Whether or not it is copyrighted is NOT enough to say it can't be shared, and whether or not you have permission to share the works. I say this as indie musicians copyright their works (to prevent real ripping off) and share the work freely.
You can't download the songs they put on their MySpace page (yeah, I tried the various hacks to get them).
Did you try using Wave_Out_Mix or Mono_Mix recording settings in audacity, and recording whilst the music is streaming?
Easy way to circumvent audio DRM.
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Here is an easy way to circumvent audio DRM: Wave_out_mix or mono_mix (whatever you have as an option) in the program Audacity and hit record. So much for DRM. ^_^
A guy (or his son) is downloading music and is not paying for it.
Given how there is legally downloadable/sharable content that is copyrighted, I will say that payment in this case has nothing to do with it rather that they were distributing/downloading music that was shared without the permission of the copyright holder, that is the RIAA. POermission or lack of is what breaks or makes copyright infringement, IIRC. Yes I do agree that the boy broke the law doing this but draconian is not the answer.
This is the only thing to do to stop the thefts..
Woah there, we are talking about copyright infrignement here. Still illegal, but I though people at/. and Digg knew better than to change the law they are talking about mid-thought. ^_^
So what if the tabs are from copyrighted music? What does that have to do with anything? Isn't it the tabs and not the music they are derived from that we are talking about here? And you like so many people make the "copyrighted = infringing" fallacy where you assume everything copyrighted is illegal to distribute when it really is copyrighted works you don't have permission to share is illegal. This may or may not be the case here, but the distinction is still important.
Well, unfortunately, "I had to check a box on that splash screen saying that I would not upload copyrighted materials to other people..." that is not, IIRC completely enforcable since there are copyrighted works that can./are legally shared - you just have to look. They can not apply such a blanket statement when there are factors that make it un-enforcable.
Look at the word entice, it's critical in my original post. DDR isn't a way of enticing people to get fit, it's a gimmick based on a current fad that's going to go away as all fads do.
"DDR isn't a way of enticing people to get fit" is absolutely true, as DDR is a game, has been since 1998, but the purposes change; more and more people are using DDR as part of a fitness routine - Middle and High schools/even colleges are getting the game incorporated in gym classes, DDR is even finding the way into fitness clubs and gyms across the country, so no it was not intended to entice people to work out/hget fit/whatever, but now it is and Konami is jumping on it appropriately. Fads do go away, I grant you that, but at the same time DDR has spawned more and more games of it's type (PumP, In the Groove, ParaParaParadise, TechnoMotion, Flow: Urban Uprising, etc), and this will keep a new genre afloat, if lucky - kinda like fighting games have. This is a unique kind of fad unlike the other fads, of which it would be unfair to completely lump DDR/ITG/PumP with, and may leave it's mark for a very long time in some form.
I'm probably missing something, but how exactly is a computer game that forces people to jump around to play going to entice people to become fitter?
Watch somebody playing heavy mode doubles sometime... not easy songs like BREAK DOWN!, Candy, Long Train Runnin' or some of the slow and crappy songs, I mean MAX. (Period), MAX 300, PARANOiA Survivor MAX (on Oni diffuculty), stuff like that. The stamina required, the twisting, running, jumping... how anybody would not see even remote exercise in this really needs new glasses.
Then again, IF you hate DDR, don't hate it just because you faild Butterfly beginner. ^_^
Using the free Stepmania and what..completely original songs?
The songs included with any of the games are all 'protected'. Schools would rather pay $500 per piece of software than have something that might not be completely legal.
Stepmania itself comes with nothing but the program, and the default skin, you have to download all the DDR/ITG/PumP songs, themes, and characters separately keeping them out of that legal trouble for the most part. And yes, there are original songs. BEMANISTYLE.COM is a good place. ^_^
Yay to Cobalt Flux, nay to RedOctane - I lost trust in them after DDRFREAK members revealed (with photographic proof) that they use rusty metal.
