> I win when women stop being treated like pieces > of meat by the gaming industry.
Are you talking about the portrayal of women in video games? The unrealistic proportions of Lara Croft? You can certainly make a case of it.
But think about the portrayal of men. Seriously, think about it.
It is, by now, common knowledge that the key to modern advertising is creating a feeling of deficit in the target audience, i.e. to make them feel bad about themselves so as to create a need for the product.
It would appear to objectify both men and women. The girl is there to make Duke Nukem look more manly to guys. It is similar to the models on TV game shows, who fulfill the role of making the male host appear more virile to the female audience. Does this have any effect on the self image of males?
Analyse what it says men should be like. Do most men have these characteristics? How many males in games are far and beyond what is possible in real life? Also, isn't that the point?
Not even this bodybuilder can resemble the unrealistic proportions of Duke Nukem, yet he is obviously far more muscular than the majority of males attending the convention. This shows that both the male and female booth models are those who possess desired physical characteristics in greater proportion than the general population.
Pieces of meat.
> I specified women, because the article was > about women, not men. > Show me an article about the way men are > mistreated and used and ignored by the gaming > industry...and oh. Wait. There aren't any, are > there. Because it doesn't happen.
Um, the article in question could be interpreted as fulfilling the criteria you just posed. Men are not going to be hired to 'man' the booths by the game producer, hence ignored.
You aren't going to find many articles discussing mistreatment of men. This could just as easily mean it is a silent problem.
(in Australia, it is increasingly common for tv advertisements to portray passive, uncertain, unnattractive males being made fools of by smart, sophisticated and attractive women.)
Miss Saturnine,
The article states that 10 women will be hired for the booth itself on the basis of their interest in games. This means that the appearance is not an issue.
The only credible case one could make against them is that they appear to favour women over men.
RJK.
> First, having to decide if someone is really > that ugly [snip] > People these days are so superficial...
Superficial? The article quoted made no mention of hiring ugly women. Furthermore, the antiboothbabe site indicates that it will be hairy men with blonde wigs who will make up the complement of 'antiboothbabes'.
You barely looked past the surface of the news item (apparently never even investigating the links provided) before sharing your 'insightful' comments.
I suggest that it is you who is superficial.
RJK (will be marked a troll for objecting to people plainly not reading the articles).
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Hi Cornflake917,
:)
> the ability to fly aircraft
I remember playing a Quake mod which let you fly in little planes
RJK.
Miss Saturnine,
> I win when women stop being treated like pieces
> of meat by the gaming industry.
Are you talking about the portrayal of women in video games? The unrealistic proportions of Lara Croft? You can certainly make a case of it.
But think about the portrayal of men. Seriously, think about it.
It is, by now, common knowledge that the key to modern advertising is creating a feeling of deficit in the target audience, i.e. to make them feel bad about themselves so as to create a need for the product.
Look at this image of Duke Nukem:
http://tinyurl.com/cdhvv
It would appear to objectify both men and women. The girl is there to make Duke Nukem look more manly to guys. It is similar to the models on TV game shows, who fulfill the role of making the male host appear more virile to the female audience. Does this have any effect on the self image of males?
Analyse what it says men should be like. Do most men have these characteristics? How many males in games are far and beyond what is possible in real life? Also, isn't that the point?
Now look at the Duke Nukem "booth babe":
http://tinyurl.com/al66t
Not even this bodybuilder can resemble the unrealistic proportions of Duke Nukem, yet he is obviously far more muscular than the majority of males attending the convention. This shows that both the male and female booth models are those who possess desired physical characteristics in greater proportion than the general population.
Pieces of meat.
> I specified women, because the article was
> about women, not men.
> Show me an article about the way men are
> mistreated and used and ignored by the gaming
> industry...and oh. Wait. There aren't any, are
> there. Because it doesn't happen.
Um, the article in question could be interpreted as fulfilling the criteria you just posed. Men are not going to be hired to 'man' the booths by the game producer, hence ignored.
You aren't going to find many articles discussing mistreatment of men. This could just as easily mean it is a silent problem.
(in Australia, it is increasingly common for tv advertisements to portray passive, uncertain, unnattractive males being made fools of by smart, sophisticated and attractive women.)
RJK.
Miss Saturnine, The article states that 10 women will be hired for the booth itself on the basis of their interest in games. This means that the appearance is not an issue. The only credible case one could make against them is that they appear to favour women over men. RJK.
brilinux,
> First, having to decide if someone is really
> that ugly [snip]
> People these days are so superficial...
Superficial? The article quoted made no mention of hiring ugly women. Furthermore, the antiboothbabe site indicates that it will be hairy men with blonde wigs who will make up the complement of 'antiboothbabes'.
You barely looked past the surface of the news item (apparently never even investigating the links provided) before sharing your 'insightful' comments.
I suggest that it is you who is superficial.
RJK (will be marked a troll for objecting to people plainly not reading the articles).
Guspaz,
> Oh, let's not forget that they're being
> particularly demeaning to women by hiring
> them on the sole basis of how ugly they are.
Really? Did you make that up, or did you read it somewhere?
I read the article linked in the news item, and also went to the antiboothbabe site - no mention of what you claim.
I suggest that you are being demeaning to our intelligence by making unfounded assumptions.
RJK.