cisco is not responsible for policing the net, nor is it legally able to interpret law, and has no power whatsoever to enforce it. this seems to be pure vigilantism at best , and no different from actions of a criminal gang at worst. let legitimate law enforcement do their job following due process. if they are behind the times that a function of freedom and speed of progress.
should any one trust cisco? same that allows and cooperates with the illegal surveillance by nsa etc?
researchers Tao Xie and colleagues from State Key Laboratory of Chemical Engineering in Hangzhou, China. these things should be mentioned in post above (and usually are in other posts here). oversight?
the curious thing about uk bill is that is is explicit in its intrusive powers. western govs, in past and at present, have been getting these same companies to do what they want without such explicit powers. they makes a fuss only when all these are publicly exposed. but are quite corporative privately.
members who sign up should document everything about their experience related to project and especially difficulties they encounter, and their motivations. then make them publicly available. that way when members fall off, and this probably fails, future planners of this sort of thing can learn.
btw there are have been similar successful 'projects' in past; some of european colonization, cossack settlement in russia, some 19th century nationalist(actually pretty racist germen settlements in south america) etc etc
let me guess you live and love usa country that kills and rapes children. such moral bankruptcy and corruption explains your irrationality when faced with facts
seismic activity was confirmed by usgs (a 5.1 magnitude earthquake in the vicinity of a known Pyongyang nuclear site) before nk announcement actually .
generally speaking while nk uses grandiloquent propagandist language, they don't lie about actual events like this.
"one of the world's most... dangerous states" well yes one of. the most dangerous state is usa, the country that invades others , supports coups, run torture camps,drone kill children , spy on everyone, etc etc, lala in order to loot resources of others. it also has a history of genocidal land grabs, ethnic cleansings , worst form of slavery very late, use of nuclear weapons etc etc present north korea , indeed is a horrible state , but nowhere near usa morally.
existence of bad poetry does not invalidate my argument that limitations of form (some times quite arbitrary as in sonnets , haiku , etc ) concentrates and enhances power of expression. same with twitter limit.
twitter is giving up essential part of what makes twitter successful. limitations of form concentrates the minds and enhances the power and effect of content. that is why (usually, not always, it is true) poetry is greater than prose and a play or movie with time limits will beat up a mutipart tv drama, etc etc.
stuxnet was typical short sighted policy from usa/isreali establishment. they should have known that such weapons do more damage to the more technologically advanced nations than those less advanced. now suffer the consequences of there being no longer a moral high ground for anyone in west(which being democratic means sins of government cannot be transfered to few dictators/elite) with regard to these. all things allowed.
this is becoming an habit with firefox. doing the popular and easy thing, however dubious, instead of correct and proper thing, however difficult, freedom is undermined more often by laziness, not outright villainy
you may cry and tag all you want, but that last marine reserve created by uk government in order to carry out a blatant human rights violation is relevant to this creation. btw if you read slashdot it is known for making these types of connections about related stories in its posts. except it seems, when it comes to facts about westersn crimes and human rights violations. westerners do not want to face facts that their freely elected governments are engaging in ethnic cleansing, and child rapes and killings, etc etc, to keep their lazy lifestyles intact.
i do watch it . it is bit left wing (and even sometimes unbiased) when it comes to domestic british politics. hence it sometimes does what you describe against current tory government. but when it comes to foreign countries and individuals, bbc is pure state propaganda, and toe the foreign office line.
curious that no mention is made on main post or in news article (from state owned propagandist bbc) about the other marine reserve same uk government created in 2010 in indian ocean.
the chagos marine protected area gave usa freedom to use diego garcia (even allowing environmental damage if caused by military use) while just on time to conveniently prevent original inhabitants of the area (forcibly removed by same genocidal british empire, in one of many such actions) from resettling. a right they have long last legally won.
just another case of western media (mainstream and so called new/social/whatever) turning a deliberate blind eye to facts that make western voters uncomfortable. same voters who freely elect same human rights violating governments(in worse ways than anybody, repeat anybody, else ) under worst mass murderers of 21 century, like obama, cameron, blair, hollade , clintons, bush, etc,
when somebody refer to governments of China, Saudi, Iran, Russia(not to mention India), but fails to refer to equally bad governments of (which run torture camps, drone children in the neighborhood when some cave man terrorists opposing invasions and coups explodes bombs, spy on everyone, imprison whistle blowers, all in order to loot other's resources ) , in the same connection, one has to be skeptical about that person's biases and knowledge as well as intelligence.
after all what kind of person forgets which governments run torture camps, carry out invasions and support coups, drone children in the neighborhood when some cave man terrorists opposing same invasions and coups explodes bombs, spy on everyone, imprison whistle blowers, etc etc (all done in order to loot other's resources)?
the linked article i am referring to is techdirt one, which is the source of main post (as highlighted even in the title bar). denying such obvious facts is not smart. and indicates defeat in argument . thanks.
