Mozilla has the same kind of relationship with Google also, which is why Firefox's default home page is a Firefox branded Google page. Go to www.google.com/firefox
I'm also sure Google has to prevent adsense fraud pursuant to the contracts with their adwords customers (I could be wrong though). This might be why they are more strict with adsense than they are with page rank spamming.
I was just dealing with Hauppage a few days ago. I have a TV Tuner card that is incredibly out of date (no longer being sold by Hauppage) that I have had for well over a year. I moved it to a new computer, and it wouldn't work. Sent them an email, and in less than a day, had a full response with full instructions on how to fix the issue.
Many companies do provide exceptional customer service. Telus, one of the ISPs in my area, has horrible customer service, so bad that I ditched their service. Shaw, the other major ISP, has great response times and support staff.
So I concur. It depends on the company itself, not on the size of the company. Shaw and Telus are both approximately the same size.
Opera has a partnership with Google, so everytime you do a Google search from the Opera toolbar, Google pays Opera. This is where the money for the desktop version is coming from.
Lol, at least you put the....s to show you left part of it out, despite completely mangling what Google was trying to say.
You can choose to NEVER save information in Gmail, irregardless of the client you use.
It is the off the record feature that you have to have a certain client to use. This feature is only used if you save chats in Gmail, but choose not to save a specific chat in Gmail.
BMW.de was intentionally spamming search engines. This has nothing to do with a poorly designed website (which would rank low if it couldn't be properly indexed).
That is the dumbest comment I have ever seen on Slashdot. Do you have any clue as to how Pagerank works? Just a hint, what users click on has nothing to do with it.
Bullshit. My three year old HP Desktop with an Nvidia GeForce FX 5200 AGP card gets around 1800 FPS (with the Linux drivers). The Windows drivers seem to perform better, although I haven't tested the actual FPS. I'm going to assume you were exaggerating there.
I'm not sure if this utility is included in Solaris, but under Linux if you open an Xterm and then run glxgears, and leave it run without moving your mouse for a while, then close the window with the moving gears, you will see the FPS in the Xterm window. Of course, the drivers could be buggy as shit still, like some versions of Nvidia's for Linux (which were promptly fixed I might add).
My grandma hangs them on strings in the garden to scare away birds. She lives on an acreage, so the garden itself is about 2 acres.....she's about 1/4 finished by now. I figure give her another 5 years, and she'll be done.
Geez, after re-reading my harsh post (I was having a bad day...just had thousands of dollars stolen from me) I'm surprised you said you would mod me up. I was expecting an even harsher post back.
I think we both have valid points. I have always been of the view that when you are servicing your customers, you should accept their decisions, irregardless of how dumb they appear or are, and work your services around them. However, I hate when people complain, and when people bitch about spyware but refuse to switch browsers, it ticks me off also.
IE7 sucks by the way. It seemed all flashy and exciting and new for the first hour or so, until I realized the dumb thing can't even store cookies properly. Gmail has many quirks that don't show up in Firefox or Opera. You have to ask God's help to uninstall the dumb thing. And my keyboard is very unresponsive in it, problems I didn't notice in Firefox or any other program (including IE6).
I have no idea what you are talking about to be perfectly honest. If the service was MSN News I would be saying the exact same thing. Opting out of Google News is a hell of a lot easier than sueing someone.
If someone who sued Google failed to take advantage of the option to opt-out of being included in Google News, I think that would be a failure to mitigate your damages.
This is a class-action lawsuit, on behalf of all AT&T customers in the US, not just the EFF. So it doesn't matter whether EFF's traffic was tapped or not.
OK, for your information I am using Firefox again, due to numerous bugs that I began noticing in IE minutes after posting my post.
Anyways, how are people stupid when they simply don't care about web browsers enough to even know there are alternatives? Cause, fyi, most people don't care, and couldn't be bothered to care. And no amount of bitching by web developers is going to make them care. Get over it, or find a new profession. Cater to your customers and their choices, or fuck off and do something else for a living, kapeesh? In my profession, if a customer choice causes me more work, and I bitch to them about it, I would most likely be fired. Quit being a whiner.
Of course, this is Slashdot, so I'll be modded down in about 30 seconds.
Google didn't copy the article either. Again, how is this any different than Google Search showing a small snippet from an indexed web page, while providing a link to the full webpage?
That's because you are supposed to click the news item in Google News, and then click on the ads at the Newspaper's website. Could you imagine the chaos that would be Google News if every single story on the front page (over 50 at any given time) had its own ads?
Not only that, but Google doesn't even claim otherwise. From the about Google News Page:
Google News gathers stories from more than 4,500 English-language news sources worldwide, and automatically arranges them to present the most relevant news first. Topics are updated every 15 minutes, so you're likely to see new stories each time you check the page. Pick the item that interests you and you'll go directly to the site which published that story.
Google Cache makes an entire web page available from Google's servers, Google News only makes a very tiny portion of the webpage (yes, despite being news, we are still talking about web pages here) available. Explain how it is any different?
If I were Google, the second a company started bitching, I would blacklist them from Google news, AND tell them about it. Then, let the company come grovelling at their feet when their traffic (and ad clicks along with it) drops dramatically. I think that would be the best way to deal with the situation.
Last I checked, you could opt out of Google News. How many of those companies bitching have done so?
Someone please explain to me how this is any different than Google Search indexing these exact same articles and making the first few lines available through their search engine? Or Google images making these exact same images available from Google's servers?
