The "truest" form of hip hop is that of story telling. The emphasis is on the lyrical tones, the dynamic use of words, the play of sounds. Hip hop is not about the "benjamins." Hip hop is a culture founded on the four pillars, b-boying, mc-ing, dj-ing, and graffiti. All are forms of self expression. The problem with people like Puff Daddy is that they promote a sick fantasy, one most people will never live. Originally (and still in the underground hip hop of today), the mc would rap around something everyone could relate to: Racism, predjudice, poverty, happiness, love, humor, etc. The best mcs of hip hop have something to say, and will say it well.
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Seems like a lot of you guys are kinda scared by hip hop, having to revert to stereotypes and humor, instead of perhaps discussing something that could be somewhat interesting to talk about. Lots of people make fun of the crap they see on MTV. It should be made fun of, because it's soulless and empty, with nothing new to say. It's pop hip hop, boring and uninteresting. Hip hop (in its truest form) is about self expression, about doing _your_ thing, and adding your voice to a community of creativity. Puff Daddy and all the other shit you laugh about is POP MUSIC. My grandmother could display more artistic creativity than him. But there are many artists who display originality, even poetry in their rapping. An oppressed people created hip hop, as a way to gain control over their situation and reenfranchise themselves. Sounds kinda like linux... The thing is that true hip hop and linux are about the individual and gaining power back over your situation. Rapping on the corner about racism in the face of society, or coding late at night in the face of monolithic software companies. Hip hop is about giving a voice to those who had none. Linux lets people have a voice and a choice. In the end, any argument for or against is kinda mute. It's kinda silly to compare an OS culture to a sub-culture, but it might make for some interesting discussion. Maybe think next time before you write some ignorant shit about hip hop not being music. I'm glad I never got into glam rock, and instead found hip hop (and later techno).
Someone above noted that one major reason institutions of higher education might oppose services like Versity and the other note-taking sites is that they are in effect opening their class rooms to anyone with a web connection.
This doesn't really matter though, in terms of any loss of prestige for that institution. I could be going to Podunk U., reading notes from Uptight and Ivy, maybe gaining insights that a student at that "prestigious" college is getting. But its degrees employers look at, and I still have a degree from Podunk U., so the Uptight and Ivy "brand" is not diluted or harmed in any way...
This sort of behavior from some leading institutions is rather depressing, since it only reinforces my feeling that perhaps many colleges are just trying to make a quick buck on you.
These note services are also no substitution for going to class, but if you miss class one day and don't know anybody to get the notes from, or you might have a quiz or something and you need the notes, there's no reason you shouldn't be able to logon and get the notes you would have had anyway. And I would think that professors would be glad to be able to spread what they know to anyone interested in learning...
Just my two cents, MadProfessor (nope, I'm not a professor in real-life, the name just has a nice ring to it;)
This is a great article. Its hard to find any outlet or author willing to write about a subject _any_ person might find offensive. This sort of dialogue actually helps win us (the individuals) greater freedom. The main point of Mr. Katz's article, it seems, is that the discussion of ideas can hurt noone. We should not feel obligated to skirt an issue if the possibility of (gasp!) offending someone. Personally, I would have a tough time deciding whether or not I would terminate a fetus that is terminally ill or massively deformed in some way. I _should_ have the choice, because this fetus is my responsibility. Our society was founded on rights and responsibilities that balance each other. I should have many rights, but also the responsibilities of using my rights in an ethical manner.
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The "truest" form of hip hop is that of story telling. The emphasis is on the lyrical tones, the dynamic use of words, the play of sounds. Hip hop is not about the "benjamins." Hip hop is a culture founded on the four pillars, b-boying, mc-ing, dj-ing, and graffiti. All are forms of self expression.
The problem with people like Puff Daddy is that they promote a sick fantasy, one most people will never live. Originally (and still in the underground hip hop of today), the mc would rap around something everyone could relate to:
Racism, predjudice, poverty, happiness, love, humor, etc. The best mcs of hip hop have something to say, and will say it well.
Seems like a lot of you guys are kinda scared by hip hop, having to revert to stereotypes and humor, instead of perhaps discussing something that could be somewhat interesting to talk about.
Lots of people make fun of the crap they see on MTV. It should be made fun of, because it's soulless and empty, with nothing new to say. It's pop hip hop, boring and uninteresting.
Hip hop (in its truest form) is about self expression, about doing _your_ thing, and adding your voice to a community of creativity. Puff Daddy and all the other shit you laugh about is POP MUSIC. My grandmother could display more artistic creativity than him. But there are many artists who display originality, even poetry in their rapping. An oppressed people created hip hop, as a way to gain control over their situation and reenfranchise themselves. Sounds kinda like linux...
The thing is that true hip hop and linux are about the individual and gaining power back over your situation. Rapping on the corner about racism in the face of society, or coding late at night in the face of monolithic software companies. Hip hop is about giving a voice to those who had none. Linux lets people have a voice and a choice.
In the end, any argument for or against is kinda mute. It's kinda silly to compare an OS culture to a sub-culture, but it might make for some interesting discussion. Maybe think next time before you write some ignorant shit about hip hop not being music. I'm glad I never got into glam rock, and instead found hip hop (and later techno).
Thanks for reading this rant...
Someone above noted that one major reason institutions of higher education might oppose services like Versity and the other note-taking sites is that they are in effect opening their class rooms to anyone with a web connection.
This doesn't really matter though, in terms of any loss of prestige for that institution. I could be going to Podunk U., reading notes from Uptight and Ivy, maybe gaining insights that a student at that "prestigious" college is getting. But its degrees employers look at, and I still have a degree from Podunk U., so the Uptight and Ivy "brand" is not diluted or harmed in any way...
This sort of behavior from some leading institutions is rather depressing, since it only reinforces my feeling that perhaps many colleges are just trying to make a quick buck on you.
These note services are also no substitution for going to class, but if you miss class one day and don't know anybody to get the notes from, or you might have a quiz or something and you need the notes, there's no reason you shouldn't be able to logon and get the notes you would have had anyway. And I would think that professors would be glad to be able to spread what they know to anyone interested in learning...
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Just my two cents,
MadProfessor
(nope, I'm not a professor in real-life,
the name just has a nice ring to it
This is a great article. Its hard to find any outlet or author willing to write about a subject _any_ person might find offensive. This sort of dialogue actually helps win us (the individuals) greater freedom. The main point of Mr. Katz's article, it seems, is that the discussion of ideas can hurt noone. We should not feel obligated to skirt an issue if the possibility of (gasp!) offending someone. Personally, I would have a tough time deciding whether or not I would terminate a fetus that is terminally ill or massively deformed in some way. I _should_ have the choice, because this fetus is my responsibility. Our society was founded on rights and responsibilities that balance each other. I should have many rights, but also the responsibilities of using my rights in an ethical manner.