involve 100's or even 1000's of highly paid and prominent biochemists, genetic engineers and lab techs are not going to be secret for long. Brain meet bullet/arrow/rock is a tried and true method for killing someone quietly for a reason.
How hard is it to keep secret if each one of those scientists are threatened with death? They may even have specific viruses for specific races and family trees. There is no thing to stop our government or other governments form targeting specific families.
This didn't start with Obama either. This is ingrained in our society, and accepted by many in the name of national security. That's a very grave mistake. Books like "The Federal Mafia" have been banned, and New York Times reporters have been silenced by being thrown in jail. It is very troubling that this trend continues, and everyone should be protesting it.
Even if the feds are a mafia, they are a legal mafia.
Lets just hope for the best as that's all we can really do.
That's the American, can-do, revolutionary spirit of our founding fathers! In fact, I think that's written somewhere in the Declaration of Independence. "When in the Course of human events it becomes necessary for one people to dissolve the political bands which have connected them with another and to assume among the powers of the earth, the separate and equal station to which the Laws of Nature and of Nature's God entitle them, just hope for the best, as that's all we can really do."
Have a revolution or don't. Don't pretend there's nothing you can do.
They tried revolution in the 60s. Look at the results.
Lol, if they have a lethal virus and they release it and cause an epidemic they are going to be found out pretty quickly. There are at least 10,000 labs in the US alone that could check the genes in a virus or bacteria. A bullet and being thrown into a blast furnace works much better.
Also found out by whom? Who is supposed to do anything to find anything out when the government does it? If the government does it then it's legal and theres nothing to find out. That means there would be no investigation.
Even if the virus tactic doesn't work they could just hang someone with a noose and claim they committed suicide.
Lol, if they have a lethal virus and they release it and cause an epidemic they are going to be found out pretty quickly. There are at least 10,000 labs in the US alone that could check the genes in a virus or bacteria. A bullet and being thrown into a blast furnace works much better.
Not if the virus is specifically designed to target the immune system of the person they want to kill. You forget that viruses can be harmless when they infect one person with a type of DNA, but completely destroy the immune system of another person with different DNA. When you consider that the government knows which method of attack is likely to kill the different people, you can see that even an ordinary flu can be deadly if it infects the right person at the right time.
This happened about a week ago. The owner of the single server (that's right, it was all on one single server, with no backups) posted to WebHostingTalk.com to complain because BurstNet wouldn't violate the government's order to keep quiet.
The authorities ordered BurstNet to take the server offline for what appeared to be very, very serious violations. Based on BurstNet's demeanor and seriousness when asked about the issue, it could be anything from national security to child porn. BurstNet also appears to have been hit with a gag order, as they've only made one (perhaps two) public comments on the situation, and absolutely refuse to make any more announcements.
Don't take my word for it - read up on the situation at the original WHT thread (which is now closed).
If it's national security and they fight back they could get killed, or snatched up and beaten/waterboarded. Or they could just be arrested without charge and put in prison.
So nobody is going to mess with the government. The best and only option in this situation is to keep your mouth shut, call your lawyer, and hope that it can be sorted out within the legal system.
Free speech is a myth. Human rights is a dream. Freedom isn't real.
The meaning of these three sentences is very simple. Every human on planet earth must submit to the authority of Uncle Sam or they shall be punished with jail or death.
Fortunately the US government has not decided on mass assassinations, but the authority exists under the law to make every living person submit under the threat of death.
This means it's no longer an option to disobey the US government. If you disobey then you'll go to jail. If you disobey in the wrong way, you may be declared a terrorist and then you go to jail and get tortured in jail. If you fight by with physical force you can be declared as an enemy combatant and then you can get assassinated.
All of the evidence against you can be kept secret. The fact that you were assassinated and didn't die in a freak accident can be kept secret. The game is submit or go to jail. And sometimes even if you submit you still go to jail if you piss too many people off.
