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Dance Dance Revolution Spawns TV Show

lfescalante writes to mention a unique synergistic melding of television and gaming: A Dance Dance Revolution TV show. From the article: "Dance Revolution, said all parties involved, is a live-action television series based on Konami's extremely popular video game franchise Dance Dance Revolution. Notes published by DIC and Konami describe this series as one in which 'tweens' and teens bring their freshest moves to this sensational new dance competition where teams of dancers display their innovative routines."

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  1. How about audience participation? by Metaphorically · · Score: 4, Interesting

    The audience can watch and jump around too, that's a nice first step. The really cool part would be to get some feedback (via Eyetoy and an internet connection). Then the viewers can judge player's performances or the judges on the show could judge players at home... or something like that. The technology's all there, just waiting for the ideas to catch up.

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  2. Saturday Morning... by jollyroger1210 · · Score: 4, Funny

    Morning?? Now I KNOW I'm not going to watch it. Who gets up in the morning?

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    1. Re:Saturday Morning... by rzebram · · Score: 1, Funny

      There is no such thing as "Saturday morning," it's just a lie that parents tell their children to scare them. Sort of like the fabled 5 AM.

    2. Re:Saturday Morning... by Scigirl451 · · Score: 1

      Actually, I'm thankful it is slated for Saturday mornings. That's one less reason for my students to be late during the school week...

  3. Bad Idea by the+linux+geek · · Score: 2, Informative

    TV shows need a certain amount of plot. This has none. Same goes for American Idol and other scum.

    Of course, this may be "sour grapes" because I suck at DDR.

    1. Re:Bad Idea by 4D6963 · · Score: 2, Insightful
      TV shows need a certain amount of plot. This has none. Same goes for American Idol and other scum.

      Didn't your last statement demonstrate that you don't need a certain amount of plot for a TV show to be successful? (because American Idol is successful, you can't say it's not)

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    2. Re:Bad Idea by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

      I know what you mean.

      Your typical football game? The plot is paper thin, and the characters are all so one-dimensional.

      The news? Totally predictable, and the characters are all idiots. Furthermore, the use of metaphor is too heavy-handed.

      Don't even get me started on the lame plot in talk shows.

    3. Re:Bad Idea by Jerf · · Score: 1

      American Idol has the oldest plot in the book: X defeats Y.

      In fact there have been a lot of otherwise plotless shows lately that take the "audience votes someone off every week" or "remaining players vote someone off every week" approach to manufactoring tension. It can be very powerful; shows otherwise completely uninteresting can at least borrow some sort of tension from it, like those "Who Will Be The Next Host Of Show X?" contests.

    4. Re:Bad Idea by DerekLyons · · Score: 1
      TV shows need a certain amount of plot. This has none. Same goes for American Idol and other scum.
      I guess you are too young to remember prime time game and variety shows. (Or 'American Bandstand' or 'Soul Train'.)

      All sucesses, none having a plot.

  4. me too me too by 16punches · · Score: 1

    Sounds like a cross between Dance Fever and Big Top Talent. I hope it's not limited to just teens and 'tweens though. I like watching the old people play. They're funny.

  5. Tweens by Trouvist · · Score: 1, Offtopic

    What the hell are "'tweens"?

    1. Re:Tweens by Short+Circuit · · Score: 2, Informative

      Ages 10-12.

    2. Re:Tweens by 16punches · · Score: 2, Insightful

      tweens = in between being a little kid and a teenager, i.e. big enough to not hold hands crossing the road, but too little to go anywhere anyway. This leaves lots of time to creat cool DDR routines with your friends for television shows.

    3. Re:Tweens by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0
      Let's start a horrible new Slashdot in-joke, with the obligitory Dinosaur Comics link!

      Oh man I hate that word "obligitory"!

    4. Re:Tweens by Stargoose · · Score: 1

      I agree that it's overused to the point of having lost all humor, just like most jokes people make in these comments. On the other hand, maybe you'd hate the correct spelling of "obligatory" less.

  6. Nice idea. by Andrew+Kismet · · Score: 2, Funny

    They're getting desperate, reality TV shows, but this takes the biscuit. Still, DDR is vaguely cool.

    ((I feel like such a hypocrit, I own a damn metal Dance Pad and almost all the games >_>))

    1. Re:Nice idea. by the+dark+hero · · Score: 1
      Still, DDR is vaguely cool.

      what? are you kidding me? i play DDR, but i have no misconceptions about it being cool at all. is it hella fun? you better believe it! DDR very rarely translates to a good watching experience.

