I don't actually know all that for sure, either. I did hear that they once tried, maybe with NT4, and failed pretty miserably. It'd probably be pretty safe to assume that they're trying, though.
The full name, though, is "Microsoft.Net". I think that pretty clearly identifies it for most people, and it certainly would be a shame if we had to censor people who wanted to call it ".Net" amongst their peers as an abbreviation.
After all, you wouldn't want fisheries companies suing providers for offering access to the "net"
I don't seem to recall much instability from that email service, even with as many members as it has. I've also yet to encounter any downtime at all, which is more than I can say for such a high profile site as this one.
Of course I'm only making a qualitative judgement. Maybe you can provide the uptime numbers you're using the make the claim that Hotmail isn't reliable.
These earlier posts are missing an important point. Most of the discussion is centered around ".Net Sucks, Microsoft Sucks" and "OSS rU1z0rz!", or even "MS is okay, but who's going to use Linux.Net?", but there's something happening for the first time here that we need to analye: If.Net is ported to a Linux Platform, what position does that give this new hybrid system?
Let's put it in the terms of a scenario: Some arbitrary Linux company, say Corel, is the only Linux platform to support Microsoft's one and only.Net platform.
Microsoft can't run Linux.
Debian can't run Win2k(Disclaimer: I like Debian, but it can't run Win2k. No harm done.).
Corel Linux.Net runs both...plus GNOME, plus KDE, plus KOFFEE, or whatever it's called.
Recompile yer kernel when you feel like it, run ASP+ for your webserver if you want to, run Apache if you feel like it, run both if you want to have an interesting benchmark between the two, the possibilities are quite frankly exponential.
So here's a serious question for those of you who aren't so quick to blow it off or fully embrace it with all of your uninformed conviction: What could this mean if it happens?
Seeing all the comments in the tone of "/. really does hold some sway over Red Hat's business", you really have to ask yourself: When do these sensationalistic RH posts cross the line and start becoming libelous?
After all, RH is a commercial company now. Just because/. is in many ways to be taken with a grain of salt doesn't mean that there can't be real repercussions to real companies. Like it or not, big business sees RH as Linux. You hurt RH, you make Linux look bad to other real companies, i.e. IBM, Sun, you get the picture.
I get mine for free at work, though. I was at one time just about ready to trash my home Windows partition, but then my SO needed Excel to do some stuff.
It'd be kinda funny, wouldn't it? I mean, funny in a sad sorta way, though. I want to have as many options as I can get, for sure. OTOH, I'd also like some consistency so I don't have to spend all my dev time special casing. Quality products... quality products.
I don't like some of what I'm seeing here(the posts, not the SC message), particularly the lambasting of Red Hat for their choice of compiler. Granted, I personally think it's dumb, and I have just about nothing to do with Red Hat(Debian), Red Hat's free to do (almost)whatever it wants with freely available software. Dissatisfaction, if that is indeed what results, will make itself clear in the bottom line.
As far as a problem goes, there isn't really one. The Critics are free to have their opinion about Red Hat, and I'm free to have my opinion about the Critics, and that opinion is, once again,
Deal with it
I don't even know if I'd recommend it myself, but there it is.
Show me where in the all-holy GPL Red Hat is prohibited or discouraged from releasing their distro with a development grade piece of code.
If they want to stick discontinued, Pre-Alpha, Alpha, or Beta code in their final product, then by all means let them do it. The code IS freely available, right? It's freely available so people can use it, right? If those people happen to be the people at Red Hat, and they decide to put an unfinished product in their distribution, then it's their business... literally. If people don't like it, then they sure as Hell won't use it. Red Hat's commercial. They're free to make their mistakes all by themselves. Deal with it.
My home machine is an old PR166, so this may be the time that hits the 10% mark relative to the fastest consumer chips. It's not *all* that slow, though.
Who even cares if it costs something to be part of the online community? No one can say Harvard fosters no community solely because you have to have money to go there.
"his" and "he" are also used in the case when the gender of an individual is unknown. Many people insist on using "her" and "she" instead, which is also perfectly fine, since it doesn't really matter much in this case, now does it?
Think about that before you get all upset about correct grammer(in lieu of an obviously inflammatory saying that would fit this situation) - either way.
Okay, let's compare apples to apples. First you can READ the article about the W2k bug, then you can READ the bugzilla list, and get back to me on which of those bugs count as "core operating system" bugs. Of course, you may not know what an "active directory" is, or if it's part of the "core operating system", as you say, but I'd be interested to know what you think.
Granted,/. borked their facts on this one, and most of the bugs don't sound all that bad as far as I'm concerned, but really, what's your point?
