Oh, BTW, there has never been anything like a "secret military shuttle" (you simply can't hide anything like that in space).
Again, what makes you geeks think you're privy to the governments' secret goings on? I mean, they hid the Manhattan Project for *years*.
One of the reasons why they were able to keep it secret was because they didn't periodically flight over 100,000 kg of hardware in plain daylight over all the biggest cities of the world. Which is what every Shuttle mission does.
Please pull your head out of your arse
I'm sorry but I don't think I can (mostly because it's not where my head is).
realise there are probably numerous *secret* programs going on *right now* that you don't know about, because they are being conducted in *secret*
I'm aware that if something is secret, then I probably don't know about its existence. My point is that there are things that nobody can keep secret with current or near-future technology.
Isn't space meant to be like demilitarized zone or something?
Yes, the Outer Space Treaty prohibits military bases, any kind of weapon tests and the permanent placement of WMD anywhere outside the Earth's atmosphere (nuclear ICBMs are OK as long as they stay in space only temporary on their way to their destination).
But the article (and even more so the summary) is mostly sensationalist crap: the real news here is that they are doing a test of the small and unmannedBoeing X-37B technology demonstrator. But I guess yet another engineering step in a slow technology development program doesn't sound as much as newsworthy for people that are not in this kind of thing.
Oh, BTW, there has never been anything like a "secret military shuttle" (you simply can't hide anything like that in space). There where a few NASA Shuttle missions in the 80s dedicated to the deployment of military satellites, but the DoD has for a very long time launched its payloads on Atlas and Delta rockets. If something is broken, it's much chepear to simply launch a new one that to mount a risky STS maintenance mission (and the Shuttle can't reach most of the orbits used by military satellites). So this has absolutely nothing to do with the planned STS retirement in 2010.
* Google is really bad for Silicon Valley. Too much of the top talent in the area is now working for Google, doing almost completely useless stuff, and it's not healthy for the industry. I predict that when Google comes crashing down (and it will - anyone who has seen the ridiculous excess of the Google campus cannot help but realize this)
So I guess they didn't accept your job application, uh?
Don't forget to also check out the others Joss' current works:
Dollhouse, a TV series that will start on January 2009 (but there will be pirated episodes on TPB probably much sooner); enjoy the trailer and an interview;
the BtVS season 8; I'm not a comic book person, but this is incredibly awesome! Guess who Buffy is sleeping with now?;-)
This guy is feminist, pro-gay and atheist: he should run for POTUS!
The Jules Verne used the remainder of its unused docking fuel to raise ISS less than 5 km, and that one time kick that cannot be counted on to be there every time. It's not a "one time kick", it's simply the first of four scheduled re-boost manoeuvres (yes, all four of them will be performed by JV). And it was deliberately small to keep the ISS low enough to be easily reached by the orbiter with Kibo.
It's not "unused docking fuel", the ATV was designed to perform big reboosts for the ISS.
I agree with a few of your points, but:
The dirty little secret about ISS is that at full mass and max solar array deployment upon completion, this thing is going to deorbit even faster from atmospheric drag than it is now and no way can Progress or Jules Verne is keep the completed assembly reboosted - only the Shuttle could. WTF? An ATV can give to the ISS a bigger dV than the Shuttle, especially if you consider all the propellant for the boosters on the Zvezda module that an ATV can bring and the STS doesn't.
But I agree that the downmass capability of the Shuttle (or something equivalent) would be useful even after 2010.
Nobody even knows anymore how much ISS costs anymore because of crooked accounting hiding the drawing of funds from everywhere within NASA, but nobody argues it's at least $100 billion dollars. This is an often-cited figure, because it's a nice round number, but it's for the whole project from 1990 to 2017 and including all the activities on Earth. IMHO it's money well-spent for 27 of engineering and science (yes, I know, we are just getting started with science, give them the opportunity to demonstrated its value after the station is completed).
You surely can save money on the purely scientific part of the ISS by removing the human presence. If you are fine with the possibility of humanity never leaving his cradle.
But the ISS is not only about science, it's also about engineering and learning how to live for long periods off the world (the MIR was pioneer, but its design and MO would be too dangerous to use beyond Earth's orbit). The next target will be the Moon and then probably Mars, but we had to learn how to walk before we can run.
