Wow! Coming from an expert, that must be a compliment. My analogy stands as we are talking about an unknown third party probing your mail server without your permission. The poster I responded to narrowed that focus. I re-expanded it to the subject being discussed in the thread.
Some students got mad, but the moral of the story is, better to have someone trustworthy find your weakness rather than someone who's going to exploit it.
Sometime in the next week or so, I am going to stop by your home and probe for any security problems that a burglar might exploit. I know we have never met before but its in your best interests. Since I have the best of intentions, I am sure you won't mind. You wouldn't want to leave your home with security holes in it?
First, the author of this article is an idiot. He was running an open relay. He admits it and doesn't even know it. Just another reason to be annoyed by lawyers. Second, the folks that run these various RBL lists are arrogant jackasses. Just look at the childish behavior they exibit. Very unprofessional.
If they make a mistake, you and your organization are screwed until they decide to admit their mistake and correct it -- if they ever do. They have cute, pat answers to explain away any responsibility for their behavior and generally refuse to communicate with those they block. I have had a nasty experience recently with "relays.osirusoft.com" where a client of our was using them as a part of their Postfix RBL configuration. Some Nazi^H^H^H^H German nominated our mail server as a spamhaus when we were not. Without being tested, our server was blacklisted -- I checked my logs and saw no check on the date we were listed. We received no notice, no automated robot checked out server or would anyone respond to my inquiries, just accusations that I was supporting SPAM--an absolute lie. If you are listed, you have to be an evil SPAM supporter with their mentality.
It took one month of constantly e-mailing their retest e-mail address. Daily checking of my mail logs and seeing that their robot was being rejected from relaying, yet, we were not taken off the RBL. Finally, after a month, we were removed. Nothing changed in our configuration, no notice was given as to why we were removed nor why we were added outside of the nomination origin. We were just lucky that "relays.osirusoft.com" decided to do what's right but was too cowardly to admit they were wrong. Hiding behind the anonymity of the Internet with no responsibility to the people they harm. We will never know how many e-mail messages were lost because of "relays.osirusoft.com"'s mistake.
Now that Star Wars is nothing more than a marketing tool for crappy fast food meals and stupid action figures, it doesn't surprise me that they are going to go "IMAX" to boost the take of AotC so "My Fat Greek Wedding" (A far better movie) won't beat it at the box office this year. Yes, "My Fat Greek Wedding" is better than Star Wars: Attack of the Clones.
That said, this affects everyone. Mind you, I'm told that Palladium will always be able to be shut off via the BIOS, so you can always buy a Palladium-enabled processor and make it act as if it isn't. That's not the problem, really.
Those of us that run PPC and Mac OS X do not have this problem. Apple and Steve Jobs have publically said that piracy is not a technology issue but a social issue that cannot be resolved with encryption. So while you are worrying about Palladium, I am getting the maximum value out of my Mac and my iPod.
Don't steal music! -- Steve Jobs, as seen on all iPods as its "DRM" system.
Yes, a state job is more secure and it is not easy to get fired, but speeking for the department I work in, we take pride in our work
Wish your attitude was more common in the civil service.
I'm not saying all civil service employees are idiots but a far larger percentage of them are compared to the private sector. Since Government doesn't have to produce a profit or even stick to a budget, the incentive for managers to motivate employees to peak performance is next to nil.
Amtrak is a great example of a Government run business. Completely inefficient, full of fraud, nothing works and is bleeding money left and right.
If you don't want to judged on your work performance and get away with all sorts of employment misconduct, by all means, take a civil service job. Its almost impossible to fire a Government employee compared to an employee in the private sector. That's why Government is completely inefficient (idiots survive easily) and why President G.W. Bush does not want typical civil servants running the Homeland Security Department.
Um, I think we're going in circles here. The constitution explicitly states that there exist rights not enumerated there -- that's what I said at the beginning of this thread.
So we have the "Right to Free Ice Cream", the "Right to live in a neighborhood without 'those kinds of people' moving in" and the "Right to Sit in the Middle of Street". Of course not. Nor do we have the right to use other people's property without their permission for our personal business. The reason you think we have gone around in circles is that you are trying to use the 9th Amendment to grant yourself the right to steal from your employer and declare it "My Privacy!". That was never the intention of the 9th Amendment as stated by Justice Goldberg ruling I listed before.