Why would they have to kill someone in a raid when they can kill someone with the flu, or with something which will look like natural causes? You underestimate the abilities of the government. They have biological weapons, this means viruses of all sorts which can kill in all kinds of ways without a trace or shred of evidence so that it's completely deniable. The same legal authority which allows the government to conduct raids and trample free speech is the legal authority which allows them to assassinate American citizens. It's the law that if you are considered to be a terrorist, it's open season on you.
Once the government declares you fair game, they'll put the green light on you and whoever takes you out will become a millionaire. Fortunately it's still expensive for them to do this so they don't have the ability to kill millions of people, but it should be common knowledge that the US government has the power to assassinate American citizens.
You, and others like you, have no alternative. You can submit to the authority of the US government or you can be assassinated in a way which looks like natural causes by secret agents who have the legal authority to assassinate terrorists.
What this means is there is no option to rebel. There is no option to protest beyond mere words, and even words can get you put in jail in this environment.
Anytime you hear stories from anonymous government sources and anonymous agents, it's bullshit. Anybody who really works for the government and who really has something to say, will be able to say it on the record or provide authentic documents to back up what they are saying.
Otherwise it's as simple as someone wearing a suit and tie with a fake badge telling people they work for the government. Anybody can say this, anybody can talk like this, I see it on Alex Jones all the time. Thats when they call it a conspiracy theory, and I'm calling it a conspiracy theory in this instance.
If you are a civilian, you have one of two options. You can either submit, or you can go to jail. That is the game. The owners who made the rules designed it so that you only have two options. It does not matter whether or not you are an information producer or information consumer, if you are a producer you have to submit to being pimped and treated like their property. You are going to be forced to whore yourself out to the highest bidder. If you are a consumer you'll have to submit to some of the most draconian anti consumer laws on the planet.
Just like in the 60s, those who don't submit will go up against Cointel Pro. You want to start a militia? You want to rebel? Not going to be an option. The only option is to submit or go to jail. Choose your option wisely because they can always change the game later to submit or die.
They who want the power, the profits, the control over all information and intellectual property, will do anything to get it. It's a war for information control. It's a war you as a civilian cannot win. It does not matter if you are a civilian artist (you'll get pimped by the system), it does not matter if you are a civilian consumer (you'll be forced into submission or jail.)
The rules to this game are simple. Submit or jail.
You can blame it on culture. You can blame it on trends. It's really as simple as the people who have the power will do anything to keep the power. They will make as many laws as they have to, they will trample as many civil liberties as they have to, because they function as a mafia.
You are either with them or against them. Submit or go to jail.
Job exist because people exist who need things. Population growth immediately implies job growth.
Plenty of people in the third world need a lot of things. Why aren't there plenty of jobs? Oh thats right, the global economy isn't at all a fair or free market. The winners and losers are decided in advance for political reasons. So population growth has absolutely nothing to do with job growth as we see. We can see in the USA that population growth has no correlation with job growth and it's not implied, it's a fact.
You seem to believe that people don't have money to spend unless the government gives them money. That's a stunningly wrong idea. People have money because people start businesses to serve the needs of those people whi need things.
My naive brother where are they supposed to get the free money to live on to make it from one day to the next? Where are they supposed to get the money to start businesses? Where is the free money supposed to come from to fuel all that? It simply does not exist. The private banks don't lend to people who arent already rich with good credit. The government doesn't have the money to lend to anyone because it spent the money bailing out the banks. So theres no money to start businesses with and all the government can do is pay to keep people alive.
As long as the government doens't raise too many barriers to doing that (through central planning, regulatory capture, or just plain making it illegal for anyone but their friends to be in some business) job growth is the natural and normal result of population growth.
You offer no evidence proving correlation between population growth and job growth. In fact that hasn't been the case since the 1970s according to the facts. With technology like computers and robotics, I'm going to make the bold statement that if the economic structure remains the same, there will never again be a correlation between job and population growth. To claim something is normal and natural is absolutely meaningless, because thats not how it currently is. It doesn't matter how it was in the 1950s it's not currently that way.
