I'm not a GPL expert but isn't there an except if you access things through standardized APIs, e.g. an HTTP call... Then the server handling your HTTP request isn't subject to GPL, right?
Now, AFAIK WordPress plugins are written in PHP, so source is already available... It may not be GPL, but that you can change, without serious implications... If you WordPress plugin uses proprietary php modules (native code) I doubt that you're distributing it, so GPL is not a problem...
This may have implications for theme designers as they cannot sell a theme more than once... But maybe they shouldn't do that either! And yes, they may still sell themes... Even without releasing them afterwards, I think GPL allows contract work (without it constituting distribution)...
Disclaimer: I'm not a lawyer... I'm a slashdot reader:)
True, so true...
Disclaimer: I'm from Europe... ...but I have a hard time not laughing when watching Fox News... First time I thought it was a parody:)
Its not that they are journalists but how is it that nobody in the actual industry ever goes back and calls people on what they said 6 months ago?
Hmm... AFAIK it's quite common that serious reporters ask politicians about what they said before the election, and how they're acting now... Often with clips from before the election:)
How about giving them loans for training which are paid back as part of their salary once they've secured a job?
And then people can't change job... Or they'll have to pay the loan themselves... Who would want it then ?
- I doubt six months training is cheap...
Slightly off-topic but I never understand why you Americans are so willing to take huge loans so early in your life, just to get into college...
I'm fairly happy with my free education and educational support (about 1000 USD / month). I've just finished fourth semester computer science, don't live at home or receive financial support from my parents and haven't got any debt.
With net neutrality you only have one option for internet access: untampered internet.
Without net neutrality you have to choose your place of residence based on ISP availability:)
- Which is not going to happen... Arguments not necessary:)
It's simply not profitable for multiple ISPs to deliver internet to the same residence...
Here in Denmark, power supply companies decided to dig up half the country to bury fiber cables... This is nice, and they provide great cheap service and fast internet, but EVERY single company doing this failing because they're competing against copper cables that have already been paid for...
Last I heard one of the fiber networks were being bought up, by big copper cable network owner...
"No [ISP] can block... legitimate use conducted through the Internet."
Anybody else see the problem here?
No... Do you seriously expect net neutrality laws to state that ISPs may not block illegal activities ?
If so, wouldn't it make more sense to make the illegal activities legal...
Note: I don't see how you can define p2p services as illegal, lot of legitimate content is distributed using p2p... If that's what you're worried about..
All this talk about how cars can almost drive themselves, the air can be almost clean and cars almost doesn't need gasoline anymore... Makes me think, what if we just put down iron rails, put power in the rails and a computer run the cars...
- Yes, it's impossible... because... and... But the technology for clean and safe transport is there just use it!
Hmm...
I suppose we should buy up.xxx domains matching our current domains and/or name and make them redirect...
That might be pretty fun too... Or maybe just really creepy... Can't decide which it is...
Is SkypeKit ‘open’? What will you restrict?
The topic of openness is often debated and its definition can mean different things to different people. For starters, we believe in an open Internet and open standards. We are adopting an open approach meaning we are releasing APIs and enabling others to use SkypeKit and apply it in new ways. But, SkypeKit won’t be opened up to every single use case that developers dream up. For example, our license terms prohibit using SkypeKit for gambling or adult-themed applications.
Think of SkypeKit as a "headless" version of Skype – that is, a Skype client with no user interface that runs invisibly.
How is this even remotely close to open ? As far as I can see it's still just a binary blob!
Is it just SHOUTcast directory listing that they don't integrate with anymore?
And if so, why? How can you set distribution license on software that only uses your service ?
or are they using some code from AOL/Nullsoft, in which case why didn't they just rewrite it ?
okay, that's amazing... I hope you have a local copy of wikipedia...
I can't imagine high school without internet, let alone university... When searching for new information on a topic I easily download a few hundrede megabytes in pdfs alone...
I agree with GP, in what places on earth, apart from what I assume is a farm in the middle of the desert in Australia, is quotas an issue ?:)
I've seen 10 GiB qoutas on 3G here (Denmark)... But who would survive on 3G only, I'd admit I haven't tried it, but I can't imagine that it's stable or fast (yes, it might give you 5Mb/s on a sunny day, but what about ping times...
I have 5Mb/s down for about 25 USD/month no quotas... Looking a gnome-system-monitor I downloaded 2.1 GiB over the past two hours or so... Internet radio/last.fm, youtube and random stuff...
If I look at my provider I can get 50Mb/s for about 80 USD/month, still no quotas... However, my ISP doesn't give me much up-speed... But my parents have fiber in their door, they can get 100Mb/s up and down for a quite reasonable price...
This is Denmark, and no you can probably not move here:(
- Sorry...
But since some idiots voted for the Danish Public Party (National Socialist) immigration have become very hard... Maybe, if you marry someone older than 24, or find a job, have a good education and is willing to learn Danish...
