If Microsoft spent as much resources studing Windows scalability (on the scale of Google) and security (doen't even need examples), as they do analyzing Linux for their Get the Fud campaign, perhaps Longhorn will actually be a stable, secure, and scalable platform.
Of course, perhaps they *are* doing so, and Longhorn will be so good they won't need to try to reverse engineer Linux anymore, and this Lab can switch over to start looking into MacOS.
Windows pops up so many helpfully annoying popups to install their updates, even my Mom and Dad can keep their machine up-to-date with WindowsUpdate.
It's corportate policies that I think cause a lot of grief. In my previous workplace, in the name of having a "standard" windows platform, they wanted to control which patch-level all our software was at; and didn't want people to update until they had a chance to test it. Yes, indeed, this meant we stayed vulnderable to all viruses for longer than necessary; but their argument was that the corporate firewall was the place to address that.
The average employee typically would care a bit at first; and complain about the policy; but soon learned to just say fuck it; if the company wants their windows boxes to be open to viruses, why fight it.
This is in huge contrast to home machines, where people actually give a damn
OB Team99 blog comment: Now with Longhorn, all these problems will go away, because it's a secure OS.
It's conventional wisdom that Google has about 100,000 servers.
If google went with Windows 2003 Server Enterprise Edition (which
costs $3999
)
That would cost google about half a billion dollars.
Extending the logic to use SQL Server Enterprise Edition as their search database, at $25000/server
the price would go up to about $2.5 Billion.
Every CEO likes to be like Google and likes talking about numbers like billions of dollars; so this is a fun set of numbers to throw around when your're discussing microsoft partnerships with the CEO.
(Note, however, that in the true spirit of Team99, I must say that Longhorn will make it well worth the price, though, and I wouldn't be surprised to see Google switch)
"I assume you've never used IIS 6.0.... Very very secure, easily arguable moreso than apache."
You're shooting for a Funny mod, right?
The biggest "advancement" in IIS 6 is that instead of IIS 5.X that that ran 100% in user-mode, IIS 6.X runs
as a kernel module
With IIS 6, everything changes. To start with, there's a new piece of kernel mode software: Http.sys. This driver, written by Microsoft, is responsible for receiving all IIS-bound TCP/IP traffic from the TCP/IP stack. Running in kernel mode gives the new driver a huge speed advantage
Which is a cute trick for gaining performance at the expense of security (kinda like the various Linux kernel-web-servers like khttpd).
"But why would you believe that? I mean it's not like it's easy to find out.."
"Microsoft Internet Information Services (IIS) 6 with all vendor patches installed and all vendor workarounds applied, is currently affected by one or more Secunia advisories rated Moderately critical "
In contrast, Apache 2.X has the much better rating: "Apache 2.0.x with all vendor patches installed and all vendor workarounds applied, is currently affected by one or more Secunia advisories rated Less critical"
I think they realized that the CXOs and other execs who make the big decisions never read the fine print anyway; and such disclaimers will never make the headline or a large-font pull-quote in any such marketing literature, so there's no harm in being up-front about it.
Oh, and to get on the Team99-bloggers-good side, I just wanted to say that Longhorn is so stunningly awesomely good that Microsoft won't have to resort to this kind of silly FUD once longhorn is released.
And remember, that the TC0 (0 for 0wnersh1p) is lower for Windows as well (""Immunity's findings clearly show that the best platform for your targets to be running is Microsoft Windows, allowing YOU unparalleled value for THEIR dollar."). For anyone who missed it,/. had a lot of great discussion on that one from people who couldn't detect a troll.
And as a loyal Team99 hopeful, I must point out that Longhorn will be zillions of times faster than Debian Potato and Windows 2003 and windows 98 combined!
PS: Darnut, are these Veritest guys going to get a better team99 bonus than me?
Too bad it's not an effective means of karma whoring; since the theme for this troll account (Microsoft's team99 astroturfing campaign) is so ludicrous I can really only get Funny mods that don't help this account's Karma.
I might occasionally try to say something positive enough about Microsoft that it gets as many insigtfuls or informative's as it does Trolls, but I"m not holding my breath.