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  7. Watching TV != DDR's Goal? by jkeyes · · Score: 4, Insightful

    I thought DDR was about getting up, moving and maybe getting some exercise and not sit around watching TV. So by making a TV show about getting up and moving isn't that somewhat counterproductive to DDR's intent? I mean I know it's only 1 30 minute show and they're probably watching TV anyway but still it's like those informericials (which is what I'm expecting this to be) for exercise equipment I mean if you're up at 2 AM watching it I really really doubt that $250 ab sharpener, butt tightener and tanner in 1 is going to help.

    1. Re:Watching TV != DDR's Goal? by SanityInAnarchy · · Score: 1

      Tell that to the Verb Now people.

      Arguably, they've made some very cool ads lately...

      Still, aside from the actual metal pad that I own, the most effective strategy to get people off their ass is Grandpa Freeman

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    2. Re:Watching TV != DDR's Goal? by darthgnu · · Score: 2, Insightful

      Nah, this is just another show to get people to feel bad about themselves. TV these days is just about watching people that have more money/talent/life than whoever is watching. I'm just glad I missed the whole "OMG 1TS REAL TV" bandwagon. Meanwhile, i'll just stick to my MythTV box dedicated to SF and other non-"reality" shows.

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    3. Re:Watching TV != DDR's Goal? by Geneus · · Score: 2, Interesting

      DDR is not about getting up, its about making money. And if they can make money with a TV show then who cares if you move or not.

    4. Re:Watching TV != DDR's Goal? by WhatAmIDoingHere · · Score: 1

      What is this Verb Now thing?

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    5. Re:Watching TV != DDR's Goal? by jellomizer · · Score: 1

      I think it is a public service announcement to tell people with poor spelling and grammar (like myself) to show them what a verb is and what it is used for in language.

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    6. Re:Watching TV != DDR's Goal? by WhatAmIDoingHere · · Score: 1

      That's probably the dumbest idea I've ever heard. Where do I sign up?

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  8. Is it called.. by springbox · · Score: 3, Funny
    1. Re:Is it called.. by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

      Can't be, that looks like a 2nd season show, nor does it mention anything about DDR.

  9. Huh ? by darthgnu · · Score: 1

    Aren't they stretching their luck just a bit too far ?

    Honestly, don't kid have enough "needs" already ?

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  10. Caution = success by Travelsonic · · Score: 2, Insightful

    I love DDR, and In the Groove (*pulls gun away from Konami exec*), butthink that a TV show has to be done just right. If it promotes playing the game then the serries could make the game a lot more popular, but overkill and it will not be allowed to grow into a genre and die like Pokemon did, with every other spawn just as bad as the next (unlike DDR spawning RoXor's AWSOME In the Groove 1/2/upcoming 3). I look foward to watching this, but hope they do it right.

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    1. Re:Caution = success by Ailure · · Score: 1

      Pokémon died? True, it might not be as popular as before, but I hardly call it's fandom and popularity dead. :/

      Unless your defination of die is "getting less popular after being very popular" which is... kind of true for most things out there.

    2. Re:Caution = success by Travelsonic · · Score: 1

      Yeah maybe that wasn't the best way to put it. :-\ Still, I hope DDR spawns a genre that succeeds for a long long time either way.

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  11. As I always say... by Stormwatch · · Score: 3, Insightful

    Tee vee? What's that? Oh, you mean the screen to which we plug the game consoles?

  12. I have a saying about this game... by farrellj · · Score: 1

    DDR...Line Dancing for the Rave Generation!

    ttyl

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  13. 10K Commotion by Fex303 · · Score: 3, Interesting
    While a lot of people (myself included) think that this will have no storyline and be essentially a giant ad for merchandise, there a webcomic series based on DDR which is actually pretty good: The 10K Commotion


    Even if you don't like DDR (like me) I suggest checking it out briefly, if only for the distinctive artwork.


    PS. I am not affiliated with the comic, DDR, or the secret service. Especially not DDR.

    1. Re:10K Commotion by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

      Oh shit, another webcomic for which I must now read the archives! DAMN YOU!

    2. Re:10K Commotion by symbolic · · Score: 1

      Nice link - that artistic style is somewhat unique and very appealing (at least in my opinion).

    3. Re:10K Commotion by bateleur · · Score: 1

      And be warned - it's a good story, which isn't finished yet. The last episode has been coming out in sections at an incredibly slow pace for a variety of reasons...

