I seriously doubt that anyone would be opening the charms bar and shutting down the PC using a touch screen so much that it is going to give you gorilla arm.
How does that matter to end users? The OEMs/Carriers install shitty skins, apps and services that destroy battery life and slow down the phone by taking up RAM.
I've read a few arguments that a display without touch input is "crappy hardware" for running Windows 8, but then that'd mean almost every desktop PC monitor is "crappy hardware" because it doesn't encourage an interaction modality known for inducing gorilla arm.
I didn't know that having a touchscreen makes the keyboard and mouse melt away and force you to use only the touchscreen thereby turning you into a gorilla.
So that they can screw up the UI with their shitty skins, install unremovable always running crapware and then not update it for a couple of years like they do with their Android phones? And then be beholden to stupid carrier crapware? Thank heavens Microsoft doesn't allow that crap to happen.
For example look at what HTC and the carriers install on Android and which cannot be uninstalled and then cause serious security issues which are never fixed.
The HTC Thunderbolt is a nice HTC Android device that came with the following software that I don't use, didn't want and can't remove: Amazon Kindle Verizon Backup Assistant (tied to a service offering I don't use) Bitbop Blockbuster Friendstream Let's Golf 2 Mobile Hotspot (a poor replacement for the native Android hotspot that is tied to charging the user again for the "unlimited" data plan they've already purchased) Peep (a poor Twitter client) Rhapsody (a music service) Rock Band (a game) TuneWiki (lord knows what this is) V CAST Media V CAST Music V CAST Tones V CAST Videos VZ Navigator Several apps from Sprint or HTC come pre-installed on the HTC EVO 4G. These include: Footprints Amazon Mp3 Store NASCAR Sprint Cup Mobile Qik Sprint Football Live Sprint Navigation Sprint TV
Windows Phone disallows always running services and any carrier bundled software can be easily uninstalled in about five seconds.
"Although Google has debuted a partial native client edition of QuickOffice on Chrome OS and plans to wrap up the port on that platform, there are no technical barriers that prevent the finished application from also running within the Chrome browser on Windows, OS X and Linux.
Google declined to comment on whether or when it will offer QuickOffice for Chrome."
I'm impressed by your nitpicking on the first link while failing to address the bigger point.
What is "legitimate" and what is considered not "legitimate" is not even a fine line, it's a complete gray gradient. Even Apple is struggling with the App Store while trying to define it.
For example, newer versions of uTorrent(for Windows) contain ads and contain installations for toolbars etc while the older ones didn't.
I am having a really hard time imaging that you think that this won't be a problem on Windows since a lot of freeware suddenly turns into adware, and worse yet, spyware.
Doesn't happen under Android, why would it happen under Windows? I'd assume that whether Microsoft examines every binary or not, they'd require anyone using the feature agree to a set of terms and conditions (with penalties for non-compliance) anyway.
Also, wanted to add, good luck spending a ton of money suing some fly-by-night guy in Ukraine or China for violating ToS.
If the Play Store gets so much attention from malware writers, the PC ecosystem with a couple of billion of PCs most of them with good network connections(for spam and DDoS) and used to login to banks and in heavy corporate use across the largest companies in the world has no chance not attracting malware.
I am pretty sure that is for Windows Hardware Certification too, which needs highly skilled people to look at the driver and make sure it doesn't destabilize the rest of the system or contain obvious security holes.
I never understood why Microsoft, with all its code signing, frameworks, and what-not, never opened up an API for Windows Update so there could be a single update system instead of every OEM and software company piling on their own update systems. Seems simple...
1. Register application and its update url with Windows Update API.
2. Windows API checks code signing, rejects invalid and unsigned code.
3. Windows Update updates all code-signed software on system.
4....
5. Profit?
Ah! Now I see why it hasn't been done!
Code signed by who exactly?