As far as "third world and first world are continuing to add more people to their population", well, the first world just isn't. Most (all?) first world countries have shrinking native populations, and if they are growing they are only doing so through immigration from the developing world. Japan is facing a real population crises because they're not big on immigration
There is no population crisis. The excess people just aren't needed. There are more people in the world than jobs, and as a result there is no economic incentive to have offspring. The smartest individuals in the first world countries have figured this out. I've figured this out and many others have also, it's not in your economic self interest to have offspring in this environment because they'll be guaranteed to have it worse than you did.
If third world populations are growing that's a good thing: if you're sufficiently poor, you have as many children as you possibly can in the hopes that a couple of them to survive to take care of you in your old age. If more of those children live and your total population grows, that's a god thing from any reasonable moral perspective.
Thats flawed thinking in itself. If you are poor, having lots of kids will make it so you wont live to see old age due to the stress of keeping all those kids alive. It's a survival strategy that does not benefit the parents or the children, so it's really a very pointless strategy. The offspring will suffer, the parents will suffer, but the parents are thinking at least they wont have to suffer alone. Misery loves company and thats how I see it, I see no advantage to having a lot of kids while in poverty in a bad economy because theres almost no possibility that you'll make yourself anything but poorer in the end.
An Executive agreement still requires majority support from both Houses to be implemented. But since the DMCA was passed with unanimous support in the Senate and with little to no opposition in the House there is no chance in hell that ACTA is going to face any real opposition from Congress.
That should tell you that the Democrat party is really the Hollywood party.
The reason those ACTA people have to act in secret is because they don't represent any of us. This is like the oil cartel, and we see what kind of problem big oil has caused once we let them take complete control over energy.
When you let people make law in secret without debate, but they want to tax you and force you to follow laws which aren't debated, isn't that a dictatorship?
In general most of the leaks are probably not stuff which influences the common man, but ACTA influences the common man in ways which hurt the common man to help the elite man. This is purely economic, there is nothing political or moral about ACTA.
So if you aren't set to profit from the royalties associated with ACTA, it's not in your interest and you have no reason to support it.
I ask the secretive ACTA people, what does ACTA do for me? What does it do for the consumer, and for the independent artist?
In many US states including IL it is illegal to record conversations without consent of both parties. AFAICT this includes both phone and in-person.
A while back I had the idea that it would be fun to do undercover exposes on scam companies, by getting employed and gathering hidden camera/audio footage. Unfortunately I think there would be legal problems here.
This allows them to spy on you, but you can't spy on them.
One party of a conversation should know it, but it is perfectly reasonable for a participant in a conversation to record it. Recording evidence of crime comes to mind as an example, such as being threatened via telephone.
If we can record chat IMs, why can't we record all communications?
There is no opposition because the only thing the Italian opposition could agree on in the latest years was hating the prime minister.
On the other hand, for citizens who think than Italy should be reformed in a libertarian way (lower taxes, which are currently unbelievably high; more decentralized responsibilities; more modern and flexible labour market; and so on) there is no alternative to voting for Berlusconi, given that his opposition is mostly left-wing and they are still the same men that grew in the Italian Communist Party before 1990.
The US Government prefers Berlusconi so Italy has Berlusconi.
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You know how much that would cost and how many people would be involved? Assassinations that involve 100's or even 1000's of highly paid and prominent biochemists, genetic engineers and lab techs are not going to be secret for long. Brain meet bullet/arrow/rock is a tried and true method for killing someone quietly for a reason.
How hard is it to keep secret if each one of those scientists are threatened with death? They may even have specific viruses for specific races and family trees. There is no thing to stop our government or other governments form targeting specific families.