Now if they're only watching the thing bounce around randomly on its own, and it happens to be in synch with its paired photon - I'm not sure how useful that could be. Not very useful for what you have in mind: even with funny quantum mechanics tricks you still can't transmit information faster than light.
Coverage of science news on slashdot is very often crappy, but we see the worst when it comes to space news.
would give the much-derided ISS a stab at doing some decent science for a change.
"For a change"?!?! Where the hell are you getting your informations about the science done on the ISS? On Fox News? There is *a lot* of science done on the ISS: literally hundreds of small, medium and big experiments have already been completed and the rate is increasing now with the European and Japanese labs on board and will increase even more starting next year with crews of six people.
Sure it would be nice to do even more, and sure the costs are high (in part due to the STS, a nice but incredibly inefficient LV), but all this group-thinking about the "white elephant" ISS is akin to saying that kernel programming is easy. It's stupid, flat wrong and insulting for the people that get a lot of good work and science done.
the Church trial of Galileo stems from a misunderstanding between Urban VIII and Galileo
Oh, it was only a misunderstanding! Then I'm really sorry, you are completely right. I promise I'll convert to christianity first thing tomorrow morning!
the Church opposes anti-racism laws similar to proposed "hate crime" [...] where's the tolerance, people?
The law we are talking about in Italy outlaws instigation to commit violence and stalking, not "statement of fact about beliefs" (unless you believe and say that all lesbians must be killed or something). Is this something that we should instead tolerate?
i am not familiar with the Vatican's opposition to a donation by the Italian government to a children's hospital, but if that situation is as misconstrued and slanted as the rest of your leftist, socialist, atheist screed, you've probably distorted that out of shape as well.
Unfortunately it's true: here's a detailed article about this and a lot of similar shit, written on "La Repubblica", the biggest (or second-biggest, depending on the day) Italian newspaper. The article is written in Italian, if you don't know it try some free online translators, they'll probably do an half-decent job on it.
And one last thing: TELLING SOMEONE HE/SHE'S AN ATHEIST, IS NOT AN INSULT. You have to do better than that; try something like this: I don't have an immaginary friend, I'm smarter than you are.
THIS IS BULLSHIT! The Italian Minister of the Interior, Giuliano Amato, explicitly said that the decision was NOT forced by any security consideration.
There was no violence, only a strong pacific protest. You cannot mark as fascists people that disagree with you, expecially if they are fighting for freedom, science and equal rights.
The connection between religion (even in times past) and the flat earth is hugely exaggerated.
Maybe. But the Bible was written by people conviced that the Earth was flat. It's never said explicitly (why say something so "obvious", after all), but it's implicit in a number of passages, e.g.: "[T]he devil taketh him up into an exceeding high mountain, and sheweth him all the kingdoms of the world, and the glory of them" (Matthew 4:1-12). How can you see the whole Earth from a high mountain if it's spherical? There's something very similar also in Daniel 4:10-11. And let's not speak about the "four corners of the Earth" (Isaiah 11:12, and a lot of other places: I can probably find a dozen or so of "corners" and "edges" of the Earth in the whole Bible).
please stop propagating factless myths.
Please read the Bible. The whole thing. Sorry but it's really that bad.
Since you're presenting the bible is "wrong" without qualifiers and without reference, and I know you wouldn't want me to take you on faith...
It's clear that I was speaking about the fact the the Earth is not flat and the center of the universe, but now that you mention it, there are a lot of place where the Bible is inconsistent, factually and/or morally (IMNSHO) wrong.
Have you an example verse that is not open to metaphorical interpretation and uncontingent on present-day constructs of Geometry you'd like to present for discussion?
You mean like this one: "If a man have a stubborn and rebellious son... Then shall his father and his mother... bring him out unto the elders of his city... And all the men of his city shall stone him with stones, that he die." -- Deuteronomy 21:18-21
Killing stubborn children is a metaphor for what exactly? And if you think this is funny I can find dozen more examples of this shit, in both the old and the new testament, since I have actually read the whole bible from cover to cover, something that most christians don't do, apparently.
did you notice how the scientists played it so that he couldn't win? [...] it seems that they believe that their ideas can only stand if they suppress competing ideas.
You're wrong: this professor and a lot of professors and students asked the cancellation of the invitation to the Pope from the university chancellor to speak without a debate. The invitation wasn't cancelled at all, and now they're trying to portait the Pope as a victim (successfully, judging from a number of apologist comments even here on/.), which is why the professor is complaing.
