We know from lots of studies and lots of data now that violent criminals very often begin their careers as nonviolent criminals.
I'd like to point out both violent and non-violent criminals start out as human beings, so if we just get DNA from all human beings, we will have it when they become violent criminals.
Our cells are packed with redundant DNA repair subroutines, and suicide subroutines to detect cancer and implode to prevent it spreading, so, like many other things in the environment, tar makes our cells mutate, and normally nothing goes wrong unless mutations happen to knock out all the redundant mechanisms in a bunch of cells at once. As said above, the chances of this happening early on in anyone's life are vanishingly small, unless their DNA is already defective. I wonder how the above poster knew that his schoolmate got cancer from smoking...
I doubt that he knows for sure. Thanks for the extra info.
I've read the operations manuals for a 747, wanna take one for a spin? I've always wanted to try flying!
Just reading the manual isn't enough in many things.
I'd love to try flying a 747! No passengers of course, it could be my last adventure, so far the biggest I've flown is a twin engine archer.
You have to come though, it was your idea. Besides, we need someone who has read the manual. I design air traffic control systems. Developers don't read manuals.
But not necessarily. I knew a kid in high school who got lung cancer from smoking. Just depends on luck of the draw...
I've read that on average smoking a cigarette causes one cell to mutate. That cell has a very low chance of becoming cancerous. From this thread, I suppose on average it takes 50 years for you to hit a mutated cell or combination of mutated that will go cancerous. But it could happen with the first cigarette. Or none at all if you live dear a Dupont factory.
I believe, like most religious people, in love, forgivness, and in making the world a better place than we found it. The difference is that I'm a Humanist; I beleive in life before death.
I'm a humanist as well. I certainly believe that man has the potential to be moral without the fear of everlasting damnation. More so even.
When you respond with vitriol simply because someone believes something different than you do, you're bascially a fundamentalist / zealot.
OK, that's your opinion. I respect that, and I respect your right to have that opinion. My opinion is that when religion forces it's beliefs into my life, that I have the right to have an opinion on that. You say that makes me a zealot, I say I have the right to question philosophies that affect my life directly. As for vitriol, this is what religion is, if you say that that is vitriol, then QED.
You just have a different denomination. A lot of religious ideals are good ones and shouldn't be rejected because of where they came from.
90% of it is crap, but that's just Sturgeon's Law. Ideals like "don't kill each other" are great. A lot of the other ideas are hilariously antiquated. We don't reject vaccines just because they came from a time when women weren't allowed to vote.
No one argues that religion doesn't support good ideals, the problem is that they support bad ones, and they tell people not to think, and have "faith" Thinking people can support good ideas and reject the bad ones without fear of persecution.
As for evolving, religions only evolve when science disproves another stupid superstitious belief. But they hang on to the stupid superstitious beliefs that science hasn't dis-proven, point at them and say Haha! What about that! Take that atheist! Or they just tell each other that science is a lie. Depends on who you talk to.
I'm not a Christian either, I've just read the bible, and I can tell you that if you cherry pick you can interpret it to mean just about anything. OTOH it says a lot of nasty things, and it most of them are far from circumspect.
If you read the bible, and I'm sure few "Christians" do, you can't help but walk away from the experience knowing that is was written by a bunch of iron age shepherds, not an omniscient God.
In my church, for example, I was told that the universe is roughly 13 billion years old, the earth is about 4.5 billion years old (give or take 6000), and natural selection happens.
How forward looking. And what did you believe before your church told you that?. Next week they'll be saying that the earth revolves around the sun.
But don't let the vast majority form your opinion of a group. Keep pointing to the extreme minority that every despises and say that is what comprises the entire group.
Does your church support freedom of choice? Do you require men who rape women to marry them and support them? How about medical experimentation? Is every sperm sacred? Every egg? Do you keep slaves? Do you think that using condoms in Africa is a larger evil than letting aids run rampant? Should Africans die for your beliefs? Are you looking forward to going to heaven where the most popular pastime is watching atheists burn in hell? Am I going to burn in hell forever? Do you tell your children that if they don't believe in God that they are going to burn in hell forever? Do you sit around at home at night hoping that Israel will nuke Iran thus starting the rapture? Do you support the holy wars? The crusades? Inquisitions? Jewish blood libel? Ireland? Religious genocides? Croatia? Palestine? Iraq? Do you eat pork? Do you wear clothing of mixed materials? Do you feel that religion should dictate the laws of civil society? Health care? contraception? Should abortion doctors be murdered? Do you support the protection of paedophiles by the church? Do you think that your mother or brother or child should be murdered if they profess another religion, as God commands? Will you go to hell for having impure thoughts? Genital mutilation, for or against? Censorship of science in schools? Is God responsible for everything science has yet to explain? Should faggots be put to death? Should they be sent to internment camps and beaten until they get their heads straight? What about atheist children? Are they evil? Are atheists evil and without morality because they do not fear the eternity of hell? Am I a sinful cretin because some naked tart bit an apple once? Would you sacrifice your first born if God commanded it?
etc. etc. etc.
