You can buy Sybase 11.9.2 ASE with full support from Sybase *now* -- costs the same as other "Workgroup" servers like NT, which ain't bad at all.
I think Sybase is actually in a pretty good position with Linux. The Adaptive Server Anywhere (formerly SQL Anywhere) is an excellent, fast, full featured yet low-maintenance engine. Just the kind of thing to install on a machine to drop at a client's location and not worry about it. Combine that with SQL Remote (replication) and you've got a kick-ass solution on a rock-solid platform.
Sybase (either Adaptive Server Enterprise or Adaptive Server Anywhere) can be administrated from the (IMHO) excellent tool Sybase Central running on NT or 95. Works like a charm.
Let's look at a concrete example: the steel industry and the Pittsburgh area. You'd be hard-pressed to say that people like Carnegie and Frick gave a rat's ass about anyone but the wealthy when they were making their money. The common working man was a replaceable and necessary cog who needed to be kept down to do this grunt work.
But the Carnegie library system in Pittsburgh is everywhere. The Carnegie museums entertain and educate many. Frick Park stretches for lush green miles.
Do you have to throw out all good when it's 'tainted' by bad? Or are people, their motivations and their legacies just a little more complicated than that?
Put another way: I know H. L. Mencken was one sharp witted guy and a great writer, but does the fact that he was an anti-semite make me ignore everything he's done? Or do I, as a thoughtful person, take that into account when I read his works?
I agree entirely. I have a NEC P-150 and the cheap network card that came with the machine worked fine, although at times a little flaky in linux. Popped it out, popped it back in -- everything is cool.
NT has no such concept. If the card flaked out while I was working, the whole machine froze. Hard. Totally evil. I can't believe people say NT is better on laptops than Linux -- I never even got any decent error messages from NT about the card, whereas linux would tell me that it thought I'd just put in a memory card. Funky.
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I've always been intrigued by Be but couldn't seem to find this info on their website: the current release (4.5) is still a beta, right? If so, when is v1.0 supposed to be out?
(Not that there's anything *wrong* with beta, just curious.)
*W*hip *I*nflation *N*ow, probably the only thing people will remember about Jerry Ford except for the chevy chase impersonations and the "appearance" on the simpsons...
If you went to yapc, you'd know. People like him, Tom, Adam and countless more make this community (not just Perl -- opensource, etc.) so different from everything else and so excellent. Strength from diversity, rah rah rah.
Chris
(wishing I had several thousand bucks to be at TPC right now...)
11.9.2 is scheduled to be out for Linux within weeks; it's supposed to be priced along the lines of NT and 'workgroup' databases, so you won't have to plunk down $50K just to sit at the table:)
In addition, Sybase SQL Anywhere is currently out for Linux, which is excellent for most applications, particularly where you're installing it on a server for someone else and don't want any upkeep hassles.
(not working for Sybase, just a relatively happy customer)
Umm.. does it have to be an either/or question? Can't a person know perl/emacs/html/sql AND know Dreamweaver? Isn't it a matter of (as someone above noted) using the best tool for the job?
I tend to do everything in XEmacs myself, but that's mostly for dynamic websites where most of the content is generated and for relatively simple pages. I tried dreamweaver this week on a page with lots (25+) of layers that responded to user clicks (hiding, showing, not much moving) and was *very* impressed. Using XEmacs on such a page was downright confusing, particularly because I wasn't the original author.
I don't necessarily think Dreamweaver is appropriate for everything. But it has its place. That place depends on the person -- someone more graphically inclined that I might be able to do a lot more with DW and less with XEmacs. Whatever.
Number one, I've been using Redhat (and Debian) for three years. I have always bought the RH distribution from RH for one reason: money talks, and bullshit walks. These folks are doing a Good Thing, therefore they get my money. It's that simple, and it's not going to change. Perhaps I'm more generous than some, but surely not moreso than all?
Furthermore when I get a distribution to install on one of my customers' servers, I always get RH. They get the book, they get the sticker, and they get something they recognize.
MySQL does have an ODBC driver for windows machines, but it's a PITA to setup. I can rarely get it setup properly. (It's nice to query a MySQL db that has website hits logged to it from Excel, attach it to an e-mail and send it to a client...)
Sybase, on the other hand, has ODBC drivers from lots of different people, and if those don't work you can probably use a MS SQL Server driver.
I'm in the process of figuring out if/how to move certain applications from MySQL over to Sybase primarily because of:
-Transactions -Stored procedures -Triggers -potential for replication
I'm going to keep the website hits logging to MySQL, though, because it's so darned fast...
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You can buy Sybase 11.9.2 ASE with full support from Sybase *now* -- costs the same as other "Workgroup" servers like NT, which ain't bad at all.