And they didn't suppress his ideas at all: on the contrary they have on Italian media much, much more space than science, other religions and atheism combined togheter. We see the Pope every day on almost every Italian TV channel, sometimes for hours without interruptions! They simply asked that the university do not give implicit scientific legitimacy to his extremist ideas without a debate, at the most important ceremony of the year!
If you don't live in Italy you may not understand how strong is the offensive from the Vatican against women, gays, lesbians, science, atheists and pretty much anyone who doesn't bow. Please read my previous comment about this. This IS NOT ABOUT RELIGION: is about money, power and the violated rights of actual people in Italy and elsewhere.
You're wrong: he and a lot of professors and students asked the cancellation of the invitation to the Pope from the university chancellor to speak at the most important ceremony of the year without a debate. The invitation wasn't cancelled at all, and now they're trying to portait the Pope as a victim (successfully judging from a number of apologist comments even here on/.), which is why he's complaing.
If you don't live in Italy you may not understand how strong is the offensive from the Vatican against women, gays, lesbians, science, atheists and pretty much anyone who doesn't bow. Please read my previous comment about this. This IS NOT ABOUT RELIGION: is about money, power and the violated right of actual people in Italy and elsewhere.
Oh come on - the Pope is a figure of universal acceptance and love.
No he's not. Far from it, very far. Read my previous comment about him and the Vatican. You really need to investigate more what's going on in this dispute before making apologist comments.
Sorry but your are wrong: no one has "shout down" the Pope. He owns a newspaper and a radio, and he's the politician that we see more than anyone else in TV here in Italy, even more than Silvio Berlusconi that owns half of the Italians TV stations.
Yes the Pope acts exactly like a politician in Italy: he tell which laws should be passed or not, or changed, for whom to vote and sometimes even tell people not to go voting, like in a recent referendum. And it's far from nice and good: the Vatican opposes (successfully, thanks to corrupt politician) the right of women, gays and lesbians, is opposing right now an anti-racism law (you read it right: they aren't opposing racism, they are trying to shout down an anti-racism law) and they even opposed a donation from Italy to a children hospital (they didn't oppose the use of the same budget money for the war in Iraq a few years ago), because they want to have the exclusive of charity in the minds of the Italians (the stupid ones, at least) so they get more donations.
And we already know exactly what he was going to say: that abortion is murder, even if it's a simple embryo one day from the fertilisation. And abortion must be completely illegal (in Italy we have a very sensible and balanced abortion law, that has reduced to less than half the number of abortions from when it was completely illegal and all abortions were clandestine, and saved countless women). I know this because I see him every day on every television news always saying the same things, and insulting women, gays, scientists and atheists.
Well he's free to says what the hell he wants, but scientists are also free to not invite him to say those things in a university. He can say the same thing but not in my home. This isn't censorship!
And the Earth is not flat. It's approximately spherical! And it goes around the Sun, not vice versa. I don't care what the Pope says about it: Galileo Galilei was right and the Bible is wrong!
I agree, but not only because there are so many people pirating, but simply because this is the right thing to do. It's not about pirating or saving a few bucks: one of the primary reasons for the existence of nations is to contribute to the diffusion and development of culture (I live in Italy and here we have this clearly written in one of the first articles of our constitution; the proposed European constitution says pretty much the same thing).
Copyright was established as a state-created monopoly, for a limited time, to encourage the creation and diffusion of artistic works. Not to guarantee an endless stream of money to the MAFIAA lawyers. It's pretty clear that the creation and diffusion of art, music, movies, books, etc. is doing pretty well today (probably better than any other period in human history!) despite, and sometimes thanks to, the huge diffusion of filesharing and piracy.
So there's no need to outlaw it. It's that simple: copyright isn't a law of nature, it was accepted as a compromise to achieve an end and can be changed if necessary.
The problem has nothing to do with salt, and can be certainly temporarily "fixed" switching to SHA-1 or, even better, SHA-2. But the real root of the problem here is that, for the attack to work, someone signed as trusted a binary file that contained malicious code in the first place, even if in a disable form.