Wow, that looks pretty serious! An account with "Administrator" priveleges? Full Control? "Root access", as it may be called in the UNIX parlance? I've never heard of such a thing before, and it's definitely a serious problem that people should be aware of.
This is almost as bad as that default database password that Microsoft didn't fix in their SQL Server, and that SyBase didn't fix when they wrote it umpteen years ago.
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That could be true. I noticed a strikingly similar +5 post a little while later...
Why the Hell did this get modded down? It's the truth and you know it.
Sounds like the USPTO may finally achieve "business at the speed of stupidity".
You've got to be ready when posting the uber-cool!
It was back in the day when I actually believed most of the stuff that got posted here.
I say that if Bush is right and it's the internet's fault, we blame it all on Gore, since he created this monster in the first place.
I don't actually know all that for sure, either. I did hear that they once tried, maybe with NT4, and failed pretty miserably. It'd probably be pretty safe to assume that they're trying, though.
The full name, though, is "Microsoft .Net". I think that pretty clearly identifies it for most people, and it certainly would be a shame if we had to censor people who wanted to call it ".Net" amongst their peers as an abbreviation.
After all, you wouldn't want fisheries companies suing providers for offering access to the "net"
I don't seem to recall much instability from that email service, even with as many members as it has. I've also yet to encounter any downtime at all, which is more than I can say for such a high profile site as this one.
Of course I'm only making a qualitative judgement. Maybe you can provide the uptime numbers you're using the make the claim that Hotmail isn't reliable.
This is also off a
Hotmail? You mean the one that runs on BSD and Apache? That Hotmail? Hotmail.com?
Let's put it in the terms of a scenario: Some arbitrary Linux company, say Corel, is the only Linux platform to support Microsoft's one and only
Recompile yer kernel when you feel like it, run ASP+ for your webserver if you want to, run Apache if you feel like it, run both if you want to have an interesting benchmark between the two, the possibilities are quite frankly exponential.
So here's a serious question for those of you who aren't so quick to blow it off or fully embrace it with all of your uninformed conviction: What could this mean if it happens?
After all, RH is a commercial company now. Just because
I get mine for free at work, though. I was at one time just about ready to trash my home Windows partition, but then my SO needed Excel to do some stuff.
It'd be kinda funny, wouldn't it? I mean, funny in a sad sorta way, though. I want to have as many options as I can get, for sure. OTOH, I'd also like some consistency so I don't have to spend all my dev time special casing. Quality products... quality products.
As far as a problem goes, there isn't really one. The Critics are free to have their opinion about Red Hat, and I'm free to have my opinion about the Critics, and that opinion is, once again,
I don't even know if I'd recommend it myself, but there it is.
If they want to stick discontinued, Pre-Alpha, Alpha, or Beta code in their final product, then by all means let them do it. The code IS freely available, right? It's freely available so people can use it, right? If those people happen to be the people at Red Hat, and they decide to put an unfinished product in their distribution, then it's their business... literally. If people don't like it, then they sure as Hell won't use it. Red Hat's commercial. They're free to make their mistakes all by themselves. Deal with it.
My home machine is an old PR166, so this may be the time that hits the 10% mark relative to the fastest consumer chips. It's not *all* that slow, though.
Who even cares if it costs something to be part of the online community? No one can say Harvard fosters no community solely because you have to have money to go there.
I would've just said that this guys sounds like he's jealous 'cause nobody loves him.
Oops, forgot to spell-check my post
"his" and "he" are also used in the case when the gender of an individual is unknown. Many people insist on using "her" and "she" instead, which is also perfectly fine, since it doesn't really matter much in this case, now does it?
Think about that before you get all upset about correct grammer(in lieu of an obviously inflammatory saying that would fit this situation) - either way.
Okay, let's compare apples to apples. First you can READ the article about the W2k bug, then you can READ the bugzilla list, and get back to me on which of those bugs count as "core operating system" bugs. Of course, you may not know what an "active directory" is, or if it's part of the "core operating system", as you say, but I'd be interested to know what you think.
/. borked their facts on this one, and most of the bugs don't sound all that bad as far as I'm concerned, but really, what's your point?
Granted,
Wow, that looks pretty serious! An account with "Administrator" priveleges? Full Control? "Root access", as it may be called in the UNIX parlance? I've never heard of such a thing before, and it's definitely a serious problem that people should be aware of.
This is almost as bad as that default database password that Microsoft didn't fix in their SQL Server, and that SyBase didn't fix when they wrote it umpteen years ago.
You can't believe Buzilla, though, since it probably doesn't count as well as CmdrPaco.
Besides, I heard it was more like 25,000 when I asked my Magic 8-Ball. I'd trust the higher number, since it makes for better sensationalism.