Otherwise, try Sweden their immigration policy is not as hard, and their internet connections are better... Plus their privacy is better protected against organizations such as **AA...
Hmm... I supposed the only thing wrong with Sweden is their alcohol taxes, so remember to bring you own beer:)
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I think GPs point is that we do the same thing... The only difference is the definition of "state approved".
(An important definition, but still we also limit freedom of speech).
Do you know if any Intergrated Development Environments that generates SVG + Javascript... Inkscape is probably what comes closest, and Inkscape is good, but it's not anywhere near as good as the Flash tools for making interactive content...
Anybody, even knows of serious projects trying to create an HTML5/SVG/javascript IDE ?
I think this is the real problem... It's all developers, developers, developers...
In Queensland schools, creationism will be offered for discussion in the subject of ancient history, under the topic of "controversies".
And this is exactly where creationism belongs! It's a part of our culture and religion, and should be taught as such...
Creationism is a great example when discussion scientific methods, history and how new controversial discoveries was acknowledged...
Offtopic: I was just about to state that I couldn't see how this is new worthy... Then I realized, that it is news, just not bad news... It's sad to realize that I come to a point where happy stories are no longer news worthy.
Once you get the first car to stop, and have build up a nice traffic jam behind you, it's not really that dangerous... But the honking might be a bit annoying, remember to bring your mp3 player...
Anyway this is just one of those, only in America stories...
like thats going to make any difference when half the users can't see the difference between win 9x and win 7...
Seriously, my mom didn't see the difference:)
Indeed, this situation really threatens Wikipedia's standing as non-bias (specifically, censorship-free) and open, at least among those who didn't already know better. Could this be the straw that breaks Wikipedia?
No... It might hurt your feelings if you hold Wikipedia to be a divine entity... However, wikipedia is a made up of Humans, and AFAIK we're pretty good to fail...
That doesn't mean that wikipedia can't correct it.. It's not as if, Wikipedia is suddenly starting to support censorship all over the line... Just that maybe Wales, didn't think his every move fully through... Or that Fox will say what ever the **** they think will make people continue to watch their show...
By the way, to say that wikipedia is in chaos, based on a statement from a single unnamed source... is bad press ethics... Seriously do we even want to discuss something that low...
I'm not a GPL expert but isn't there an except if you access things through standardized APIs, e.g. an HTTP call... Then the server handling your HTTP request isn't subject to GPL, right?
:)
Now, AFAIK WordPress plugins are written in PHP, so source is already available... It may not be GPL, but that you can change, without serious implications... If you WordPress plugin uses proprietary php modules (native code) I doubt that you're distributing it, so GPL is not a problem...
This may have implications for theme designers as they cannot sell a theme more than once... But maybe they shouldn't do that either! And yes, they may still sell themes... Even without releasing them afterwards, I think GPL allows contract work (without it constituting distribution)...
Disclaimer: I'm not a lawyer... I'm a slashdot reader
Maybe they did, getting sued by Apple great advertising... :)
True, so true...
...but I have a hard time not laughing when watching Fox News... First time I thought it was a parody :)
Disclaimer: I'm from Europe...
Its not that they are journalists but how is it that nobody in the actual industry ever goes back and calls people on what they said 6 months ago?
Hmm... AFAIK it's quite common that serious reporters ask politicians about what they said before the election, and how they're acting now... Often with clips from before the election :)
How about giving them loans for training which are paid back as part of their salary once they've secured a job?
And then people can't change job... Or they'll have to pay the loan themselves... Who would want it then ?
- I doubt six months training is cheap...
Slightly off-topic but I never understand why you Americans are so willing to take huge loans so early in your life, just to get into college...
I'm fairly happy with my free education and educational support (about 1000 USD / month). I've just finished fourth semester computer science, don't live at home or receive financial support from my parents and haven't got any debt.
With net neutrality you only have one option for internet access: untampered internet.
Without net neutrality you have to choose your place of residence based on ISP availability :) :)
- Which is not going to happen... Arguments not necessary
It's simply not profitable for multiple ISPs to deliver internet to the same residence...
Here in Denmark, power supply companies decided to dig up half the country to bury fiber cables... This is nice, and they provide great cheap service and fast internet, but EVERY single company doing this failing because they're competing against copper cables that have already been paid for...
Last I heard one of the fiber networks were being bought up, by big copper cable network owner...
"No [ISP] can block... legitimate use conducted through the Internet." Anybody else see the problem here?
No... Do you seriously expect net neutrality laws to state that ISPs may not block illegal activities ?
If so, wouldn't it make more sense to make the illegal activities legal...
Note: I don't see how you can define p2p services as illegal, lot of legitimate content is distributed using p2p... If that's what you're worried about..
All this talk about how cars can almost drive themselves, the air can be almost clean and cars almost doesn't need gasoline anymore... Makes me think, what if we just put down iron rails, put power in the rails and a computer run the cars...
- Yes, it's impossible... because... and... But the technology for clean and safe transport is there just use it!
Agree... It's not possible to write a 3,000-page report without making errors...