  14. If this guy is on it, I'll watch... by sumbry · · Score: 4, Funny

    if this guy is on it, i'll watch.

    (anyone that can do DDR on one leg deserves my 30 mins)

    1. Re:If this guy is on it, I'll watch... by drinkypoo · · Score: 1

      I can do DDR on one leg, but you can't show that leg on TV unless it's on a pay channel.

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  15. Ever read the DDR webcomic? by bi_boy · · Score: 0

    Good. Lord. Kill. Me. Now.

    Answer to Subject: Horrible, horrible, horrible shit. Horrible. *shudders*

    And I don't mean to troll but I know the way most DDR communities works and, yeah, god, horrible, yich.

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  16. Trying to make a corpse alive. by Bega · · Score: 2, Interesting

    I think Konami is desperately trying to save the franchise they've been ignoring for too long. It all ended back in 2002, when KCEJ made the last DDR mix - DDR Extreme. After that, there wouldn't be any mixes anymore - DDR was quite effectively dead in Japan. Konami of America has been churning out some (rather mediocre) home versions of DDR. Of course, you can't really target the hardcore players at home - but when you have more machines upgraded with bootlegs to DDR Extreme than there are tru DDR US-mixes, it should probably ring a bell in your head. I think that (whether Konami wanted it or not) In The Groove will be the future in dancing games - unless Konami will get their court case through, which'll probably return us to the same stagnated situation that we had before ITG came about.

    Konami already screwed up pretty much. At least here in Europe. Our last good arcade mix came about in late 2000-2001, which was the Euromix 2. It was loosely based on DDR MAX2 (theme-wise) and song-wise there's quite a bit of DDR Extreme songs there, as well as pretty many songs spanning DDR-wise. Unlike DDR Extreme, which had 240+ songs, Euromix 2 had only 65 songs to play and a set of nonstop courses - no oni courses either.

    Then came the dawn about, when Konami announced they will be making a new arcade mix, only for Europe! It was too good to be true - we've had been playing Euromix 2 for over 3 years, with only a set of two machines in the whole country. Not only that, Konami promised (the usual) that it would be better, bigger and feature more songs. As the day of the release came, and a company that had nationwide "arcades" here bought up to the hype and bought three cabinets, came the moment of truth - sadly. The new cabinets were quite frankly put, shit. The pads were pretty much unusable, because you would have to stomp hard to the game to register anything at all - I won't go into freeze arrows. As Konami said, it would only be temporary and it would disappear after use - but it didn't, not anywhere in Europe.

    Not only were the pads bad, but the songlist as well - we got the fresh and new updated theme looks what DDR Extreme US, DDR Festival (JP) and DS Fusion bought to the home, with upgraded hardware. But the songlist? How Konami hyped it up to have a bigger songlist is beyond me, because whenever I try to make 49 songs look bigger than 65 songs, I fail, but that might just be me.

    I wonder if Konami is listening too much (well, they asked DDRUK for their suggestions to the songlist...) to the DDR community - to me, it looks like they're concentrating too much in going along with the trend that dancing games are 'hip' and 'cool', where they put alot of licensed songs, and completely forget about the people actually playing the game regularily. Following trends like that has it's obvious downsides - mainly because trends are things that pass away over time, whereas the player community will play much longer. Hell, Machine dancing is an officially registered sport in Norway, where Positive Games has annually arranged European Championship tourneys twice, with something over 50 people come from all over Europe to compete in (I must admit that I was the one who drove through Sweden and a bit of Norway all the way from Finland to get there) - so there's a lot of potential there.

    The Norwegians who are quite avid dancing game players, got tired over Konami not doing for the players who had been playing for years, made a deal with RoXoR Games in bringing In The Groove to Europe, which proved to be quite a success. Of course - Konami is thinking of releasing DDR SuperNova to Europe, which they've hinted that they'll put some 300+ songs into, but I think it's too late for them now. They screwed up pretty big, which made a lot of people move to ITG.

    Of course, people may debut about the difficulty in ITG - is it ridiculous or not - but the fact remains - people

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    1. Re:Trying to make a corpse alive. by typobox43 · · Score: 1

      I agree, Konami has fallen way behind and ITG is the premier game these days, but Konami has released SuperNova to Europe. Yes, it's already out. And yes, it really does have 300+ songs. (301 on the default songlist from what I hear.)

    2. Re:Trying to make a corpse alive. by Travelsonic · · Score: 1
      Of course - Konami is thinking of releasing DDR SuperNova to Europe, which they've hinted that they'll put some 300+ songs into, but I think it's too late for them now. They screwed up pretty big, which made a lot of people move to ITG.