1/ perhaps you should study logic, before making arguments. 2/ it is a bad habit to drop one line of arguments and launch another without acknowledging defeat in the 1st lines(involving length and alleged analogies) 3/ i did not bring up individuals, you did . see above.
4/ number of companies allegedly working on a product does not have much to do with product's success or failure, or alleged need for product, any more than amount of money thrown at it, alleged analogies with other product developments, length of development, etc etc
would have done better to quote the play(one of my favorites). if you did, you will see that the article linked is not relevant to it and giving devil the benefit of the law. google is not denied justice in a legal process. quite the contrary . it is the moralistic defense of google in a public forum, using weak & hypocritical arguments that i objected to.
that apple cheats on taxes is not surprising, current apple is built on deception. it charges for products well in excess of their costs( all costs, including design and development) and gets away with it due to marketing hype, and idiocy of the consumers, and failure of the media to check and reveal facts
some points since you seem to be confused. there are successful products and unsuccessful products. success does not depend on whether a product fits MY(your shouting echoed), or any one individual's, needs and ideas. it is absurd to hope for eventual success of a product based on alleged analogies with alleged history of development and alleged past criticism of a successful product. nor does success have much to do with length of development. glass's main functions are already developed, only incremental enhancements awaits it. it failed in the main concept.
publisher may be making weak (rather than wrong) argument, but anyone defending almighty goog (you know the company that is suing others for patent and copyright infringements, spying on behalf of bloody western governments, abusing market power to crush rivals, censoring all sorts of stuff, doing evil while claiming to do no evil, etc etc) is simply wrong.
"only fails one specific use case"?! phone is equivalent and comparable to glass, in your... eyes? if what you say is true, glass would be successful product already. it isn't and wont be.
really?! seems throwing money at product development seems to make developers ever more blind to the obvious defects in the whole concept of this device.
everyone will use things with internal computing power with some trivial connectivity to do things that they anyway did (perhaps more inefficiently) before. that is not the same thing as people having control over these things to do what they want as they want it.
to have a connected intelligent preference sensitive gym equipment or washing machine is great, but without some "glowing display" or equivalent we can have very little easy active control over it . while "glowing display" may be "too limiting", removing full interactive control is much more limiting.
Slashdot Mirror
cisco is not responsible for policing the net, nor is it legally able to interpret law, and has no power whatsoever to enforce it. this seems to be pure vigilantism at best , and no different from actions of a criminal gang at worst.
let legitimate law enforcement do their job following due process. if they are behind the times that a function of freedom and speed of progress.
should any one trust cisco? same that allows and cooperates with the illegal surveillance by nsa etc?
researchers Tao Xie and colleagues from State Key Laboratory of Chemical Engineering in Hangzhou, China.
these things should be mentioned in post above (and usually are in other posts here).
oversight?
the curious thing about uk bill is that is is explicit in its intrusive powers. western govs, in past and at present, have been getting these same companies to do what they want without such explicit powers.
they makes a fuss only when all these are publicly exposed. but are quite corporative privately.
members who sign up should document everything about their experience related to project and especially difficulties they encounter, and their motivations.
then make them publicly available. that way when members fall off, and this probably fails, future planners of this sort of thing can learn.
btw there are have been similar successful 'projects' in past; some of european colonization, cossack settlement in russia, some 19th century nationalist(actually pretty racist germen settlements in south america) etc etc
let me guess you live and love usa country that kills and rapes children. such moral bankruptcy and corruption explains your irrationality when faced with facts
seismic activity was confirmed by usgs (a 5.1 magnitude earthquake in the vicinity of a known Pyongyang nuclear site) before nk announcement actually .
generally speaking while nk uses grandiloquent propagandist language, they don't lie about actual events like this.
"one of the world's most ... dangerous states" ,drone kill children , spy on everyone, etc etc, lala in order to loot resources of others. it also has a history of genocidal land grabs, ethnic cleansings , worst form of slavery very late, use of nuclear weapons etc etc
well yes one of.
the most dangerous state is usa, the country that invades others , supports coups, run torture camps
present north korea , indeed is a horrible state , but nowhere near usa morally.
existence of bad poetry does not invalidate my argument that limitations of form (some times quite arbitrary as in sonnets , haiku , etc ) concentrates and enhances power of expression.
same with twitter limit.
twitter is giving up essential part of what makes twitter successful.
limitations of form concentrates the minds and enhances the power and effect of content.
that is why (usually, not always, it is true) poetry is greater than prose and a play or movie with time limits will beat up a mutipart tv drama, etc etc.
stuxnet was typical short sighted policy from usa/isreali establishment. they should have known that such weapons do more damage to the more technologically advanced nations than those less advanced.