Let me explain that. First, this is very old news: we know since 2004 that collision can be found in MD5 hashes (two different files with the same md5sum), and there now are tools that can generate collisions in seconds. All you need is a common prefix and suffix for both files and two block of 128 bytes that are generated automatically and you can insert between the prefix and the suffix to create the two files.
Applying this to pretty much any file type that can contain binary data (even XML 1.1!) is trivial. For an executable file you can simply insert code in your prefix/suffix that looks at the pseudo-random 128 bytes and does radically different things depending on it. This as already been demonstrated for HTML+JS and even for postscript files.
Bottom line: if you have an executable file from an untrusted source it may contain bad things (the attack described requires that both the original signed file and the file that you are actually executing are generated by the same hostile source).
A short summary of the missions, all extremely interesting:
Laplace. To study the Jovian system (three orbiters, one entirely dedicated to Europa!) in collaboration with NASA.
Tandem. To study the Saturnian-Titanian-Enceladusian environment (orbiter+carrier with a balloon and 3 probes to Titan) in colaboration with NASA.
Marco Polo. Sample return mission from an asteroid (à la Hayabusa) with orbiter+lander, sampler and return capsule; in collaboration with JAXA.
Dune/SPACE. Two proposed missions to study dark matter and dark energy.
Plato. Extrasolar planets detector, capable of detecting rocky planets.
Spica. Infrared telescope with wide field of analysis, spectroscopy and coronograph; in collaboration with JAXA.
XEUS. X-ray telescope to study extreme environments from L2 halo orbit, consisting on a mirror satellite and a detector satellite flying in formation.
Cross-Scale. Proposed to employ 12 spacecraft, would make simultaneous measurements of plasma - the gas of charged particles surrounding Earth - on different scales at shocks, reconnection sites, and turbulent regions in near-Earth space.
[thanks to eeergo from NSF for the short list]
At least one of the first two (Laplace or Tandem) will almost certainly be selected, the second one approved will probably be an astronomy mission (i.e. observation of objects outside of the solar system).
I have been buying nVidia video cards for forever for their... let's say less bad support for GNU/Linux and I recomended them to my Windows-using friends.
But this changes everything: from now on I know that I can buy ATI cards and be sure that they'll work and have good software support.
Thanks AMD, thanks ATI: you have made a new loyal customer today.
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Oh, BTW, there has never been anything like a "secret military shuttle" (you simply can't hide anything like that in space).
Again, what makes you geeks think you're privy to the governments' secret goings on? I mean, they hid the Manhattan Project for *years*.
One of the reasons why they were able to keep it secret was because they didn't periodically flight over 100,000 kg of hardware in plain daylight over all the biggest cities of the world. Which is what every Shuttle mission does.
Please pull your head out of your arse
I'm sorry but I don't think I can (mostly because it's not where my head is).
realise there are probably numerous *secret* programs going on *right now* that you don't know about, because they are being conducted in *secret*
I'm aware that if something is secret, then I probably don't know about its existence. My point is that there are things that nobody can keep secret with current or near-future technology.
Isn't space meant to be like demilitarized zone or something?
Yes, the Outer Space Treaty prohibits military bases, any kind of weapon tests and the permanent placement of WMD anywhere outside the Earth's atmosphere (nuclear ICBMs are OK as long as they stay in space only temporary on their way to their destination).
But the article (and even more so the summary) is mostly sensationalist crap: the real news here is that they are doing a test of the small and unmanned Boeing X-37B technology demonstrator. But I guess yet another engineering step in a slow technology development program doesn't sound as much as newsworthy for people that are not in this kind of thing.
Oh, BTW, there has never been anything like a "secret military shuttle" (you simply can't hide anything like that in space). There where a few NASA Shuttle missions in the 80s dedicated to the deployment of military satellites, but the DoD has for a very long time launched its payloads on Atlas and Delta rockets. If something is broken, it's much chepear to simply launch a new one that to mount a risky STS maintenance mission (and the Shuttle can't reach most of the orbits used by military satellites). So this has absolutely nothing to do with the planned STS retirement in 2010.
* Google is really bad for Silicon Valley. Too much of the top talent in the area is now working for Google, doing almost completely useless stuff, and it's not healthy for the industry. I predict that when Google comes crashing down (and it will - anyone who has seen the ridiculous excess of the Google campus cannot help but realize this)
So I guess they didn't accept your job application, uh?