Article 12 of the Universal Declaration of Human Rights:
"No one shall be subjected to arbitrary interference with his privacy, family, home or correspondence, nor to attacks upon his honour and reputation. Everyone has the right to the protection of the law against such interference or attacks."
Excuse me, but I do not live under the United Nations, I live under the United States. I respect its Constitution not the UN.
I know the laws are not based on this
(someone enlighten me why) - but doesn't
the protection against unreasonable
searches/seizures implies exactly a kind
of right to privacy?
No. That only relates to your relationship with the Government not business. There is nothing in the Constitution that protects your privacy at work. If you don't believe me, utilize your 1st Amendment right to free speech at work by running around screaming the dreaded "N Word". See how long you keep your job and how loud the Judge will laugh at you when you file suit against your employer for "violating your civil rights".
Of course not. But there are rights which dictate how someone can treat you when you work for them.
Name one listed in the Constitution with full text and explanation. The problem you have is that you think the US Constitution relates to all things. It does not. The US Constitution only relates to the relationship between citizens and Government--limiting the power of Government for the most part. It has nothing to do with the relationship between employers and employees. Those are laws not rights. Two different things.
If this is a problem for you, QUIT! No one is pointing a gun to your head and forcing you to do this. You something called FREEDOM. Use it. It sounds like you have no clue as to how to negociate an employment contract because if you did, you would not bitch about this.
There is constitutional right to have your employer to kiss your ass and take care of you.
The fourth amendment which states the rights of people to be secure in their persons, houses, papers and effects.
If you wanted to sum it all up in a few words, "right to privacy" is what that amendment is all about. But don't let the fact get in the way of a good rant.:)
So that gives you a "Right to Privacy" at your work site? I don't think so. Good try though. There is no blanket right that covers your privacy like speech.
It's not a very optional choice for most people. Like I said elsewhere, what you seem to support is "democracy on your own time" -- and feudalism at work. If you're happy with that arrangement, that's fine, but I don't see why we should be.
No one is pointing a gun at your head and telling you to work for someone so it is 100% voluntary. If you want "democracy" during business hours, start your own business. There is no right that forces someone else to give you a job or income.
The 9th amendment -- for some reason, people who want to restrict the rights of US citizens seem to conveniently forget that one. Here it is:
With your reading of the 9th, I could decide to do anything I want, at anytime as long as I don't tread on the Civil Rights of others such as keep animals in inhumane conditions on purpose. Not true. Justice Goldberg says it for me:
"Moreover, a judicial construction that this fundamental right is not protected by the Constitution because it is not mentioned in explicit terms by one of the first eight amendments or elsewhere in the Constitution would violate the Ninth Amendment. . . . Nor do I mean to state that the Ninth Amendment constitutes an independent source of right protected from infringement by either the States or the Federal Government. Rather, the Ninth Amendment shows a belief of the Constitution's authors that fundamental rights exist that are not expressly enumerated in the first eight amendments and an intent that the list of rights included there not be deemed exhaustive.''
There's my right -- and yours --to an adequate standard of health, to be looked after after a life of contributing to society, and yes, to pursue happiness. Oh, and of course, to live like a free human being, not a corporate slave, even when I'm at work.
Working is a choice. If you do not wish to be forced an employer to do certain things, don't work for them. Its their equipment, bandwidth and electricity. They determine how it will be used.
And what's the big deal here? You are at work. You are being paid to do what your employer wants (within the law). You do not have the right to use your employer's equipment for personal business unless you get permission. If you don't like your employers policy, quit.
There is no such thing as a "right to privacy" in the United States. Check out the Constitution and the Bill of Rights. You won't find find it along with other "rights" people say they have like, 'right to free health care', 'right to Social Security' and the often touted, 'right to party!!!'.
Good point! I scares me that more storage is starting to mean less long term data integrity. I have been thinking about long term data stability for a while. I do a ton of digital photography. Its backed up on CDs and stored on an IBM hard drive. Its photos I want to share with my Grandkids when they show up. My Grandparents old photos survived the years on paper. Will my gigabytes of photos survive for my Grandchildren?
I still have 5 1/4 floppys that were formated in 1982 that work on an old Apple ][ but I am sure they can't last another 5 years in storage. Are we just in a constant race against the degrading of our storage medium? Constantly pushing data from one standard to another? Paper seems to be a hell of a lot better long term storage medium than magnetic media.