BTW, How is the MyMyBox SOLOMODE 2200 pad? I am getting it tomorrow and if it is the kind of pad that needs modding to be any good I would like to know, preferably what modding is needed. ^_^
The bogus logic is in this post. I guess UPS would be more productive and profitable if they could steal all their trucks and planes rather paying for them...
Hold on cowboy, you can't claim bogus logic and make an equally bogus poinnt! Stealing trucks and copying software have various differences legally, logically, hough only through the individual moral view could you see them as exact equals, IMO.
Yes it is. You're using the software, and you didn't pay for it.
So... I borrowed a CD and was listening to the music for a while, what's your point? When I returned it I went and bought the CD. Doing something without paying for the legal right to do it is not enough to constitute your point, as you could be using it and go out and buy it for whatever reason, then again maybe you won't, but then again, you aren't psychic, so stop acting like one!
If you wouldn't have bought it, then you shouldn't have stolen it. If someone shoplifts, do you say. It's ok, he wouldn't have paid for it anyway?
And you sure have just lost.
First of all, he did not steal, he has comitted an act of priacy and/OR copyright infringement which technically speaking is much different in both act, and result, and legal recognition, which makes your choplifting analogy shit. Do I need to spell it out for you>?
SHOPLIFTING vs COPYING
Direct loss of goods VS No loss of goods
Direct loss of potential profit VS unconclusive, guessed, or nonexistant "loss" of potential income.
A small fine, "slap on the wrist" VS asinine, draconian fines and/or jailtime
If you are talking morally though, you can believe that they are the same, but trust me when I say this: Nobody wants morals forced on them - don't act as if you are god, your view is the only right one, and you will be fine.
Theft is wrong. Period. He shouldn't try to justify his copy of Photoshop and stolen MP3's with a line like that.
Yes theft is wrong, but this is not theft, but piracy/copyright infringement. If you can't use proper legal terms in a discussion about legalities, then I would you reccomend you do so before the uppitys (besides me) jump on you.
You are such an "absolute copyrights no reasonable exception"/RIAA/MPAA tool. Your false generalizing about/. posters, most of which isn't close to what was posted by the majority on this thread just proves it.
1.) It's wrong for the MPAA to dare sue or do anything at all to prevent rampant unauthorized copying of its materials, even though it owns the copyrights to all of them.
First, I am assuming that you mean any illegal copying right? Since unauthorized != illegal all of the time, otherwise we wouldn't have fair use. Yes they should do what is in their power to stop illegal (not nessecarily unauthorized) copying of THEIR work, but not the way they are doing so now - that means no suing dead people, or people without computers, suing netwroks or aksing them to do asinine and/or impossible things, and most important of all, cut the emotional bullshit!
It's perfectly okay for torrent piracy groups to sue the MPAA, because it's funny and ironic! Ha ha! Take that, MPAA!
First, Torrentspy is not a piracy group, or one that encourages piracy, TorrentSpy is just a SEARCH ENGINE! Certainly I don't think that serch engines should be illegal, do you? Second, that is a legitimate view to laugh for the itronic twist of fate, at least I feel so, so back off. ^_^ I won't deal with the rest since it is nothing but RIAA fud (Copyright infringement is COPYRIGHT INFRINGEMENT. NOTHING ELSE! Not rape, larceny, arson, murder, and most importantly, not theft! GET IT RIGHT!), and generalizations pulled up the wazoo.
Of course - Konami is thinking of releasing DDR SuperNova to Europe, which they've hinted that they'll put some 300+ songs into, but I think it's too late for them now. They screwed up pretty big, which made a lot of people move to ITG.