I think Sybase is actually in a pretty good position with Linux. The Adaptive Server Anywhere (formerly SQL Anywhere) is an excellent, fast, full featured yet low-maintenance engine. Just the kind of thing to install on a machine to drop at a client's location and not worry about it. Combine that with SQL Remote (replication) and you've got a kick-ass solution on a rock-solid platform.
Sybase (either Adaptive Server Enterprise or Adaptive Server Anywhere) can be administrated from the (IMHO) excellent tool Sybase Central running on NT or 95. Works like a charm.
Let's look at a concrete example: the steel industry and the Pittsburgh area. You'd be hard-pressed to say that people like Carnegie and Frick gave a rat's ass about anyone but the wealthy when they were making their money. The common working man was a replaceable and necessary cog who needed to be kept down to do this grunt work.
But the Carnegie library system in Pittsburgh is everywhere. The Carnegie museums entertain and educate many. Frick Park stretches for lush green miles.
Do you have to throw out all good when it's 'tainted' by bad? Or are people, their motivations and their legacies just a little more complicated than that?
Put another way: I know H. L. Mencken was one sharp witted guy and a great writer, but does the fact that he was an anti-semite make me ignore everything he's done? Or do I, as a thoughtful person, take that into account when I read his works?
I agree entirely. I have a NEC P-150 and the cheap network card that came with the machine worked fine, although at times a little flaky in linux. Popped it out, popped it back in -- everything is cool.
NT has no such concept. If the card flaked out while I was working, the whole machine froze. Hard. Totally evil. I can't believe people say NT is better on laptops than Linux -- I never even got any decent error messages from NT about the card, whereas linux would tell me that it thought I'd just put in a memory card. Funky.
I've always been intrigued by Be but couldn't seem to find this info on their website: the current release (4.5) is still a beta, right? If so, when is v1.0 supposed to be out?
(Not that there's anything *wrong* with beta, just curious.)
*W*hip *I*nflation *N*ow, probably the only thing people will remember about Jerry Ford except for the chevy chase impersonations and the "appearance" on the simpsons...
"Do you like Nachos?"
Here's a link at Wired for lots of stuff about Ted Nelson, including the article about him and Xanadu mentioned above. http://www.wired.com/wired/ar chive/people/ted_nelson/
If you went to yapc, you'd know. People like him, Tom, Adam and countless more make this community (not just Perl -- opensource, etc.) so different from everything else and so excellent. Strength from diversity, rah rah rah.
Chris
(wishing I had several thousand bucks to be at TPC right now...)
11.9.2 is scheduled to be out for Linux within weeks; it's supposed to be priced along the lines of NT and 'workgroup' databases, so you won't have to plunk down $50K just to sit at the table :)
In addition, Sybase SQL Anywhere is currently out for Linux, which is excellent for most applications, particularly where you're installing it on a server for someone else and don't want any upkeep hassles.
(not working for Sybase, just a relatively happy customer)
Umm.. does it have to be an either/or question? Can't a person know perl/emacs/html/sql AND know Dreamweaver? Isn't it a matter of (as someone above noted) using the best tool for the job?
I tend to do everything in XEmacs myself, but that's mostly for dynamic websites where most of the content is generated and for relatively simple pages. I tried dreamweaver this week on a page with lots (25+) of layers that responded to user clicks (hiding, showing, not much moving) and was *very* impressed. Using XEmacs on such a page was downright confusing, particularly because I wasn't the original author.
I don't necessarily think Dreamweaver is appropriate for everything. But it has its place. That place depends on the person -- someone more graphically inclined that I might be able to do a lot more with DW and less with XEmacs. Whatever.
Number one, I've been using Redhat (and Debian) for three years. I have always bought the RH distribution from RH for one reason: money talks, and bullshit walks. These folks are doing a Good Thing, therefore they get my money. It's that simple, and it's not going to change. Perhaps I'm more generous than some, but surely not moreso than all?
Furthermore when I get a distribution to install on one of my customers' servers, I always get RH. They get the book, they get the sticker, and they get something they recognize.
MySQL does have an ODBC driver for windows machines, but it's a PITA to setup. I can rarely get it setup properly. (It's nice to query a MySQL db that has website hits logged to it from Excel, attach it to an e-mail and send it to a client...)
Sybase, on the other hand, has ODBC drivers from lots of different people, and if those don't work you can probably use a MS SQL Server driver.
I'm in the process of figuring out if/how to move certain applications from MySQL over to Sybase primarily because of:
-Transactions
-Stored procedures
-Triggers
-potential for replication
I'm going to keep the website hits logging to MySQL, though, because it's so darned fast...