EFI, it's the main difference between macs and pc's atm and it's bigger than one may suspect, the BIOS is a 20 something year old POS held together with hacks, my macbooks boot time is legendary even when booting windows, i just hit the button press down to select XP and bam the windows logo appears, none of this scrolling black text shit, no bios random issues, everything just works perfectly and reliably, it's pretty similar to open firmware, just a little less open.
I've switch many many more people to platforms other than windows through the soft sell, telling people they are an idiot for buying a pc from asda (uk version of walmart) is not going to get them to trust you to install ubuntu on it, you need to be open and talk to them about their needs and skills and determine what's best for them, this whole linux/mac/windows fanboyism that is so rampant with nerds needs to stop, otherwise people will just baulk at it and continue to use windows which we ALL don't want.
OS X is very much the user friendly version of unix, i'm skilled at useing linux/BSD and i run it on my headless boxen but everything i can do in linux i can do better/faster in OS X, unless i want to be completely customizing my OS linux is not really suitable for the desktop as OS X eclipses it in most respects, sure for those on a strict budget linux is still a good OS choice if your technically competent. but OS X is perfect for 90% of users and it has a complete open source underpinning.
It is imperative that linux is kept going, and i cant see anything killing it in the near to distant future in the server space, OS X will take a decent amount of that market from both linux and Microsoft once apple becomes more established, xserves are awesome 1U servers and are gaining marketshare fast once admins actually look at them.
OS X is not the end all OS, but it seems like the majority of linux geeks have been handed a near godly OS and they've shunned it because the UI and a few API's are proprietary, it's not perfect and it's not going to replace linux but it's a damn good OS inbetween windows and linux as it has allot of the advantages of both, apple is not going to become Microsoft, and if they did they would have to turn OS X 100% proprietary which would alienate most of their user base, being hostile to apple is completely silly.
yes, of cource i'm the flaimbait when the parent is the one with many outraged responces due to his FUD, and it's entirely my fault for pointing out that he's posting completely incorrect information
http://www.barefeats.com/bootcamp.html
OS X is faster than windows
http://www.macworld.com/2006/08/opinion/dellmacpro followup/index.php
Macs are in general cheaper or about the same price as equally configured pc's, though this is a hard thing to do if you put some work in to find a truly equally specced machine apples come out cheaper. and the argument about reliable hardware is moot, apple has not switched manufacturers, they still use asus and foxconn, they still use the same high quality pcb and they design all their own motherboards the same as before, the only difference is they order the cpu and chipset from intel instead of IBM/motorola.
Some of those things may of been true of apple 10 years ago, but people need to open their eyes and quit with the blind faith, I run OS X windows and linux and each has their advantages, to label OS X a bloated toy thats not a real option is naive.
try actually configuring an equal dell to any mac and it'll come up more or it'll have a serious disadvantage, like a laptop being 2" thick with a 45 min battery life, try acctually checking the facts before posting apple flaimbait as the mac pro and soon to be released xserve are very economic choices.
apple has always been reasonably priced they just appear expensive due to the face they don't do the low end tower which best buy flogs for $299
anyone who thinks that is ignorent, OS X on intel has been shown to run apps about 2-5% faster than windows and equally on the few apps that linux and OS X run, to think it a bloated OS is silly, OS X is a very very serious solution and it's only held back by peoples prejudice against apple and the fact it looks pretty.
I'm a mac user that uses no other M$ product, but it was the best console of it's gen if you not into japanese games and actually have friends to play with on xbox live, though this is/. so i think that part will be lost on 90% of you.
Soul caliber III was ps2 only, and some people only buy one console per gen (I had a DC, but I don't think that counts due to it's short life) and i actually prefer SC2 on the xbox to SC3 on the ps2, it's still my favorite fighting game jointly with soul caliber on my DC, which I still play, SC2 is still a very widely played xbox title for many many people like myself who cant stand fist fighting games like DOA.
SC2 is not my only gripe with BC it's also the PAL VGA adapter issues, how hard could it be to duplicate every 5th frame to turn 50Hz to 60Hz, half my XB games won't work just because I use a VGA adapter and cant switch to component with my TV.