How dare Thomson and the Fraunhofer Gesellschaft try to extract value from their patents. Don't they understand that information wants to be free and that patents are nothing more than brain theft? Shame! Shame! Shame! Write your Congressman, Senator and Media Outlet and demand your right to RIP your friend's cousin's step-sister's husband's CD collection without having to pay a fee to the patent holders of the MP3 format. If we are going to exercise our right to screw record companies, we cannot do it with the end of the barrel of a 75 cent gun pointed at us by the evil, corrupt thieves that are Thomson and the Fraunhofer Gesellschaft.
I would write more but there is a Toonami marathon on Cartoon Central and by God you will have to take my anime from cold, dead fingers! Now which sugar filled energy drink will I consume during cartoons^H^H^H^H^H^H^H anime?
RedHat's default install is not the one I use, ever. However, if I want to install GNU/Linux on a computer, I use RedHat. Reason? I can pop in a Net Install floppy, boot the box, and choose a mirror site for Redhat. About an hour later, I have the basic building block on the server I need. I do this both for x86 and Alpha -- never need to remember to bring software. A couple of trips to RPMFind.Net, a tweek of rc3.d and an update -u...that's it. You have a functional, decent performance server for your need...NFS, Samba, AppleTalkIP, HTTPD, WebDAV, FTP, POP3, SMTP, RTSP, X11, etc. Just go nuts tightning down the default install and you have a box that can stay up 365+, no problem.
RedHat has good name recognition for a reason, they make getting Linux on your box simple. I am sure you can on and on again about your favorite distro and you will have valid points. I just love quick and simple net installs--free of charge--Microsoft ain't never gonna do that for me!!!
Sexist I know, but evey trade convention I go to for geeks, its the booths with the best bunnies that get the most bang for the buck. T-Shirts are also a great method of marketing.
Those work well...if you have a good product.
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Wow! Coming from an expert, that must be a compliment. My analogy stands as we are talking about an unknown third party probing your mail server without your permission. The poster I responded to narrowed that focus. I re-expanded it to the subject being discussed in the thread.
Now grow up, child. Take the insults elsewhere.
Sometime in the next week or so, I am going to stop by your home and probe for any security problems that a burglar might exploit. I know we have never met before but its in your best interests. Since I have the best of intentions, I am sure you won't mind. You wouldn't want to leave your home with security holes in it?
If they make a mistake, you and your organization are screwed until they decide to admit their mistake and correct it -- if they ever do. They have cute, pat answers to explain away any responsibility for their behavior and generally refuse to communicate with those they block. I have had a nasty experience recently with "relays.osirusoft.com" where a client of our was using them as a part of their Postfix RBL configuration. Some Nazi^H^H^H^H German nominated our mail server as a spamhaus when we were not. Without being tested, our server was blacklisted -- I checked my logs and saw no check on the date we were listed. We received no notice, no automated robot checked out server or would anyone respond to my inquiries, just accusations that I was supporting SPAM--an absolute lie. If you are listed, you have to be an evil SPAM supporter with their mentality.
It took one month of constantly e-mailing their retest e-mail address. Daily checking of my mail logs and seeing that their robot was being rejected from relaying, yet, we were not taken off the RBL. Finally, after a month, we were removed. Nothing changed in our configuration, no notice was given as to why we were removed nor why we were added outside of the nomination origin. We were just lucky that "relays.osirusoft.com" decided to do what's right but was too cowardly to admit they were wrong. Hiding behind the anonymity of the Internet with no responsibility to the people they harm. We will never know how many e-mail messages were lost because of "relays.osirusoft.com"'s mistake.
Pathetic.
Yea, yea, someone else corrected me as well. :) Its the first chick flick I ever liked. I am still in shock.
The only marketing in "My Fat Greek Wedding" was the constant plugging of Windex which is one product you rarely see "placed" in a film.
Now that Star Wars is nothing more than a marketing tool for crappy fast food meals and stupid action figures, it doesn't surprise me that they are going to go "IMAX" to boost the take of AotC so "My Fat Greek Wedding" (A far better movie) won't beat it at the box office this year. Yes, "My Fat Greek Wedding" is better than Star Wars: Attack of the Clones.
