It was too expensive due to the required Intel hardware, and the software was essentially a half-baked beta. That doesn't mean "Google TV a 'Big Mistake'"
So the software and hardware where bad, but otherwise it was a great idea?
Google needs to put more wood behind fewer arrows. Instead of releasing half-assed beta products, how about polishing them, subjecting them to real user tests(not just dogfooding by geeks) ?
On the other hand, you're absolutely right. Microsoft and their OEMs should dissolve themselves and give the money back to shareholders since failing at one thing means they will fail at another and they shouldn't even try to go against Apple who is the invincible winner forever and ever in tablets. I mean look at the Touchpad and Android tablets failing. Right?
>Steam should have no problem with the sandbox restrictions. You're fully able to do whatever the fuck you want in certain areas and any process that you launch yourself.
Don't know about Steam, but Xfire on Windows integrates with the game even if you don't use it to launch the game. Or apps like Teamspeak.
>No, steam can't plug itself into iChat, and thats good, because I don't WANT it having access to my iChat contact list, or my normal contact list or anything else.
And nobody else does or should, right? Does Steam even try to attaching itself to iChat now? Strawman much?
Windows 8 will run everything Windows 7 and before would run.
No it won't. An ARM tablet won't run anything from Windows 7 other than the few.Net applications which don't call native code other than that provided by Microsoft.
And any of those applications which do run will leave you with a WIMP interface on a crappy touchscreen. Microsoft have been pushing that for at least a decade and it's been a dismal failure.
So again, what does a Windows 8 tablet offer that an iPad or an Android tablet don't?
More powerful x86 slates that you can dock to use all existing PC apps but still use Metro apps on the go. http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=w8-K1ELv6DE
Of course these will probably be bigger and heavier (and more expensive) than Win 8 ARM tablets or an iPad, but Microsoft and their OEMs think there is a market for them.
> This is like Microsoft requiring applications to work as non-Administrator users for the Designed For... certification, or a Linux distribution rejecting suid root apps from the default repository.
Not so fast. The restrictions are nothing like non-Admin stuff. This goes far beyond non-Admin rights and restricts a lot of things(like app integration or communication, apps like Steam or XFire can't integrate with games).
Not to mention these numbers back in March(when WP was just 6 months old). Should be quite higher now.
1.5 Million – The Windows Phone Developer Tools, consisting of Visual Studio Express for Windows Phone and Expression Blend 4 for Windows Phone, have been downloaded over 1.5 million times.
36,000 - 36,000 members of the AppHub community have voted with their wallets and became members of the Windows Phone developer community.
Windows Phone Mango has background streaming as an API that ANYONE can use. Care to show some references that show MS giving native code rights to 3rd parties instead of just showing idle speculation and rumors from some random forum threads?
WP7 is a complete rewrite of WM because WM sucked in task management and battery life(like Android?). Also, the UI needed resistive pressure sensitive screens whereas the world is moving to capacitative touch. Think of WP7 as a new OS. Those with it seems to universally like it exactly because it doesn't have the same problems that WM had.
Do you folks even think through your strategies even for a minute?
MS and Apple will most likely never sue each other over patents. Each has enough patents that apply to the other that the whole court system would be dragged down and it would take 100 years to resolve the claims. Thats why Apple is not suing MS over WP7 but suing the heck out of Android OEMs.
Also, Apple couldn't care less about what happens to anyone else using BSD. They have their own branches already, the original writers and code can go to heck for all they care.
I bet you could easily whittle that down to less than 50 who effectively control just about everything in the first-world--when you factor in subsidiaries, companies they invest in or who invest in or depend on them, companies they partner with extensively, etc. Just look at the web of control that the major banking companies alone exert. When a handful of companies in a single industry are so powerful that if they fail, your ENTIRE ECONOMY (and that of many other countries) collapses, I would say they effectively own you. That's way more powerful than any mere group of individual citizens could ever hope to be.
Windows Phone 7 is a completely different beast from WM. MS just released the major 'Mango' update for all Windows phones. The UI is also so completely different from WM that you'll wonder if they were even made by the same company.
Lets expand that to anyone who says anything positive against MS and tag them with the Borg icon, that way we can drive them out with comments and moderation. Wait, that has already happened.
I think Windows Defender or whatever they have by default on all machines should detect and warn about out of date Java, Flash and Reader at the minimum. Also, they should be made to auto update Chrome style by default unless turned off.
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It was too expensive due to the required Intel hardware, and the software was essentially a half-baked beta. That doesn't mean "Google TV a 'Big Mistake'"
So the software and hardware where bad, but otherwise it was a great idea?
Yes, the firmware was awesome.
Google needs to put more wood behind fewer arrows. Instead of releasing half-assed beta products, how about polishing them, subjecting them to real user tests(not just dogfooding by geeks) ?
Is this what you expect people to use control the TV? http://tctechcrunch.files.wordpress.com/2010/10/sonygtv1.jpeg?w=588&h=332
Really? That looks more like a cockpit than a remote control, and doesn't fit comfortably, or at all, in one hand.
http://techcrunch.com/2011/09/02/gartner-idc-windows-phone-to-steal-second-place-from-ios-by-2015/
On the other hand, you're absolutely right. Microsoft and their OEMs should dissolve themselves and give the money back to shareholders since failing at one thing means they will fail at another and they shouldn't even try to go against Apple who is the invincible winner forever and ever in tablets. I mean look at the Touchpad and Android tablets failing. Right?
>Steam should have no problem with the sandbox restrictions. You're fully able to do whatever the fuck you want in certain areas and any process that you launch yourself.
Don't know about Steam, but Xfire on Windows integrates with the game even if you don't use it to launch the game. Or apps like Teamspeak.