Maybe because their are not too many good games for the 360 yet and some of up acctually have HDTV's and like anti aliasing that comes into effect while running BC titles, i have no 360 equivilent of MASHED, soul caliber, jedi academy, halo, SW:BF2 some are BC which is great some are not, this matters to allot of people, I gave my xbox away when i got a 360 due to lack of space and general kindness.
I basically worked as a tech for my school in the last two years i was their and hung around the department, i knew how things worked, the head would choose a brand and tell the system admin to "buy 10x workstations from them" or buy 2x servers or whatever, the system admin suggested buying a few linux boxes to try out and even ran linux some old pc's in the common room which were used well but the head would have none of it, he just said "the real world uses windows so that's what we'll use".
we ran windows 95 up till 2003.
my schools network is pure hell and the school is half a million quid in debt because it never works, and they refuse to hire more tech to fix it due to lack of money, ironically the staff are pro linux/mac but the stupid headteacher is a Microsoft bitch.
schools need to actually do a proper investigation into what'll actually work best rather than the idiot head teacher who's only expertise were woodshop in my case choose based on what they use at home.
this is why i have clean drives and dirty drives, if ever i got in trouble or whatever i just take the dirty drive to a friends house and put clean drives in all my computers and blame it on the open wifi network (incidentally i use MAC address filtering on my open network, thus the fact that my MAC address is linked to said articles is inconsequential seeing as a third party would change his MAC address to be identical to mine to access my network).
hell I even have a spare broken 1.8" HD i can bang into my ipod should the need arise.
unless your completely retarded it's easy as hell to think up a way so you can never be beaten in court.
and jesus fucking christ why does/. always compress whatever i write into one paragraph
i've never deleted an email, ever.
though i'd be totally screwed if someone had access to my mail box, all those password reminders after i have a sudden spout of "whats the most crazy password i can thing of"
yeah, it basically screws over anyone who cant afford the cost of patenting their idea so any wealthy git can just steal it patent it and be in the legal right.
how exactly am i the troll for pointing out how someone is completely wrong, you don't even have to do the registration, all you have to do is not connect to the internet.
"OMG, you may not mention that our pet poster-boy company is just as evil as the very very evil monopolist. You have to say "Oooooh, but in AMD's case, blah blah blah...", and since Apple's MacOS X includes mandatory activation even surpassing the invasiveness of Vista, you also have to say "Oooooh, but in Apple's case, blah blah blah..."."
OS X requires no activation, it does not even have a CD key, every retail copy is identical so it's impossible for apple to tell if you pirate it, that registration screen is mainly to set up user details such as your address book and that apple can send you crap to your email address if you neglect to check tick boxes.
what the fuck does this have to do with anything.
If you think that conroe is going into the mac pro (or whatever apple call it) you are sorely mistaken, conroe cannot be used in a two socket system, woodcrest is what goes into it. conroe will probably end up in the imac, and if you think merom is your forgetting what cpu was in the imac before yonah, yes the g5 which was about as toasty as conroe.
(yonah= core duo, conroe= core2duo, merom= core2 duo notebook version, woodcrest= conroe thats useable in a 2 socket system, aka the xeon 51xx)
i have OS X running on my AMD64 pc perfectly fine thank you very much, though i still have solaris on my sparcstation.
i'm replaceing the pc with a conroe pc or an intel based mac desktop whichever is cheaper.
no video acceleration with VM ware or any virtual boxen. commercial game oriented ports of WINE are your only option.
as for the original topic OS X pretty much invalidates linux, i'd rather have the sexy hardware/UI/softwre support any day compared to saveing 10-20% on a dell and running ubuntu on it, sure it's an ok distro i use it for my live cd of choice but why you would dump OS X for it i have no idea unless you have some analy retentive vendetta against the finder/mac UI.
because unless he plans on running 9GB games off the 20GB HD by some form of hacking magic the optical drive noise drowns out the fan noise thus the mod does not achieve much if at all.