      Thinking? Well, now it is a U.S, and Europe release, so there is no need to fret. The short songlist means that odds are, btw, you played a BETA version. Don't worry, the full version will be as spectacular as they say. ^_^

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    3. Re:Trying to make a corpse alive. by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

      Actually, SuperNOVA is already out in the UK and will spread to the rest of Europe, U.S., and Japan very shortly. Keep in mind that Konami is taking this whole "return to the arcades" thing and the whole game seriously, which is why they are listening to the community closely (that's why they fixed the AA = Full Combo thing after the community brought it to their attention since it pissed off folks in the first U.S. location test that wanted AA's to be determined by the number of greats received in a song). I happened to play the latest pre-release build of SuperNOVA at a location test and believe me, most if not all of it lives up to the hype and pleases the vast majority of the DDR playing populus. The only place where Konami screwed up was with the Europeans, which are not getting memory card slots (memory cards are used for things such as edit steps and saving scores earned in the arcade machine). The Americans are slated to have arcade linking features in their machines and in SuperNOVA for PS2. But as it stands now: DDR is back in the arcades with an iron fist. As long as Konami doesn't make the show too gimmicky, they should be able to get obese kids off of their couches and get them moving again.

  17. The competition by colman77 · · Score: 1

    Anyone heard of UPN's Dance 360? I bring it up because it would be this show's competition, except it was cancelled. Will this show suffer the same fate?
    Too bad... Dance 360 was absolutely hilarious.
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  18. Re:interactive broadcast network by HoshiToshi9000 · · Score: 1

    I like your thinking. Of late there seems to be more and more attempts at bringing gaming to tv. To me, this is the wrong approach. Why broadcast an interactive game on a non-interacive broadcast medium. Why cripple one medium and try to fit it in a lesser medium. Instead there should be a focus on bringing TV to gaming not the other way around. In other words, turn gaming networks into interactive broadcast networks. For example, there are millions of players on XBox live every night. If you think about it, when you are speccing a game, you are actually a viewer on an interactive broadcast network. Of course games currently are more focused on the interactive side of things, but there seems to be some movement towards exploring the broadcast aspect with things like GothamTV in PGR3. And in some interviews Gates has talked about exploring the space between TV and gaming. This will be an important theme with the latest generation of consoles and I think that you will see the online gaming networks of MS and Sony slowly morph into full fledged interactive broadcast networks complete with a wide variety of daily programming including stuff like gameshow hybrids (halo meets jeopardy), machinima (red vs blue live spec broadcast), tournament coverage etc. Some of this may sound kinda out there but I honestly think it will happen.

  19. It could work .. by Brigade · · Score: 2, Interesting

    Think about it .. it's a win/win situation.

    It IS entertaining. I've been the Head of Electronic Gaming for a local fan-run Anime convention http://www.a-kon.com/ for the last 10 years, and the DDRcade has been a part of it for the last 6. Kids will spend literally HOURS on the machines playing and practicing, and we've had tournaments for both technical skill (perfect attack, i.e. 'dancing' the songs with the fewest mistakes on the highest difficulty) and creative ability (freestyle, basically 'showing your moves' whilst still managing to clear the song at a low difficulty).

    Now this may sound like nothing big, but I'm telling you that as a judge, it's mind-boggling. I decided to become at least a bit proficent in the game when the arcade was integrated into my console gaming/PC LAN gaming umbrella, and watching these guys/girls/kids/adults do some amazing stunts was honestly entertaining .. hell we'd pack the area with 500+ people just to watch and cheer the contestants on, and in a 10k attended convention filled with people with ZERO attention span, that's a feat. They'd flip, spin, handstand, breakdance .. hell I even saw one couple tango across both pads (seen a few couples on video on the internet do this as well).

    On the other hand, interest in the game has definitely been in the decline. One of the owners of a few DDR machines also runs an arcade, and he makes as much money on the machine over the course of a year as he does in the one weekend of the convention. So this will possibly re-establish the interest in DDR .. arcade owners happy, Konami happy, TV producers happy.

  20. stepmania online... by kn0tw0rk · · Score: 1

    is what you are looking for. Get to compete/play against other people from all around the world to the same song. It doesnt have web-cam integration (yet, maybe oneday?) and most people use ventrillo (or some such) to chat whilest playing or between games. The game moderates each players scores and gives a ranking at the end.

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