Don't forget to also check out the others Joss' current works:
This guy is feminist, pro-gay and atheist: he should run for POTUS!
But evolution also isn't science.
I have never done this before, but this time is really necessary.
You're a complete idiot.
Hope this comment may help you exit from your religion and become an half-decent human being.
It's not "unused docking fuel", the ATV was designed to perform big reboosts for the ISS.
But the ISS is not only about science, it's also about engineering and learning how to live for long periods off the world (the MIR was pioneer, but its design and MO would be too dangerous to use beyond Earth's orbit). The next target will be the Moon and then probably Mars, but we had to learn how to walk before we can run.
Sure it would be nice to do even more, and sure the costs are high (in part due to the STS, a nice but incredibly inefficient LV), but all this group-thinking about the "white elephant" ISS is akin to saying that kernel programming is easy. It's stupid, flat wrong and insulting for the people that get a lot of good work and science done.
Joss Whedon, Dollhouse.
Unfortunately it's true: here's a detailed article about this and a lot of similar shit, written on "La Repubblica", the biggest (or second-biggest, depending on the day) Italian newspaper. The article is written in Italian, if you don't know it try some free online translators, they'll probably do an half-decent job on it.
And one last thing: TELLING SOMEONE HE/SHE'S AN ATHEIST, IS NOT AN INSULT. You have to do better than that; try something like this: I don't have an immaginary friend, I'm smarter than you are.
THIS IS BULLSHIT! The Italian Minister of the Interior, Giuliano Amato, explicitly said that the decision was NOT forced by any security consideration.
There was no violence, only a strong pacific protest. You cannot mark as fascists people that disagree with you, expecially if they are fighting for freedom, science and equal rights.
You mean like this one: "If a man have a stubborn and rebellious son ... Then shall his father and his mother ... bring him out unto the elders of his city ... And all the men of his city shall stone him with stones, that he die." -- Deuteronomy 21:18-21
Killing stubborn children is a metaphor for what exactly? And if you think this is funny I can find dozen more examples of this shit, in both the old and the new testament, since I have actually read the whole bible from cover to cover, something that most christians don't do, apparently.
You're wrong: this professor and a lot of professors and students asked the cancellation of the invitation to the Pope from the university chancellor to speak without a debate. The invitation wasn't cancelled at all, and now they're trying to portait the Pope as a victim (successfully, judging from a number of apologist comments even here on /.), which is why the professor is complaing.
And they didn't suppress his ideas at all: on the contrary they have on Italian media much, much more space than science, other religions and atheism combined togheter. We see the Pope every day on almost every Italian TV channel, sometimes for hours without interruptions! They simply asked that the university do not give implicit scientific legitimacy to his extremist ideas without a debate, at the most important ceremony of the year!
If you don't live in Italy you may not understand how strong is the offensive from the Vatican against women, gays, lesbians, science, atheists and pretty much anyone who doesn't bow. Please read my previous comment about this. This IS NOT ABOUT RELIGION: is about money, power and the violated rights of actual people in Italy and elsewhere.
You're wrong: he and a lot of professors and students asked the cancellation of the invitation to the Pope from the university chancellor to speak at the most important ceremony of the year without a debate. The invitation wasn't cancelled at all, and now they're trying to portait the Pope as a victim (successfully judging from a number of apologist comments even here on /.), which is why he's complaing.
If you don't live in Italy you may not understand how strong is the offensive from the Vatican against women, gays, lesbians, science, atheists and pretty much anyone who doesn't bow. Please read my previous comment about this. This IS NOT ABOUT RELIGION: is about money, power and the violated right of actual people in Italy and elsewhere.
Sorry but your are wrong: no one has "shout down" the Pope. He owns a newspaper and a radio, and he's the politician that we see more than anyone else in TV here in Italy, even more than Silvio Berlusconi that owns half of the Italians TV stations.
Yes the Pope acts exactly like a politician in Italy: he tell which laws should be passed or not, or changed, for whom to vote and sometimes even tell people not to go voting, like in a recent referendum. And it's far from nice and good: the Vatican opposes (successfully, thanks to corrupt politician) the right of women, gays and lesbians, is opposing right now an anti-racism law (you read it right: they aren't opposing racism, they are trying to shout down an anti-racism law) and they even opposed a donation from Italy to a children hospital (they didn't oppose the use of the same budget money for the war in Iraq a few years ago), because they want to have the exclusive of charity in the minds of the Italians (the stupid ones, at least) so they get more donations.