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EFI, it's the main difference between macs and pc's atm and it's bigger than one may suspect, the BIOS is a 20 something year old POS held together with hacks, my macbooks boot time is legendary even when booting windows, i just hit the button press down to select XP and bam the windows logo appears, none of this scrolling black text shit, no bios random issues, everything just works perfectly and reliably, it's pretty similar to open firmware, just a little less open. I've switch many many more people to platforms other than windows through the soft sell, telling people they are an idiot for buying a pc from asda (uk version of walmart) is not going to get them to trust you to install ubuntu on it, you need to be open and talk to them about their needs and skills and determine what's best for them, this whole linux/mac/windows fanboyism that is so rampant with nerds needs to stop, otherwise people will just baulk at it and continue to use windows which we ALL don't want. OS X is very much the user friendly version of unix, i'm skilled at useing linux/BSD and i run it on my headless boxen but everything i can do in linux i can do better/faster in OS X, unless i want to be completely customizing my OS linux is not really suitable for the desktop as OS X eclipses it in most respects, sure for those on a strict budget linux is still a good OS choice if your technically competent. but OS X is perfect for 90% of users and it has a complete open source underpinning. It is imperative that linux is kept going, and i cant see anything killing it in the near to distant future in the server space, OS X will take a decent amount of that market from both linux and Microsoft once apple becomes more established, xserves are awesome 1U servers and are gaining marketshare fast once admins actually look at them. OS X is not the end all OS, but it seems like the majority of linux geeks have been handed a near godly OS and they've shunned it because the UI and a few API's are proprietary, it's not perfect and it's not going to replace linux but it's a damn good OS inbetween windows and linux as it has allot of the advantages of both, apple is not going to become Microsoft, and if they did they would have to turn OS X 100% proprietary which would alienate most of their user base, being hostile to apple is completely silly.
yes, of cource i'm the flaimbait when the parent is the one with many outraged responces due to his FUD, and it's entirely my fault for pointing out that he's posting completely incorrect information http://www.barefeats.com/bootcamp.html OS X is faster than windows http://www.macworld.com/2006/08/opinion/dellmacpro followup/index.php
Macs are in general cheaper or about the same price as equally configured pc's, though this is a hard thing to do if you put some work in to find a truly equally specced machine apples come out cheaper. and the argument about reliable hardware is moot, apple has not switched manufacturers, they still use asus and foxconn, they still use the same high quality pcb and they design all their own motherboards the same as before, the only difference is they order the cpu and chipset from intel instead of IBM/motorola.
Some of those things may of been true of apple 10 years ago, but people need to open their eyes and quit with the blind faith, I run OS X windows and linux and each has their advantages, to label OS X a bloated toy thats not a real option is naive.
try actually configuring an equal dell to any mac and it'll come up more or it'll have a serious disadvantage, like a laptop being 2" thick with a 45 min battery life, try acctually checking the facts before posting apple flaimbait as the mac pro and soon to be released xserve are very economic choices.
apple has always been reasonably priced they just appear expensive due to the face they don't do the low end tower which best buy flogs for $299
anyone who thinks that is ignorent, OS X on intel has been shown to run apps about 2-5% faster than windows and equally on the few apps that linux and OS X run, to think it a bloated OS is silly, OS X is a very very serious solution and it's only held back by peoples prejudice against apple and the fact it looks pretty.
I'm a mac user that uses no other M$ product, but it was the best console of it's gen if you not into japanese games and actually have friends to play with on xbox live, though this is /. so i think that part will be lost on 90% of you.
Soul caliber III was ps2 only, and some people only buy one console per gen (I had a DC, but I don't think that counts due to it's short life) and i actually prefer SC2 on the xbox to SC3 on the ps2, it's still my favorite fighting game jointly with soul caliber on my DC, which I still play, SC2 is still a very widely played xbox title for many many people like myself who cant stand fist fighting games like DOA. SC2 is not my only gripe with BC it's also the PAL VGA adapter issues, how hard could it be to duplicate every 5th frame to turn 50Hz to 60Hz, half my XB games won't work just because I use a VGA adapter and cant switch to component with my TV.
Maybe because their are not too many good games for the 360 yet and some of up acctually have HDTV's and like anti aliasing that comes into effect while running BC titles, i have no 360 equivilent of MASHED, soul caliber, jedi academy, halo, SW:BF2 some are BC which is great some are not, this matters to allot of people, I gave my xbox away when i got a 360 due to lack of space and general kindness.
seriously, microsoft should really be putting all the effort into takeing over A list unique titles, like SCII, 90% of those games suck ass.