This didn't start with Obama either. This is ingrained in our society, and accepted by many in the name of national security. That's a very grave mistake. Books like "The Federal Mafia" have been banned, and New York Times reporters have been silenced by being thrown in jail. It is very troubling that this trend continues, and everyone should be protesting it.
Even if the feds are a mafia, they are a legal mafia.
Well, he IS free to talk about it.
Just not on the venue which got seized.
For reasons we don't know, but if we had an interest in the property, then we could inquire through the courts about it.
He can talk about it from behind a jailcell.
Lets just hope for the best as that's all we can really do.
That's the American, can-do, revolutionary spirit of our founding fathers! In fact, I think that's written somewhere in the Declaration of Independence. "When in the Course of human events it becomes necessary for one people to dissolve the political bands which have connected them with another and to assume among the powers of the earth, the separate and equal station to which the Laws of Nature and of Nature's God entitle them, just hope for the best, as that's all we can really do."
Have a revolution or don't. Don't pretend there's nothing you can do.
They tried revolution in the 60s. Look at the results.
Don't forget that they can assassinate.
http://www.salon.com/news/opinion/glenn_greenwald/2010/04/07/assassinations
Lol, if they have a lethal virus and they release it and cause an epidemic they are going to be found out pretty quickly. There are at least 10,000 labs in the US alone that could check the genes in a virus or bacteria. A bullet and being thrown into a blast furnace works much better.
Also found out by whom? Who is supposed to do anything to find anything out when the government does it? If the government does it then it's legal and theres nothing to find out. That means there would be no investigation.
Even if the virus tactic doesn't work they could just hang someone with a noose and claim they committed suicide.
Lol, if they have a lethal virus and they release it and cause an epidemic they are going to be found out pretty quickly. There are at least 10,000 labs in the US alone that could check the genes in a virus or bacteria. A bullet and being thrown into a blast furnace works much better.
Not if the virus is specifically designed to target the immune system of the person they want to kill. You forget that viruses can be harmless when they infect one person with a type of DNA, but completely destroy the immune system of another person with different DNA. When you consider that the government knows which method of attack is likely to kill the different people, you can see that even an ordinary flu can be deadly if it infects the right person at the right time.
This happened about a week ago. The owner of the single server (that's right, it was all on one single server, with no backups) posted to WebHostingTalk.com to complain because BurstNet wouldn't violate the government's order to keep quiet.
The authorities ordered BurstNet to take the server offline for what appeared to be very, very serious violations. Based on BurstNet's demeanor and seriousness when asked about the issue, it could be anything from national security to child porn. BurstNet also appears to have been hit with a gag order, as they've only made one (perhaps two) public comments on the situation, and absolutely refuse to make any more announcements.
Don't take my word for it - read up on the situation at the original WHT thread (which is now closed).
If it's national security and they fight back they could get killed, or snatched up and beaten/waterboarded. Or they could just be arrested without charge and put in prison.
So nobody is going to mess with the government. The best and only option in this situation is to keep your mouth shut, call your lawyer, and hope that it can be sorted out within the legal system.
Free speech is a myth.
Human rights is a dream.
Freedom isn't real.
The meaning of these three sentences is very simple. Every human on planet earth must submit to the authority of Uncle Sam or they shall be punished with jail or death.
Fortunately the US government has not decided on mass assassinations, but the authority exists under the law to make every living person submit under the threat of death.
http://www.salon.com/news/opinion/glenn_greenwald/2010/04/07/assassinations
This means it's no longer an option to disobey the US government. If you disobey then you'll go to jail. If you disobey in the wrong way, you may be declared a terrorist and then you go to jail and get tortured in jail. If you fight by with physical force you can be declared as an enemy combatant and then you can get assassinated.
All of the evidence against you can be kept secret. The fact that you were assassinated and didn't die in a freak accident can be kept secret. The game is submit or go to jail. And sometimes even if you submit you still go to jail if you piss too many people off.