Thinking? Well, now it is a U.S, and Europe release, so there is no need to fret. The short songlist means that odds are, btw, you played a BETA version. Don't worry, the full version will be as spectacular as they say. ^_^
I love DDR, and In the Groove (*pulls gun away from Konami exec*), butthink that a TV show has to be done just right. If it promotes playing the game then the serries could make the game a lot more popular, but overkill and it will not be allowed to grow into a genre and die like Pokemon did, with every other spawn just as bad as the next (unlike DDR spawning RoXor's AWSOME In the Groove 1/2/upcoming 3). I look foward to watching this, but hope they do it right.
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Whether or not it is copyrighted is NOT enough to say it can't be shared, and whether or not you have permission to share the works. I say this as indie musicians copyright their works (to prevent real ripping off) and share the work freely.
Did you try using Wave_Out_Mix or Mono_Mix recording settings in audacity, and recording whilst the music is streaming?
Here is an easy way to circumvent audio DRM: Wave_out_mix or mono_mix (whatever you have as an option) in the program Audacity and hit record. So much for DRM. ^_^
Well, not clear cut. I thik the problem is the survey's apparent generalization on ALL cd copying.
Given how there is legally downloadable/sharable content that is copyrighted, I will say that payment in this case has nothing to do with it rather that they were distributing/downloading music that was shared without the permission of the copyright holder, that is the RIAA. POermission or lack of is what breaks or makes copyright infringement, IIRC. Yes I do agree that the boy broke the law doing this but draconian is not the answer.
Woah there, we are talking about copyright infrignement here. Still illegal, but I though people at /. and Digg knew better than to change the law they are talking about mid-thought. ^_^
It was shut down by an organization using copyright law and the DMCA. ^_^
So what if the tabs are from copyrighted music? What does that have to do with anything? Isn't it the tabs and not the music they are derived from that we are talking about here? And you like so many people make the "copyrighted = infringing" fallacy where you assume everything copyrighted is illegal to distribute when it really is copyrighted works you don't have permission to share is illegal. This may or may not be the case here, but the distinction is still important.
Well, unfortunately, "I had to check a box on that splash screen saying that I would not upload copyrighted materials to other people..." that is not, IIRC completely enforcable since there are copyrighted works that can./are legally shared - you just have to look. They can not apply such a blanket statement when there are factors that make it un-enforcable.
No, real slashdotters go to or work at a computer camp... like I am right now. ^_^
Here is the DDRFREAK.com topic (with pictures): http://www.ddrfreak.com/phpBB2/viewtopic.php?t=116 708 . Click the pictures to see them enlarged.
Don't dis the game just because you failed Butterfly Beginner ^_^ J/k.
"DDR isn't a way of enticing people to get fit" is absolutely true, as DDR is a game, has been since 1998, but the purposes change; more and more people are using DDR as part of a fitness routine - Middle and High schools/even colleges are getting the game incorporated in gym classes, DDR is even finding the way into fitness clubs and gyms across the country, so no it was not intended to entice people to work out/hget fit/whatever, but now it is and Konami is jumping on it appropriately. Fads do go away, I grant you that, but at the same time DDR has spawned more and more games of it's type (PumP, In the Groove, ParaParaParadise, TechnoMotion, Flow: Urban Uprising, etc), and this will keep a new genre afloat, if lucky - kinda like fighting games have. This is a unique kind of fad unlike the other fads, of which it would be unfair to completely lump DDR/ITG/PumP with, and may leave it's mark for a very long time in some form.
Watch somebody playing heavy mode doubles sometime... not easy songs like BREAK DOWN!, Candy, Long Train Runnin' or some of the slow and crappy songs, I mean MAX. (Period), MAX 300, PARANOiA Survivor MAX (on Oni diffuculty), stuff like that. The stamina required, the twisting, running, jumping... how anybody would not see even remote exercise in this really needs new glasses.
Then again, IF you hate DDR, don't hate it just because you faild Butterfly beginner. ^_^
Stepmania itself comes with nothing but the program, and the default skin, you have to download all the DDR/ITG/PumP songs, themes, and characters separately keeping them out of that legal trouble for the most part. And yes, there are original songs. BEMANISTYLE.COM is a good place. ^_^
Yay to Cobalt Flux, nay to RedOctane - I lost trust in them after DDRFREAK members revealed (with photographic proof) that they use rusty metal.