I basically worked as a tech for my school in the last two years i was their and hung around the department, i knew how things worked, the head would choose a brand and tell the system admin to "buy 10x workstations from them" or buy 2x servers or whatever, the system admin suggested buying a few linux boxes to try out and even ran linux some old pc's in the common room which were used well but the head would have none of it, he just said "the real world uses windows so that's what we'll use". we ran windows 95 up till 2003.
my schools network is pure hell and the school is half a million quid in debt because it never works, and they refuse to hire more tech to fix it due to lack of money, ironically the staff are pro linux/mac but the stupid headteacher is a Microsoft bitch.
schools need to actually do a proper investigation into what'll actually work best rather than the idiot head teacher who's only expertise were woodshop in my case choose based on what they use at home.
this is why i have clean drives and dirty drives, if ever i got in trouble or whatever i just take the dirty drive to a friends house and put clean drives in all my computers and blame it on the open wifi network (incidentally i use MAC address filtering on my open network, thus the fact that my MAC address is linked to said articles is inconsequential seeing as a third party would change his MAC address to be identical to mine to access my network). hell I even have a spare broken 1.8" HD i can bang into my ipod should the need arise. unless your completely retarded it's easy as hell to think up a way so you can never be beaten in court. and jesus fucking christ why does /. always compress whatever i write into one paragraph
i've never deleted an email, ever. though i'd be totally screwed if someone had access to my mail box, all those password reminders after i have a sudden spout of "whats the most crazy password i can thing of"
yeah, it basically screws over anyone who cant afford the cost of patenting their idea so any wealthy git can just steal it patent it and be in the legal right.
how exactly am i the troll for pointing out how someone is completely wrong, you don't even have to do the registration, all you have to do is not connect to the internet.
"OMG, you may not mention that our pet poster-boy company is just as evil as the very very evil monopolist. You have to say "Oooooh, but in AMD's case, blah blah blah ...", and since Apple's MacOS X includes mandatory activation even surpassing the invasiveness of Vista, you also have to say "Oooooh, but in Apple's case, blah blah blah ..."."
OS X requires no activation, it does not even have a CD key, every retail copy is identical so it's impossible for apple to tell if you pirate it, that registration screen is mainly to set up user details such as your address book and that apple can send you crap to your email address if you neglect to check tick boxes.
what the fuck does this have to do with anything.
they won't, sony won't put this in the ps3, they virtually created blu ray, why support the competitor.
If you think that conroe is going into the mac pro (or whatever apple call it) you are sorely mistaken, conroe cannot be used in a two socket system, woodcrest is what goes into it. conroe will probably end up in the imac, and if you think merom is your forgetting what cpu was in the imac before yonah, yes the g5 which was about as toasty as conroe. (yonah= core duo, conroe= core2duo, merom= core2 duo notebook version, woodcrest= conroe thats useable in a 2 socket system, aka the xeon 51xx)
watch how sales of HD or blu ray only players plummet, this is fantastic news.
or wait for this http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/XGP psp without the crap.
i have OS X running on my AMD64 pc perfectly fine thank you very much, though i still have solaris on my sparcstation. i'm replaceing the pc with a conroe pc or an intel based mac desktop whichever is cheaper.
for me it's work done per $ and i'm way faster with OS X, everything you can do with linux you can do as well if not better with OS X
no video acceleration with VM ware or any virtual boxen. commercial game oriented ports of WINE are your only option. as for the original topic OS X pretty much invalidates linux, i'd rather have the sexy hardware/UI/softwre support any day compared to saveing 10-20% on a dell and running ubuntu on it, sure it's an ok distro i use it for my live cd of choice but why you would dump OS X for it i have no idea unless you have some analy retentive vendetta against the finder/mac UI.
i'd love to have a laptop with like gma 950 but something like an x900XTX in a docking bay. but only if it ran OS X and was not butt ugly
because unless he plans on running 9GB games off the 20GB HD by some form of hacking magic the optical drive noise drowns out the fan noise thus the mod does not achieve much if at all.
ironically the nosiest part of the 360 is the optical drive.