Hmm... .xxx domains matching our current domains and/or name and make them redirect...
I suppose we should buy up
That might be pretty fun too... Or maybe just really creepy... Can't decide which it is...
Is SkypeKit ‘open’? What will you restrict?
The topic of openness is often debated and its definition can mean different things to different people. For starters, we believe in an open Internet and open standards. We are adopting an open approach meaning we are releasing APIs and enabling others to use SkypeKit and apply it in new ways. But, SkypeKit won’t be opened up to every single use case that developers dream up. For example, our license terms prohibit using SkypeKit for gambling or adult-themed applications.
Think of SkypeKit as a "headless" version of Skype – that is, a Skype client with no user interface that runs invisibly.
How is this even remotely close to open ? As far as I can see it's still just a binary blob!
Is it just SHOUTcast directory listing that they don't integrate with anymore?
And if so, why? How can you set distribution license on software that only uses your service ?
or are they using some code from AOL/Nullsoft, in which case why didn't they just rewrite it ?
I'm sorry, but am I the only one lost here?
okay, that's amazing... I hope you have a local copy of wikipedia...
I can't imagine high school without internet, let alone university... When searching for new information on a topic I easily download a few hundrede megabytes in pdfs alone...
I agree with GP, in what places on earth, apart from what I assume is a farm in the middle of the desert in Australia, is quotas an issue ? :)
I've seen 10 GiB qoutas on 3G here (Denmark)... But who would survive on 3G only, I'd admit I haven't tried it, but I can't imagine that it's stable or fast (yes, it might give you 5Mb/s on a sunny day, but what about ping times...
:( :)
I have 5Mb/s down for about 25 USD/month no quotas... Looking a gnome-system-monitor I downloaded 2.1 GiB over the past two hours or so... Internet radio/last.fm, youtube and random stuff...
If I look at my provider I can get 50Mb/s for about 80 USD/month, still no quotas... However, my ISP doesn't give me much up-speed... But my parents have fiber in their door, they can get 100Mb/s up and down for a quite reasonable price...
This is Denmark, and no you can probably not move here
- Sorry...
But since some idiots voted for the Danish Public Party (National Socialist) immigration have become very hard... Maybe, if you marry someone older than 24, or find a job, have a good education and is willing to learn Danish...
Otherwise, try Sweden their immigration policy is not as hard, and their internet connections are better... Plus their privacy is better protected against organizations such as **AA...
Hmm... I supposed the only thing wrong with Sweden is their alcohol taxes, so remember to bring you own beer
I don't think he choose the slashdot headline...
I think GPs point is that we do the same thing... The only difference is the definition of "state approved".
(An important definition, but still we also limit freedom of speech).
Do you know if any Intergrated Development Environments that generates SVG + Javascript... Inkscape is probably what comes closest, and Inkscape is good, but it's not anywhere near as good as the Flash tools for making interactive content...
Anybody, even knows of serious projects trying to create an HTML5/SVG/javascript IDE ?
I think this is the real problem... It's all developers, developers, developers...
Well... Compared to handwritten svg...
even inkscape... Not saying that inkscape is bad, just not taught to as many designers as flash is...
From the article:
In Queensland schools, creationism will be offered for discussion in the subject of ancient history, under the topic of "controversies".
And this is exactly where creationism belongs! It's a part of our culture and religion, and should be taught as such...
Creationism is a great example when discussion scientific methods, history and how new controversial discoveries was acknowledged...
Offtopic: I was just about to state that I couldn't see how this is new worthy... Then I realized, that it is news, just not bad news... It's sad to realize that I come to a point where happy stories are no longer news worthy.
Can't a lawsuit be dismissed on basis of being... well... absurd ?
Once you get the first car to stop, and have build up a nice traffic jam behind you, it's not really that dangerous... But the honking might be a bit annoying, remember to bring your mp3 player...
Anyway this is just one of those, only in America stories...
like thats going to make any difference when half the users can't see the difference between win 9x and win 7... :)
Seriously, my mom didn't see the difference
Indeed, this situation really threatens Wikipedia's standing as non-bias (specifically, censorship-free) and open, at least among those who didn't already know better. Could this be the straw that breaks Wikipedia?
No... It might hurt your feelings if you hold Wikipedia to be a divine entity... However, wikipedia is a made up of Humans, and AFAIK we're pretty good to fail... That doesn't mean that wikipedia can't correct it.. It's not as if, Wikipedia is suddenly starting to support censorship all over the line... Just that maybe Wales, didn't think his every move fully through... Or that Fox will say what ever the **** they think will make people continue to watch their show...
By the way, to say that wikipedia is in chaos, based on a statement from a single unnamed source... is bad press ethics... Seriously do we even want to discuss something that low...
Did Sanger expect this?
Does it matter and do we really care... :)
Yeah, that's what can happen if you go outside... :)
Now he's trying to piss-off our ally Israel...>
An ally that is currently, well let's be honest, always have given you more enemies than friends :)