I think the best I can hope for is that I retain my +1 as a logged-in-user with thie Team99 parody at least as long as the Microsoft hired-trolls on the real Team99 retain theirs, so people can see what a joke both them and this account are.
Thanks for your interest and comment, though.:) If only they'd give a fraction of a karma point for funnies, I think this account would have wonderful potential as a karma-whore-example account.
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Of course, perhaps they *are* doing so, and Longhorn will be so good they won't need to try to reverse engineer Linux anymore, and this Lab can switch over to start looking into MacOS.
It's corportate policies that I think cause a lot of grief. In my previous workplace, in the name of having a "standard" windows platform, they wanted to control which patch-level all our software was at; and didn't want people to update until they had a chance to test it. Yes, indeed, this meant we stayed vulnderable to all viruses for longer than necessary; but their argument was that the corporate firewall was the place to address that.
The average employee typically would care a bit at first; and complain about the policy; but soon learned to just say fuck it; if the company wants their windows boxes to be open to viruses, why fight it.
This is in huge contrast to home machines, where people actually give a damn
OB Team99 blog comment: Now with Longhorn, all these problems will go away, because it's a secure OS.
Anyone do the math to see what that would cost.
It's conventional wisdom that Google has about 100,000 servers. If google went with Windows 2003 Server Enterprise Edition (which costs $3999 ) That would cost google about half a billion dollars.
Extending the logic to use SQL Server Enterprise Edition as their search database, at $25000/server the price would go up to about $2.5 Billion.
Every CEO likes to be like Google and likes talking about numbers like billions of dollars; so this is a fun set of numbers to throw around when your're discussing microsoft partnerships with the CEO.
(Note, however, that in the true spirit of Team99, I must say that Longhorn will make it well worth the price, though, and I wouldn't be surprised to see Google switch)
You're shooting for a Funny mod, right? The biggest "advancement" in IIS 6 is that instead of IIS 5.X that that ran 100% in user-mode, IIS 6.X runs as a kernel module
Which is a cute trick for gaining performance at the expense of security (kinda like the various Linux kernel-web-servers like khttpd)."But why would you believe that? I mean it's not like it's easy to find out.."
Indeed you are correct that it's not easy to find out. Leading security sites all report that it is NOT more secure as you allege. For example, the current rating of IIS 6report from Secunia, (one of the top couple security companies as opposed to merely your anecdotal rumor:
In contrast, Apache 2.X has the much better rating: "Apache 2.0.x with all vendor patches installed and all vendor workarounds applied, is currently affected by one or more Secunia advisories rated Less critical"I think they realized that the CXOs and other execs who make the big decisions never read the fine print anyway; and such disclaimers will never make the headline or a large-font pull-quote in any such marketing literature, so there's no harm in being up-front about it.
Even fake grass-roots efforts (astroturfing) can be done openly these days.
Oh, and to get on the Team99-bloggers-good side, I just wanted to say that Longhorn is so stunningly awesomely good that Microsoft won't have to resort to this kind of silly FUD once longhorn is released.
And remember, that the TC0 (0 for 0wnersh1p) is lower for Windows as well (""Immunity's findings clearly show that the best platform for your targets to be running is Microsoft Windows, allowing YOU unparalleled value for THEIR dollar."). For anyone who missed it, /. had a lot of great discussion on that one from people who couldn't detect a troll.
PS: Darnut, are these Veritest guys going to get a better team99 bonus than me?
Too bad it's not an effective means of karma whoring; since the theme for this troll account (Microsoft's team99 astroturfing campaign) is so ludicrous I can really only get Funny mods that don't help this account's Karma.
:) If only they'd give a fraction of a karma point for funnies, I think this account would have wonderful potential as a karma-whore-example account.
I might occasionally try to say something positive enough about Microsoft that it gets as many insigtfuls or informative's as it does Trolls, but I"m not holding my breath.
I think the best I can hope for is that I retain my +1 as a logged-in-user with thie Team99 parody at least as long as the Microsoft hired-trolls on the real Team99 retain theirs, so people can see what a joke both them and this account are.
Thanks for your interest and comment, though.
Somehow the Longhorn/Passport mechanism will handle all your secuirty needs by magic.
Of course, as an aspiring memeber of Team99 I must point out that all this will be fixed with Longhorn