Those of us that run PPC and Mac OS X do not have this problem. Apple and Steve Jobs have publically said that piracy is not a technology issue but a social issue that cannot be resolved with encryption. So while you are worrying about Palladium, I am getting the maximum value out of my Mac and my iPod.
Don't steal music! -- Steve Jobs, as seen on all iPods as its "DRM" system.
Wrong!!!
Wish your attitude was more common in the civil service.
I'm not saying all civil service employees are idiots but a far larger percentage of them are compared to the private sector. Since Government doesn't have to produce a profit or even stick to a budget, the incentive for managers to motivate employees to peak performance is next to nil.
Amtrak is a great example of a Government run business. Completely inefficient, full of fraud, nothing works and is bleeding money left and right.
If you don't want to judged on your work performance and get away with all sorts of employment misconduct, by all means, take a civil service job. Its almost impossible to fire a Government employee compared to an employee in the private sector. That's why Government is completely inefficient (idiots survive easily) and why President G.W. Bush does not want typical civil servants running the Homeland Security Department.
So we have the "Right to Free Ice Cream", the "Right to live in a neighborhood without 'those kinds of people' moving in" and the "Right to Sit in the Middle of Street". Of course not. Nor do we have the right to use other people's property without their permission for our personal business. The reason you think we have gone around in circles is that you are trying to use the 9th Amendment to grant yourself the right to steal from your employer and declare it "My Privacy!". That was never the intention of the 9th Amendment as stated by Justice Goldberg ruling I listed before.
Excuse me, but I do not live under the United Nations, I live under the United States. I respect its Constitution not the UN.
No. That only relates to your relationship with the Government not business. There is nothing in the Constitution that protects your privacy at work. If you don't believe me, utilize your 1st Amendment right to free speech at work by running around screaming the dreaded "N Word". See how long you keep your job and how loud the Judge will laugh at you when you file suit against your employer for "violating your civil rights".
From Government intrusion not from corporate monitoring on corporate property. Big difference.
Name one listed in the Constitution with full text and explanation. The problem you have is that you think the US Constitution relates to all things. It does not. The US Constitution only relates to the relationship between citizens and Government--limiting the power of Government for the most part. It has nothing to do with the relationship between employers and employees. Those are laws not rights. Two different things.
There is constitutional right to have your employer to kiss your ass and take care of you.
So that gives you a "Right to Privacy" at your work site? I don't think so. Good try though. There is no blanket right that covers your privacy like speech.
No one is pointing a gun at your head and telling you to work for someone so it is 100% voluntary. If you want "democracy" during business hours, start your own business. There is no right that forces someone else to give you a job or income.
With your reading of the 9th, I could decide to do anything I want, at anytime as long as I don't tread on the Civil Rights of others such as keep animals in inhumane conditions on purpose. Not true. Justice Goldberg says it for me:
There's my right -- and yours --to an adequate standard of health, to be looked after after a life of contributing to society, and yes, to pursue happiness. Oh, and of course, to live like a free human being, not a corporate slave, even when I'm at work.
Working is a choice. If you do not wish to be forced an employer to do certain things, don't work for them. Its their equipment, bandwidth and electricity. They determine how it will be used.
There is no such thing as a "right to privacy" in the United States. Check out the Constitution and the Bill of Rights. You won't find find it along with other "rights" people say they have like, 'right to free health care', 'right to Social Security' and the often touted, 'right to party!!!'.
I still have 5 1/4 floppys that were formated in 1982 that work on an old Apple ][ but I am sure they can't last another 5 years in storage. Are we just in a constant race against the degrading of our storage medium? Constantly pushing data from one standard to another? Paper seems to be a hell of a lot better long term storage medium than magnetic media.
I would write more but there is a Toonami marathon on Cartoon Central and by God you will have to take my anime from cold, dead fingers! Now which sugar filled energy drink will I consume during cartoons^H^H^H^H^H^H^H anime?
RedHat has good name recognition for a reason, they make getting Linux on your box simple. I am sure you can on and on again about your favorite distro and you will have valid points. I just love quick and simple net installs--free of charge--Microsoft ain't never gonna do that for me!!!
Those work well...if you have a good product.
Do you know of any Perl modules that might assist Slashdot editor's from posting duplicate articles over and over again -- even within a six hour time period?