The problem is this in a nutshell:
1) Bonzibuddy releases version 1, a great clean freeware app with great smileys that everyone wants. 2) Registers with the Windows API and pushes updates regularly 3) Some beancounter at BonziBuddy says we need to include spyware and toolbars to make money so they include it in a new update 4) User uses Windows Update to update Bonzi Buddy, ends with 3 tray icons with notifications, 2 toolbars and changes to home page and the hosts file pointing Google.com to Ask.com and Safari set as the default browser. 5) User blames Windows Update and Microsoft for spoiling their system
Unless Microsoft started inspecting every single update for spyware etc. this won't make sense, but then everyone will claim this is discrimination and talk about user rights to load hundreds of toolbars onto their machine. AKA cluster****.
Now you understand why Windows does not provide an Update API for Windows update except drivers and it's own programs and why they came with the Windows 8 store but pretty much mostly for heavily sandboxed applications that cannot change the rest of the system?
GP is talking about summaries and +5 insightful Slashdot posts.
7? No. Widespread rejoicing as almost everything that was wrong about XP was fixed. There were even die-hard GNU/Linux users who were willing to run it. Even I like 7.
Perhaps you missed the FUD campaign with faked benchmarks that Slashdot lapped up against Windows 7? Or the stories about how it was horrible?
It's funny to see the modded up posts on Slashdot on given stories. Comparing Windows to Linux or OS X? Windows absolutely sucks and everyone has or is moving away from it. Windows N vs. Windows N-1 ? N-1 is suddenly the best OS ever and version N sucks horribly.
The reason behind disabling hibernate functionalities is that currently the Linux kernel doesn’t have the capability of verifying the resume image when returning from hibernation, which compromises the Secure Boot trust mode
The stupidity, confusion, lies and just plain FUD in every secure boot thread on Slashdot is just plain amazing.
Microsoft have already mandated that systems with ARM platforms MUST NOT have an option to disable Secure Boot. Therefore the only software that will boot on these systems is software that Microsoft has blessed.
That's just plain wrong. Samsung can ship Android tablets just fine without it even having Secure Boot.
Last I heard, Samsung shipped a lot of "ARM platforms" with Android and Windows 8 PCs and Windows RT tablets just fine so that means jack shit.
It's my goddamn computer, my goddamn hardware, and it's MINE. I will run any fucking operating system I goddamn well please on it, and if Microsoft doesn't like that, they can FUCK THEMSELVES right in the GODDAMN EAR.
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The Pixel is not a threat to windows. The $200 chromebooks are.
Where can you get a Chromebook for $200 ? Are they already on firesale?
I seriously doubt that anyone would be opening the charms bar and shutting down the PC using a touch screen so much that it is going to give you gorilla arm.
Yes it's so easy, it's the script kiddies choice!!!!
http://nakedsecurity.sophos.com/2013/02/21/oxford-university-blocks-google-docs-phishing-attacks/
How does that matter to end users? The OEMs/Carriers install shitty skins, apps and services that destroy battery life and slow down the phone by taking up RAM.
This does not happen with Windows Phone or iOS.
http://arstechnica.com/gadgets/2013/02/two-year-old-phone-receives-15-month-old-software-update/
Finally, an insightful comment with a realistic assessment of the situation among the multitude of the bullshit anti-Microsoft posts.
Nokia started making profits with Windows Phone 8.
http://thenextweb.com/insider/2013/01/10/nokia-sold-4-4-million-lumia-smartphones-in-solid-q4-2012-results-exceeded-expectations/
Googorola continues to make losses making Android phones.
http://news.cnet.com/8301-1035_3-57565253-94/motorolas-$353m-q4-loss-weighs-on-google-results/
Go figure, and get a clue.
Samsung's been making Windows mobile and Windows phones since forever.
I didn't know 13.9% of Italian smartphone buyers lived in Redmond.
http://news.techworld.com/operating-systems/3421936/windows-phone-triples-uk-market-share-in-a-year/
I've read a few arguments that a display without touch input is "crappy hardware" for running Windows 8, but then that'd mean almost every desktop PC monitor is "crappy hardware" because it doesn't encourage an interaction modality known for inducing gorilla arm.
I didn't know that having a touchscreen makes the keyboard and mouse melt away and force you to use only the touchscreen thereby turning you into a gorilla.