You can disavow all of these things, yet by subscribing to Christianity and believing in superstitious nonsense, "faith" (belief in that for which there is no proof) you support them when you support religion.
Unlike all theist religions, I have no problem with what anyone believes, until it affects me. What I don't like is you forcing your ideals on me, and the rest of society, and then telling me I'm a bigot because I object.
Define "Good Christian" - is that the self-proclaimed or those that other proclaim to be "Good"?
No, you do it.
One of my teachers in school (a Biology teacher at that) in the US when I first moved over here wrote on a review that I am a "Good Christian Boy" - does that mean I need to be kicked out too?
/ Disclaimer- I've never been a Christian of any kind and was partially amused by the comment. (part of me was peeved that it was assumed that I was "Christian" because I was "Good".
Obviously not. But the biology teacher should be put to death immediately.
You just go on the no "fly to heaven" list. That is until you define what a "Good" Christian is. Then you will be forced to join the atheist youth, we'll get you a sexy brown uniform with an atheist symbol on the shoulder and a taser. You can set up roadblocks and arrest people with Jesus fish on their cars.
You can do whatever you want to them. We'll set up prisons, like the excellent ones they have for immigrants, where you can trade false promises for sex and generally treat Mexicans like animals.
We can make them work for pennies a day publishing atheist propaganda, and water board them when they don't act the way we want them to, because, after all, they are Christians. Not people.
Anyone that has any kind of issue with this, please pack your things and get out of the civilised world. You don't deserve to live past 30 in a heated home with running water, electrical appliances and the ability to communicate with someone more than 20 feet away.
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My thoughts exactly. Would this not fall under anthropology?
That's about as far from physics as it gets.
I'd like to point out that this makes no sense.
Who is making money from this?
An excellent first question.
We know from lots of studies and lots of data now that violent criminals very often begin their careers as nonviolent criminals.
I'd like to point out both violent and non-violent criminals start out as human beings, so if we just get DNA from all human beings, we will have it when they become violent criminals.
You discredited yourself with that clearly laughable statement.
It's a laughable statement all right. But we aren't laughing together.
Our cells are packed with redundant DNA repair subroutines, and suicide subroutines to detect cancer and implode to prevent it spreading, so, like many other things in the environment, tar makes our cells mutate, and normally nothing goes wrong unless mutations happen to knock out all the redundant mechanisms in a bunch of cells at once. As said above, the chances of this happening early on in anyone's life are vanishingly small, unless their DNA is already defective. I wonder how the above poster knew that his schoolmate got cancer from smoking...
I doubt that he knows for sure. Thanks for the extra info.
... retard. Now go play in traffic, boy, we're trying to talk science here.
Eloquently stated, your mother would be proud.
I'd rather count on Milla Jovovich.
I'm with you.
ROFL!
If it doesn't kill you, it makes you stronger. I'm not dead yet either.
I've read the operations manuals for a 747, wanna take one for a spin? I've always wanted to try flying!
Just reading the manual isn't enough in many things.
I'd love to try flying a 747! No passengers of course, it could be my last adventure, so far the biggest I've flown is a twin engine archer.
You have to come though, it was your idea. Besides, we need someone who has read the manual. I design air traffic control systems. Developers don't read manuals.
Mostly.
But not necessarily. I knew a kid in high school who got lung cancer from smoking. Just depends on luck of the draw...
I've read that on average smoking a cigarette causes one cell to mutate. That cell has a very low chance of becoming cancerous. From this thread, I suppose on average it takes 50 years for you to hit a mutated cell or combination of mutated that will go cancerous. But it could happen with the first cigarette. Or none at all if you live dear a Dupont factory.
I believe, like most religious people, in love, forgivness, and in making the world a better place than we found it. The difference is that I'm a Humanist; I beleive in life before death.
I'm a humanist as well. I certainly believe that man has the potential to be moral without the fear of everlasting damnation. More so even.
When you respond with vitriol simply because someone believes something different than you do, you're bascially a fundamentalist / zealot.
OK, that's your opinion. I respect that, and I respect your right to have that opinion. My opinion is that when religion forces it's beliefs into my life, that I have the right to have an opinion on that. You say that makes me a zealot, I say I have the right to question philosophies that affect my life directly. As for vitriol, this is what religion is, if you say that that is vitriol, then QED.
You just have a different denomination. A lot of religious ideals are good ones and shouldn't be rejected because of where they came from.
90% of it is crap, but that's just Sturgeon's Law. Ideals like "don't kill each other" are great. A lot of the other ideas are hilariously antiquated. We don't reject vaccines just because they came from a time when women weren't allowed to vote.
No one argues that religion doesn't support good ideals, the problem is that they support bad ones, and they tell people not to think, and have "faith" Thinking people can support good ideas and reject the bad ones without fear of persecution.
As for evolving, religions only evolve when science disproves another stupid superstitious belief. But they hang on to the stupid superstitious beliefs that science hasn't dis-proven, point at them and say Haha! What about that! Take that atheist! Or they just tell each other that science is a lie. Depends on who you talk to.