now suffer the consequences of there being no longer a moral high ground for anyone in west(which being democratic means sins of government cannot be transfered to few dictators/elite) with regard to these. all things allowed.
this is becoming an habit with firefox. doing the popular and easy thing, however dubious, instead of correct and proper thing, however difficult,
freedom is undermined more often by laziness, not outright villainy
you may cry and tag all you want, but that last marine reserve created by uk government in order to carry out a blatant human rights violation is relevant to this creation.
btw if you read slashdot it is known for making these types of connections about related stories in its posts. except it seems, when it comes to facts about westersn crimes and human rights violations.
westerners do not want to face facts that their freely elected governments are engaging in ethnic cleansing, and child rapes and killings, etc etc, to keep their lazy lifestyles intact.
i do watch it . it is bit left wing (and even sometimes unbiased) when it comes to domestic british politics. hence it sometimes does what you describe against current tory government.
but when it comes to foreign countries and individuals, bbc is pure state propaganda, and toe the foreign office line.
curious that no mention is made on main post or in news article (from state owned propagandist bbc) about the other marine reserve same uk government created in 2010 in indian ocean.
the chagos marine protected area gave usa freedom to use diego garcia (even allowing environmental damage if caused by military use) while just on time to conveniently prevent original inhabitants of the area (forcibly removed by same genocidal british empire, in one of many such actions) from resettling. a right they have long last legally won.
just another case of western media (mainstream and so called new/social/whatever) turning a deliberate blind eye to facts that make western voters uncomfortable. same voters who freely elect same human rights violating governments(in worse ways than anybody, repeat anybody, else ) under worst mass murderers of 21 century, like obama, cameron, blair, hollade , clintons, bush, etc,
when somebody refer to governments of China, Saudi, Iran, Russia(not to mention India), but fails to refer to equally bad governments of (which run torture camps, drone children in the neighborhood when some cave man terrorists opposing invasions and coups explodes bombs, spy on everyone, imprison whistle blowers, all in order to loot other's resources ) , in the same connection, one has to be skeptical about that person's biases and knowledge as well as intelligence.
after all what kind of person forgets which governments run torture camps, carry out invasions and support coups, drone children in the neighborhood when some cave man terrorists opposing same invasions and coups explodes bombs, spy on everyone, imprison whistle blowers, etc etc (all done in order to loot other's resources)?
the linked article i am referring to is techdirt one, which is the source of main post (as highlighted even in the title bar).
denying such obvious facts is not smart. and indicates defeat in argument . thanks.
1/ perhaps you should study logic, before making arguments.
2/ it is a bad habit to drop one line of arguments and launch another without acknowledging defeat in the 1st lines(involving length and alleged analogies)
3/ i did not bring up individuals, you did . see above.
4/ number of companies allegedly working on a product does not have much to do with product's success or failure, or alleged need for product, any more than amount of money thrown at it, alleged analogies with other product developments, length of development, etc etc
would have done better to quote the play(one of my favorites).
if you did, you will see that the article linked is not relevant to it and giving devil the benefit of the law. google is not denied justice in a legal process. quite the contrary .
it is the moralistic defense of google in a public forum, using weak & hypocritical arguments that i objected to.
no one is defending Google.
did you read the linked article it explicitly defends google.
that apple cheats on taxes is not surprising, current apple is built on deception.
it charges for products well in excess of their costs( all costs, including design and development) and gets away with it due to marketing hype, and idiocy of the consumers, and failure of the media to check and reveal facts
some points since you seem to be confused.
there are successful products and unsuccessful products.
success does not depend on whether a product fits MY(your shouting echoed), or any one individual's, needs and ideas.
it is absurd to hope for eventual success of a product based on alleged analogies with alleged history of development and alleged past criticism of a successful product.
nor does success have much to do with length of development.
glass's main functions are already developed, only incremental enhancements awaits it. it failed in the main concept.
publisher may be making weak (rather than wrong) argument, but anyone defending almighty goog (you know the company that is suing others for patent and copyright infringements, spying on behalf of bloody western governments, abusing market power to crush rivals, censoring all sorts of stuff, doing evil while claiming to do no evil, etc etc) is simply wrong.
"only fails one specific use case"?! ... eyes?
phone is equivalent and comparable to glass, in your
if what you say is true, glass would be successful product already. it isn't and wont be.
really?! seems throwing money at product development seems to make developers ever more blind to the obvious defects in the whole concept of this device.
everyone will use things with internal computing power with some trivial connectivity to do things that they anyway did (perhaps more inefficiently) before.
that is not the same thing as people having control over these things to do what they want as they want it.
to have a connected intelligent preference sensitive gym equipment or washing machine is great, but without some "glowing display" or equivalent we can have very little easy active control over it . while "glowing display" may be "too limiting", removing full interactive control is much more limiting.