So that they can screw up the UI with their shitty skins, install unremovable always running crapware and then not update it for a couple of years like they do with their Android phones? And then be beholden to stupid carrier crapware? Thank heavens Microsoft doesn't allow that crap to happen.
For example look at what HTC and the carriers install on Android and which cannot be uninstalled and then cause serious security issues which are never fixed.
http://www.zdnet.com/blog/virtualization/bloatware-a-creeping-problem/4173
The HTC Thunderbolt is a nice HTC Android device that came with the following software that I don't use, didn't want and can't remove:
Amazon Kindle
Verizon Backup Assistant (tied to a service offering I don't use)
Bitbop
Blockbuster
Friendstream
Let's Golf 2
Mobile Hotspot (a poor replacement for the native Android hotspot that is tied to charging the user again for the "unlimited" data plan they've already purchased)
Peep (a poor Twitter client)
Rhapsody (a music service)
Rock Band (a game)
TuneWiki (lord knows what this is)
V CAST Media
V CAST Music
V CAST Tones
V CAST Videos
VZ Navigator
Several apps from Sprint or HTC come pre-installed on the HTC EVO 4G. These include:
Footprints
Amazon Mp3 Store
NASCAR Sprint Cup Mobile
Qik
Sprint Football Live
Sprint Navigation
Sprint TV
Windows Phone disallows always running services and any carrier bundled software can be easily uninstalled in about five seconds.
Is that why Motorola is struggling and still making huge losses after being bought up by Google?
Or is that why Samsung is making billions while still selling Windows Phones?
Or why Blackberry is suffering?
Or why Palm died after moving from Windows Mobile to WebOS?
Or why HTC and Sony are struggling after making flagship Android phones?
Stop with the stupid cherrypicking memes.
Yet:
"Although Google has debuted a partial native client edition of QuickOffice on Chrome OS and plans to wrap up the port on that platform, there are no technical barriers that prevent the finished application from also running within the Chrome browser on Windows, OS X and Linux.
Google declined to comment on whether or when it will offer QuickOffice for Chrome."
Whatever happens to their sales pitch for Google Docs for enterprise?
I'm impressed by your nitpicking on the first link while failing to address the bigger point.
What is "legitimate" and what is considered not "legitimate" is not even a fine line, it's a complete gray gradient. Even Apple is struggling with the App Store while trying to define it.
For example, newer versions of uTorrent(for Windows) contain ads and contain installations for toolbars etc while the older ones didn't.
As for an example of someone having trouble with updated software on Android, here's one http://androidforums.com/android-lounge/566414-installed-my-update-now-im-bombarded-app-spam.html
I am having a really hard time imaging that you think that this won't be a problem on Windows since a lot of freeware suddenly turns into adware, and worse yet, spyware.
Doesn't happen under Android, why would it happen under Windows? I'd assume that whether Microsoft examines every binary or not, they'd require anyone using the feature agree to a set of terms and conditions (with penalties for non-compliance) anyway.
Also, wanted to add, good luck spending a ton of money suing some fly-by-night guy in Ukraine or China for violating ToS.
What do you mean "doesn't happen under Android" ? Have you been sleeping under a rock?
http://www.afterdawn.com/news/article.cfm/2012/12/31/android_malware_using_google_play_store_icon_to_trick_users
http://thenextweb.com/insider/2013/02/03/android-malware-emerges-on-google-play-which-installs-a-trojan-on-your-pc-uses-your-microphone-to-record-you/
http://www.theverge.com/2012/12/10/3751202/google-android-malware-scanner-test
http://techcrunch.com/2012/11/05/android-malware-surges-despite-googles-efforts-to-bounce-dodgy-apps-off-its-platform-f-secure-ids-51447-unique-samples-in-q3/
If the Play Store gets so much attention from malware writers, the PC ecosystem with a couple of billion of PCs most of them with good network connections(for spam and DDoS) and used to login to banks and in heavy corporate use across the largest companies in the world has no chance not attracting malware.