I'm not a Christian either, I've just read the bible, and I can tell you that if you cherry pick you can interpret it to mean just about anything. OTOH it says a lot of nasty things, and it most of them are far from circumspect.
If you read the bible, and I'm sure few "Christians" do, you can't help but walk away from the experience knowing that is was written by a bunch of iron age shepherds, not an omniscient God.
We're talking grade 9 here. That was the last year I had no option but to study biology. Conversely I loved chemistry and physics, still do.
Which raises a question, I sometimes blame my lousy memory on the mercury I used to play with, cool stuff, but I didn't do that until grade 12/13..
Biology does seem to be a fast moving science. Some incredibly interesting discoveries in biology and physics lately.
My point is that I hated biology. Too much memory work.
First point: doctors are not scientists. Not remotely.
I hated biology too.
You are apparently almost completely ignorant about Christianity.
You're probably right. I've read the bible.
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In my church, for example, I was told that the universe is roughly 13 billion years old, the earth is about 4.5 billion years old (give or take 6000), and natural selection happens.
How forward looking. And what did you believe before your church told you that?. Next week they'll be saying that the earth revolves around the sun.
But don't let the vast majority form your opinion of a group. Keep pointing to the extreme minority that every despises and say that is what comprises the entire group.
Does your church support freedom of choice? Do you require men who rape women to marry them and support them? How about medical experimentation? Is every sperm sacred? Every egg? Do you keep slaves? Do you think that using condoms in Africa is a larger evil than letting aids run rampant? Should Africans die for your beliefs? Are you looking forward to going to heaven where the most popular pastime is watching atheists burn in hell? Am I going to burn in hell forever? Do you tell your children that if they don't believe in God that they are going to burn in hell forever? Do you sit around at home at night hoping that Israel will nuke Iran thus starting the rapture? Do you support the holy wars? The crusades? Inquisitions? Jewish blood libel? Ireland? Religious genocides? Croatia? Palestine? Iraq? Do you eat pork? Do you wear clothing of mixed materials? Do you feel that religion should dictate the laws of civil society? Health care? contraception? Should abortion doctors be murdered? Do you support the protection of paedophiles by the church? Do you think that your mother or brother or child should be murdered if they profess another religion, as God commands? Will you go to hell for having impure thoughts? Genital mutilation, for or against? Censorship of science in schools? Is God responsible for everything science has yet to explain? Should faggots be put to death? Should they be sent to internment camps and beaten until they get their heads straight? What about atheist children? Are they evil? Are atheists evil and without morality because they do not fear the eternity of hell? Am I a sinful cretin because some naked tart bit an apple once? Would you sacrifice your first born if God commanded it?
etc. etc. etc.
You can disavow all of these things, yet by subscribing to Christianity and believing in superstitious nonsense, "faith" (belief in that for which there is no proof) you support them when you support religion.
Unlike all theist religions, I have no problem with what anyone believes, until it affects me. What I don't like is you forcing your ideals on me, and the rest of society, and then telling me I'm a bigot because I object.
Sigh. Sure man, you are welcome to your opinion if it makes you feel superior.
What if it doesn't make me feel superior?
Define "Good Christian" - is that the self-proclaimed or those that other proclaim to be "Good"?
No, you do it.
One of my teachers in school (a Biology teacher at that) in the US when I first moved over here wrote on a review that I am a "Good Christian Boy" - does that mean I need to be kicked out too?
/ Disclaimer- I've never been a Christian of any kind and was partially amused by the comment. (part of me was peeved that it was assumed that I was "Christian" because I was "Good".
Obviously not. But the biology teacher should be put to death immediately.
You just go on the no "fly to heaven" list. That is until you define what a "Good" Christian is. Then you will be forced to join the atheist youth, we'll get you a sexy brown uniform with an atheist symbol on the shoulder and a taser. You can set up roadblocks and arrest people with Jesus fish on their cars.
You can do whatever you want to them. We'll set up prisons, like the excellent ones they have for immigrants, where you can trade false promises for sex and generally treat Mexicans like animals.
We can make them work for pennies a day publishing atheist propaganda, and water board them when they don't act the way we want them to, because, after all, they are Christians. Not people.
We should get some lions.
OK, most of the Christians. Better?
Anyone that has any kind of issue with this, please pack your things and get out of the civilised world. You don't deserve to live past 30 in a heated home with running water, electrical appliances and the ability to communicate with someone more than 20 feet away.
Science, people - it's the shizzle.
You're kicking out all the Christians.
I don't find that hard to believe. As I said, I haven't bought Sony in a while.
You're a fucking ignorant idiot.
That's redundant.
Market research clearly supports your theory that removing linux had any effect whatsoever in how well it performed.
No, really, it did! It shows that all the 5 people that used that feature stopped buying sony! That'll show them!!!
Are you including the government agencies and universities using them as linux cluster nodes? You're a fucking idiot.
Thanks for that post, I'm grinning.