>No, steam can't plug itself into iChat, and thats good, because I don't WANT it having access to my iChat contact list, or my normal contact list or anything else.
And nobody else does or should, right? Does Steam even try to attaching itself to iChat now? Strawman much?
That was intended to be a facetious reply to a rhetorical question. Nothing serious.
>Their reports ALWAYS favor Microsoft
Like this one? The first Google hit?
http://www.eweek.com/c/a/Messaging-and-Collaboration/Gmail-Now-Credible-Rival-to-Microsoft-Exchange-Gartner-617996/
Your comments NEVER favor Microsoft though. :) People have to be dense to believe you?
Since you seem to be incapable of using a search engine:
http://macdailynews.com/2011/04/07/gartner-microsoft-windows-phone-market-share-to-surpass-apples-ios-in-2015/
Here is your screenshot.
http://www.geeknewscentral.com/2011/10/24/windows-phone-marketplace-hits-35000-apps/
Windows 8 will run everything Windows 7 and before would run.
No it won't. An ARM tablet won't run anything from Windows 7 other than the few .Net applications which don't call native code other than that provided by Microsoft.
And any of those applications which do run will leave you with a WIMP interface on a crappy touchscreen. Microsoft have been pushing that for at least a decade and it's been a dismal failure.
So again, what does a Windows 8 tablet offer that an iPad or an Android tablet don't?
More powerful x86 slates that you can dock to use all existing PC apps but still use Metro apps on the go.
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=w8-K1ELv6DE
Of course these will probably be bigger and heavier (and more expensive) than Win 8 ARM tablets or an iPad, but Microsoft and their OEMs think there is a market for them.
> This is like Microsoft requiring applications to work as non-Administrator users for the Designed For... certification, or a Linux distribution rejecting suid root apps from the default repository.
Not so fast. The restrictions are nothing like non-Admin stuff. This goes far beyond non-Admin rights and restricts a lot of things(like app integration or communication, apps like Steam or XFire can't integrate with games).
RTFA.
>For example, the full Opera browser is available in the Mac app store. (
It won't be from March.(or be stuck without any updates). RTFA. Atleast read the summary?
There are 35,000 apps in the Windows marketplace.
Not to mention these numbers back in March(when WP was just 6 months old). Should be quite higher now.
1.5 Million – The Windows Phone Developer Tools, consisting of Visual Studio Express for Windows Phone and Expression Blend 4 for Windows Phone, have been downloaded over 1.5 million times.
36,000 - 36,000 members of the AppHub community have voted with their wallets and became members of the Windows Phone developer community.
Typical Slashdot blindness.
They're paying $1 billion to Nokia and maps(Navteq) are involved, so it might significantly improve in the future.
Huh what? Apple is using all kinds of patents against Android. See http://www.pcworld.com/businesscenter/article/242334/itc_deals_htc_setback_in_apple_patent_war.html
http://tech.fortune.cnn.com/2011/07/16/apple-vs-google-inside-an-android-patent-violation/
Take your Apple Love(TM) to RoughlyDrafted(not even linking that crap).
http://rootzwiki.com/topic/3477-releasealpha2discussion-cyanogenmod-team-touchpad-port/
Windows Phone Mango has background streaming as an API that ANYONE can use. Care to show some references that show MS giving native code rights to 3rd parties instead of just showing idle speculation and rumors from some random forum threads?
WP7 is a complete rewrite of WM because WM sucked in task management and battery life(like Android?). Also, the UI needed resistive pressure sensitive screens whereas the world is moving to capacitative touch. Think of WP7 as a new OS. Those with it seems to universally like it exactly because it doesn't have the same problems that WM had.
ALmost there http://i.imgur.com/KxrYN.png
I think the point is that only the manufacturers of the devices are being sued over to get a cut of their revenues on their devices.
Huh what?
Do you folks even think through your strategies even for a minute?
MS and Apple will most likely never sue each other over patents. Each has enough patents that apply to the other that the whole court system would be dragged down and it would take 100 years to resolve the claims. Thats why Apple is not suing MS over WP7 but suing the heck out of Android OEMs.
Also, Apple couldn't care less about what happens to anyone else using BSD. They have their own branches already, the original writers and code can go to heck for all they care.
What makes you think otherwise?
I bet you could easily whittle that down to less than 50 who effectively control just about everything in the first-world--when you factor in subsidiaries, companies they invest in or who invest in or depend on them, companies they partner with extensively, etc. Just look at the web of control that the major banking companies alone exert. When a handful of companies in a single industry are so powerful that if they fail, your ENTIRE ECONOMY (and that of many other countries) collapses, I would say they effectively own you. That's way more powerful than any mere group of individual citizens could ever hope to be.
Relevant: http://i.imgur.com/KxrYN.png
Windows Phone 7 is a completely different beast from WM. MS just released the major 'Mango' update for all Windows phones. The UI is also so completely different from WM that you'll wonder if they were even made by the same company.
Turn off WIFI sleep in advanced Wifi settings....
Lets expand that to anyone who says anything positive against MS and tag them with the Borg icon, that way we can drive them out with comments and moderation. Wait, that has already happened.
A big detail you missed, that's true for Germany and Netherlands, not Australia.
This has to do with two multitouch patents that have everything to do with Android and nothing to do with Samsung. Mobile phones are also vulnerable.
http://pericles.ipaustralia.gov.au/ols/auspat/applicationDetails.do?applicationNo=2005246219
http://pericles.ipaustralia.gov.au/ols/auspat/applicationDetails.do?applicationNo=2009233675
I think Windows Defender or whatever they have by default on all machines should detect and warn about out of date Java, Flash and Reader at the minimum. Also, they should be made to auto update Chrome style by default unless turned off.