I am pretty sure that is for Windows Hardware Certification too, which needs highly skilled people to look at the driver and make sure it doesn't destabilize the rest of the system or contain obvious security holes.
I never understood why Microsoft, with all its code signing, frameworks, and what-not, never opened up an API for Windows Update so there could be a single update system instead of every OEM and software company piling on their own update systems. Seems simple...
1. Register application and its update url with Windows Update API.
2. Windows API checks code signing, rejects invalid and unsigned code.
3. Windows Update updates all code-signed software on system.
4. ...
5. Profit?
Ah! Now I see why it hasn't been done!
Code signed by who exactly?
The problem is this in a nutshell:
1) Bonzibuddy releases version 1, a great clean freeware app with great smileys that everyone wants.
2) Registers with the Windows API and pushes updates regularly
3) Some beancounter at BonziBuddy says we need to include spyware and toolbars to make money so they include it in a new update
4) User uses Windows Update to update Bonzi Buddy, ends with 3 tray icons with notifications, 2 toolbars and changes to home page and the hosts file pointing Google.com to Ask.com and Safari set as the default browser.
5) User blames Windows Update and Microsoft for spoiling their system
Unless Microsoft started inspecting every single update for spyware etc. this won't make sense, but then everyone will claim this is discrimination and talk about user rights to load hundreds of toolbars onto their machine. AKA cluster****.
Now you understand why Windows does not provide an Update API for Windows update except drivers and it's own programs and why they came with the Windows 8 store but pretty much mostly for heavily sandboxed applications that cannot change the rest of the system?
GP is talking about summaries and +5 insightful Slashdot posts.
7? No. Widespread rejoicing as almost everything that was wrong about XP was fixed. There were even die-hard GNU/Linux users who were willing to run it. Even I like 7.
Perhaps you missed the FUD campaign with faked benchmarks that Slashdot lapped up against Windows 7?
Or the stories about how it was horrible?
A refresher, go read the summaries and comments:
http://tech.slashdot.org/story/09/02/16/2259257/draconian-drm-revealed-in-windows-7
http://yro.slashdot.org/story/10/02/11/1735210/anti-piracy-windows-7-update-phones-home-quarterly
http://tech.slashdot.org/story/09/01/30/1437233/if-windows-7-fails-citrix-not-linux-wins
http://it.slashdot.org/story/09/09/08/1345247/windows-7-reintroduces-remote-bsod
One of the faked benchmark articles http://tech.slashdot.org/firehose.pl?op=view&type=story&sid=10/02/18/0429258
The big reveal http://news.slashdot.org/story/10/02/21/2329249/windows-7-memory-usage-critic-outed-as-fraud
It's funny to see the modded up posts on Slashdot on given stories. Comparing Windows to Linux or OS X? Windows absolutely sucks and everyone has or is moving away from it. Windows N vs. Windows N-1 ? N-1 is suddenly the best OS ever and version N sucks horribly.
Really? How many people even use Firefox for Android?
The Macs at the Mac Business Unit were affected.
Troll more, submitter.
RTFA, for chrissake.
The reason behind disabling hibernate functionalities is that currently the Linux kernel doesn’t have the capability of verifying the resume image when returning from hibernation, which compromises the Secure Boot trust mode
The stupidity, confusion, lies and just plain FUD in every secure boot thread on Slashdot is just plain amazing.
Microsoft have already mandated that systems with ARM platforms MUST NOT have an option to disable Secure Boot. Therefore the only software that will boot on these systems is software that Microsoft has blessed.
That's just plain wrong. Samsung can ship Android tablets just fine without it even having Secure Boot.
Last I heard, Samsung shipped a lot of "ARM platforms" with Android and Windows 8 PCs and Windows RT tablets just fine so that means jack shit.
It's my goddamn computer, my goddamn hardware, and it's MINE. I will run any fucking operating system I goddamn well please on it, and if Microsoft doesn't like that, they can FUCK THEMSELVES right in the GODDAMN EAR.
Or you can just disable it...
Was the quarterly loss that bad?
WTF, anyone know what the submitter is blabbering about here?