And we already know exactly what he was going to say: that abortion is murder, even if it's a simple embryo one day from the fertilisation. And abortion must be completely illegal (in Italy we have a very sensible and balanced abortion law, that has reduced to less than half the number of abortions from when it was completely illegal and all abortions were clandestine, and saved countless women). I know this because I see him every day on every television news always saying the same things, and insulting women, gays, scientists and atheists.
Well he's free to says what the hell he wants, but scientists are also free to not invite him to say those things in a university. He can say the same thing but not in my home. This isn't censorship!
And the Earth is not flat. It's approximately spherical! And it goes around the Sun, not vice versa. I don't care what the Pope says about it: Galileo Galilei was right and the Bible is wrong!
I agree, but not only because there are so many people pirating, but simply because this is the right thing to do. It's not about pirating or saving a few bucks: one of the primary reasons for the existence of nations is to contribute to the diffusion and development of culture (I live in Italy and here we have this clearly written in one of the first articles of our constitution; the proposed European constitution says pretty much the same thing).
Copyright was established as a state-created monopoly, for a limited time, to encourage the creation and diffusion of artistic works. Not to guarantee an endless stream of money to the MAFIAA lawyers. It's pretty clear that the creation and diffusion of art, music, movies, books, etc. is doing pretty well today (probably better than any other period in human history!) despite, and sometimes thanks to, the huge diffusion of filesharing and piracy.
So there's no need to outlaw it. It's that simple: copyright isn't a law of nature, it was accepted as a compromise to achieve an end and can be changed if necessary.
The problem has nothing to do with salt, and can be certainly temporarily "fixed" switching to SHA-1 or, even better, SHA-2. But the real root of the problem here is that, for the attack to work, someone signed as trusted a binary file that contained malicious code in the first place, even if in a disable form.
Let me explain that. First, this is very old news: we know since 2004 that collision can be found in MD5 hashes (two different files with the same md5sum), and there now are tools that can generate collisions in seconds. All you need is a common prefix and suffix for both files and two block of 128 bytes that are generated automatically and you can insert between the prefix and the suffix to create the two files.
Applying this to pretty much any file type that can contain binary data (even XML 1.1!) is trivial. For an executable file you can simply insert code in your prefix/suffix that looks at the pseudo-random 128 bytes and does radically different things depending on it. This as already been demonstrated for HTML+JS and even for postscript files.
Bottom line: if you have an executable file from an untrusted source it may contain bad things (the attack described requires that both the original signed file and the file that you are actually executing are generated by the same hostile source).
When you encounter a problem you fix it, it's that simple.
Remember: "The perfect is the enemy of the good." -- Voltaire
- Laplace. To study the Jovian system (three orbiters, one entirely dedicated to Europa!) in collaboration with NASA.
- Tandem. To study the Saturnian-Titanian-Enceladusian environment (orbiter+carrier with a balloon and 3 probes to Titan) in colaboration with NASA.
- Marco Polo. Sample return mission from an asteroid (à la Hayabusa) with orbiter+lander, sampler and return capsule; in collaboration with JAXA.
- Dune/SPACE. Two proposed missions to study dark matter and dark energy.
- Plato. Extrasolar planets detector, capable of detecting rocky planets.
- Spica. Infrared telescope with wide field of analysis, spectroscopy and coronograph; in collaboration with JAXA.
- XEUS. X-ray telescope to study extreme environments from L2 halo orbit, consisting on a mirror satellite and a detector satellite flying in formation.
- Cross-Scale. Proposed to employ 12 spacecraft, would make simultaneous measurements of plasma - the gas of charged particles surrounding Earth - on different scales at shocks, reconnection sites, and turbulent regions in near-Earth space.
[thanks to eeergo from NSF for the short list]At least one of the first two (Laplace or Tandem) will almost certainly be selected, the second one approved will probably be an astronomy mission (i.e. observation of objects outside of the solar system).
I have been buying nVidia video cards for forever for their... let's say less bad support for GNU/Linux and I recomended them to my Windows-using friends. But this changes everything: from now on I know that I can buy ATI cards and be sure that they'll work and have good software support. Thanks AMD, thanks ATI: you have made a new loyal customer today.