Why would they have to kill someone in a raid when they can kill someone with the flu, or with something which will look like natural causes? You underestimate the abilities of the government. They have biological weapons, this means viruses of all sorts which can kill in all kinds of ways without a trace or shred of evidence so that it's completely deniable. The same legal authority which allows the government to conduct raids and trample free speech is the legal authority which allows them to assassinate American citizens. It's the law that if you are considered to be a terrorist, it's open season on you.
Once the government declares you fair game, they'll put the green light on you and whoever takes you out will become a millionaire. Fortunately it's still expensive for them to do this so they don't have the ability to kill millions of people, but it should be common knowledge that the US government has the power to assassinate American citizens.
The proof is here:
http://swampland.blogs.time.com/2010/04/07/can-the-u-s-government-assassinate-u-s-citizens-based-on-secret-evidence/
http://www.salon.com/news/opinion/glenn_greenwald/2010/04/07/assassinations
You, and others like you, have no alternative. You can submit to the authority of the US government or you can be assassinated in a way which looks like natural causes by secret agents who have the legal authority to assassinate terrorists.
What this means is there is no option to rebel. There is no option to protest beyond mere words, and even words can get you put in jail in this environment.
Anytime you hear stories from anonymous government sources and anonymous agents, it's bullshit. Anybody who really works for the government and who really has something to say, will be able to say it on the record or provide authentic documents to back up what they are saying.
Otherwise it's as simple as someone wearing a suit and tie with a fake badge telling people they work for the government. Anybody can say this, anybody can talk like this, I see it on Alex Jones all the time. Thats when they call it a conspiracy theory, and I'm calling it a conspiracy theory in this instance.
If you are a civilian, you have one of two options. You can either submit, or you can go to jail. That is the game. The owners who made the rules designed it so that you only have two options. It does not matter whether or not you are an information producer or information consumer, if you are a producer you have to submit to being pimped and treated like their property. You are going to be forced to whore yourself out to the highest bidder. If you are a consumer you'll have to submit to some of the most draconian anti consumer laws on the planet.
Just like in the 60s, those who don't submit will go up against Cointel Pro. You want to start a militia? You want to rebel? Not going to be an option. The only option is to submit or go to jail. Choose your option wisely because they can always change the game later to submit or die.
They who want the power, the profits, the control over all information and intellectual property, will do anything to get it. It's a war for information control. It's a war you as a civilian cannot win. It does not matter if you are a civilian artist (you'll get pimped by the system), it does not matter if you are a civilian consumer (you'll be forced into submission or jail.)
The rules to this game are simple. Submit or jail.
You can blame it on culture. You can blame it on trends. It's really as simple as the people who have the power will do anything to keep the power. They will make as many laws as they have to, they will trample as many civil liberties as they have to, because they function as a mafia.
You are either with them or against them. Submit or go to jail.
Just like in China, if you don't submit to the government you shall be punished.
Nothing. You will do nothing about it because you can't do anything about it.
Submit to Uncle Sam or go to jail.
Job exist because people exist who need things. Population growth immediately implies job growth.
Plenty of people in the third world need a lot of things. Why aren't there plenty of jobs? Oh thats right, the global economy isn't at all a fair or free market. The winners and losers are decided in advance for political reasons. So population growth has absolutely nothing to do with job growth as we see. We can see in the USA that population growth has no correlation with job growth and it's not implied, it's a fact.
You seem to believe that people don't have money to spend unless the government gives them money. That's a stunningly wrong idea. People have money because people start businesses to serve the needs of those people whi need things.
My naive brother where are they supposed to get the free money to live on to make it from one day to the next? Where are they supposed to get the money to start businesses? Where is the free money supposed to come from to fuel all that? It simply does not exist. The private banks don't lend to people who arent already rich with good credit. The government doesn't have the money to lend to anyone because it spent the money bailing out the banks. So theres no money to start businesses with and all the government can do is pay to keep people alive.