BTW, How is the MyMyBox SOLOMODE 2200 pad? I am getting it tomorrow and if it is the kind of pad that needs modding to be any good I would like to know, preferably what modding is needed. ^_^
Hold on cowboy, you can't claim bogus logic and make an equally bogus poinnt! Stealing trucks and copying software have various differences legally, logically, hough only through the individual moral view could you see them as exact equals, IMO.
So... I borrowed a CD and was listening to the music for a while, what's your point? When I returned it I went and bought the CD. Doing something without paying for the legal right to do it is not enough to constitute your point, as you could be using it and go out and buy it for whatever reason, then again maybe you won't, but then again, you aren't psychic, so stop acting like one!
And you sure have just lost.
First of all, he did not steal, he has comitted an act of priacy and/OR copyright infringement which technically speaking is much different in both act, and result, and legal recognition, which makes your choplifting analogy shit. Do I need to spell it out for you>?
SHOPLIFTING vs COPYING
Direct loss of goods VS No loss of goods
Direct loss of potential profit VS unconclusive, guessed, or nonexistant "loss" of potential income.
A small fine, "slap on the wrist" VS asinine, draconian fines and/or jailtime
If you are talking morally though, you can believe that they are the same, but trust me when I say this: Nobody wants morals forced on them - don't act as if you are god, your view is the only right one, and you will be fine.
That should read, "you insensitive clod!"
Yes theft is wrong, but this is not theft, but piracy/copyright infringement. If you can't use proper legal terms in a discussion about legalities, then I would you reccomend you do so before the uppitys (besides me) jump on you.
*ENTERS OBLIGATORY "You sensative clod!" LINE*
MMM.... I deidn't know you, or the RIAA, MPAA, or BSA became psychics. ^_^ Judging by their acts, they must be pretty lousy.
You are such an "absolute copyrights no reasonable exception"/RIAA/MPAA tool. Your false generalizing about /. posters, most of which isn't close to what was posted by the majority on this thread just proves it.
First, I am assuming that you mean any illegal copying right? Since unauthorized != illegal all of the time, otherwise we wouldn't have fair use. Yes they should do what is in their power to stop illegal (not nessecarily unauthorized) copying of THEIR work, but not the way they are doing so now - that means no suing dead people, or people without computers, suing netwroks or aksing them to do asinine and/or impossible things, and most important of all, cut the emotional bullshit!
First, Torrentspy is not a piracy group, or one that encourages piracy, TorrentSpy is just a SEARCH ENGINE! Certainly I don't think that serch engines should be illegal, do you? Second, that is a legitimate view to laugh for the itronic twist of fate, at least I feel so, so back off. ^_^ I won't deal with the rest since it is nothing but RIAA fud (Copyright infringement is COPYRIGHT INFRINGEMENT. NOTHING ELSE! Not rape, larceny, arson, murder, and most importantly, not theft! GET IT RIGHT!), and generalizations pulled up the wazoo.
Thinking? Well, now it is a U.S, and Europe release, so there is no need to fret. The short songlist means that odds are, btw, you played a BETA version. Don't worry, the full version will be as spectacular as they say. ^_^
Yeah maybe that wasn't the best way to put it. :-\ Still, I hope DDR spawns a genre that succeeds for a long long time either way.
I love DDR, and In the Groove (*pulls gun away from Konami exec*), butthink that a TV show has to be done just right. If it promotes playing the game then the serries could make the game a lot more popular, but overkill and it will not be allowed to grow into a genre and die like Pokemon did, with every other spawn just as bad as the next (unlike DDR spawning RoXor's AWSOME In the Groove 1/2/upcoming 3). I look foward to watching this, but hope they do it right.
Funny way to point out my typos, I needed that after the day I had. ^_^