As long as the government doens't raise too many barriers to doing that (through central planning, regulatory capture, or just plain making it illegal for anyone but their friends to be in some business) job growth is the natural and normal result of population growth.
You offer no evidence proving correlation between population growth and job growth. In fact that hasn't been the case since the 1970s according to the facts. With technology like computers and robotics, I'm going to make the bold statement that if the economic structure remains the same, there will never again be a correlation between job and population growth. To claim something is normal and natural is absolutely meaningless, because thats not how it currently is. It doesn't matter how it was in the 1950s it's not currently that way.
As far as "third world and first world are continuing to add more people to their population", well, the first world just isn't. Most (all?) first world countries have shrinking native populations, and if they are growing they are only doing so through immigration from the developing world. Japan is facing a real population crises because they're not big on immigration
There is no population crisis. The excess people just aren't needed. There are more people in the world than jobs, and as a result there is no economic incentive to have offspring. The smartest individuals in the first world countries have figured this out. I've figured this out and many others have also, it's not in your economic self interest to have offspring in this environment because they'll be guaranteed to have it worse than you did.
If third world populations are growing that's a good thing: if you're sufficiently poor, you have as many children as you possibly can in the hopes that a couple of them to survive to take care of you in your old age. If more of those children live and your total population grows, that's a god thing from any reasonable moral perspective.
Thats flawed thinking in itself. If you are poor, having lots of kids will make it so you wont live to see old age due to the stress of keeping all those kids alive. It's a survival strategy that does not benefit the parents or the children, so it's really a very pointless strategy. The offspring will suffer, the parents will suffer, but the parents are thinking at least they wont have to suffer alone. Misery loves company and thats how I see it, I see no advantage to having a lot of kids while in poverty in a bad economy because theres almost no possibility that you'll make yourself anything but poorer in the end.
An Executive agreement still requires majority support from both Houses to be implemented. But since the DMCA was passed with unanimous support in the Senate and with little to no opposition in the House there is no chance in hell that ACTA is going to face any real opposition from Congress.
That should tell you that the Democrat party is really the Hollywood party.
The reason those ACTA people have to act in secret is because they don't represent any of us. This is like the oil cartel, and we see what kind of problem big oil has caused once we let them take complete control over energy.
When you let people make law in secret without debate, but they want to tax you and force you to follow laws which aren't debated, isn't that a dictatorship?
In general most of the leaks are probably not stuff which influences the common man, but ACTA influences the common man in ways which hurt the common man to help the elite man. This is purely economic, there is nothing political or moral about ACTA.
So if you aren't set to profit from the royalties associated with ACTA, it's not in your interest and you have no reason to support it.
I ask the secretive ACTA people, what does ACTA do for me? What does it do for the consumer, and for the independent artist?
In many US states including IL it is illegal to record conversations without consent of both parties. AFAICT this includes both phone and in-person.
A while back I had the idea that it would be fun to do undercover exposes on scam companies, by getting employed and gathering hidden camera/audio footage. Unfortunately I think there would be legal problems here.
This allows them to spy on you, but you can't spy on them.
It's safe to say, free speech is dead. There is no press freedom. Perhaps it has never existed.
The only way you have press freedom is if you have an army protecting your journalists.
One party of a conversation should know it, but it is perfectly reasonable for a participant in a conversation to record it.
Recording evidence of crime comes to mind as an example, such as being threatened via telephone.
If we can record chat IMs, why can't we record all communications?
There is no opposition because the only thing the Italian opposition could agree on in the latest years was hating the prime minister.
On the other hand, for citizens who think than Italy should be reformed in a libertarian way (lower taxes, which are currently unbelievably high; more decentralized responsibilities; more modern and flexible labour market; and so on) there is no alternative to voting for Berlusconi, given that his opposition is mostly left-wing and they are still the same men that grew in the Italian Communist Party before 1990.
The US Government prefers Berlusconi so Italy has Berlusconi.