Either way, Google is still directing web traffic to their sites. There are a lot of news articles on various sites I would have never read if it weren't for Google news. I don't have time to track thousands of different online news outlets, so Google does it for me. I have even *gasp* clicked on ads after being redirected to the news vendors website. Even more shocking, there has been a few (5 actually) news outlets who's RSS feeds I have subscribed to after reading a few articles of theirs linked to from Google News.
Oh well, there are no laws against stupidity. This is almost as dumb as book publishers getting in a panic over Google Book Search, which is free advertising as far as I'm concerned. Or do they fear people will be satisfied with the page shown on Google Book Search and not buy the full book? Generally, when I want to read a book, I want to read the full book. The same thing with the news. I don't read the Google News homepage and not go to the full source.
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Google Desktop Extreme allows Google Desktop to have a similar interface, completely bypassing the web interface.
http://www.podsync.com/gdsx.htm
Mozilla has the same kind of relationship with Google also, which is why Firefox's default home page is a Firefox branded Google page. Go to www.google.com/firefox
I'm also sure Google has to prevent adsense fraud pursuant to the contracts with their adwords customers (I could be wrong though). This might be why they are more strict with adsense than they are with page rank spamming.
I was just dealing with Hauppage a few days ago. I have a TV Tuner card that is incredibly out of date (no longer being sold by Hauppage) that I have had for well over a year. I moved it to a new computer, and it wouldn't work. Sent them an email, and in less than a day, had a full response with full instructions on how to fix the issue.
Many companies do provide exceptional customer service. Telus, one of the ISPs in my area, has horrible customer service, so bad that I ditched their service. Shaw, the other major ISP, has great response times and support staff.
So I concur. It depends on the company itself, not on the size of the company. Shaw and Telus are both approximately the same size.
Opera has a partnership with Google, so everytime you do a Google search from the Opera toolbar, Google pays Opera. This is where the money for the desktop version is coming from.
StarOffice is just OpenOffice plus some proprietary additions, which is allowed by the LGPL.
Lol, at least you put the ....s to show you left part of it out, despite completely mangling what Google was trying to say.
You can choose to NEVER save information in Gmail, irregardless of the client you use.
It is the off the record feature that you have to have a certain client to use. This feature is only used if you save chats in Gmail, but choose not to save a specific chat in Gmail.
Nice try though, FUD mongerer.
BMW.de was intentionally spamming search engines. This has nothing to do with a poorly designed website (which would rank low if it couldn't be properly indexed).
That is the dumbest comment I have ever seen on Slashdot. Do you have any clue as to how Pagerank works? Just a hint, what users click on has nothing to do with it.
Google is following THE LAW in China. What is so difficult to understand about that? Just like Google blocks nazi searches in France.
and a 5-6 average fps.
Bullshit. My three year old HP Desktop with an Nvidia GeForce FX 5200 AGP card gets around 1800 FPS (with the Linux drivers). The Windows drivers seem to perform better, although I haven't tested the actual FPS. I'm going to assume you were exaggerating there.
I'm not sure if this utility is included in Solaris, but under Linux if you open an Xterm and then run glxgears, and leave it run without moving your mouse for a while, then close the window with the moving gears, you will see the FPS in the Xterm window. Of course, the drivers could be buggy as shit still, like some versions of Nvidia's for Linux (which were promptly fixed I might add).
My grandma hangs them on strings in the garden to scare away birds. She lives on an acreage, so the garden itself is about 2 acres.....she's about 1/4 finished by now. I figure give her another 5 years, and she'll be done.
I hereby claim against Apple Computers as follows;
I am an idiot.
Geez, after re-reading my harsh post (I was having a bad day...just had thousands of dollars stolen from me) I'm surprised you said you would mod me up. I was expecting an even harsher post back.
I think we both have valid points. I have always been of the view that when you are servicing your customers, you should accept their decisions, irregardless of how dumb they appear or are, and work your services around them. However, I hate when people complain, and when people bitch about spyware but refuse to switch browsers, it ticks me off also.
IE7 sucks by the way. It seemed all flashy and exciting and new for the first hour or so, until I realized the dumb thing can't even store cookies properly. Gmail has many quirks that don't show up in Firefox or Opera. You have to ask God's help to uninstall the dumb thing. And my keyboard is very unresponsive in it, problems I didn't notice in Firefox or any other program (including IE6).
I have no idea what you are talking about to be perfectly honest. If the service was MSN News I would be saying the exact same thing. Opting out of Google News is a hell of a lot easier than sueing someone.
If someone who sued Google failed to take advantage of the option to opt-out of being included in Google News, I think that would be a failure to mitigate your damages.
This is a class-action lawsuit, on behalf of all AT&T customers in the US, not just the EFF. So it doesn't matter whether EFF's traffic was tapped or not.
EFF Legal Victories
http://www.eff.org/legal/victories/
OK, for your information I am using Firefox again, due to numerous bugs that I began noticing in IE minutes after posting my post.
Anyways, how are people stupid when they simply don't care about web browsers enough to even know there are alternatives? Cause, fyi, most people don't care, and couldn't be bothered to care. And no amount of bitching by web developers is going to make them care. Get over it, or find a new profession. Cater to your customers and their choices, or fuck off and do something else for a living, kapeesh? In my profession, if a customer choice causes me more work, and I bitch to them about it, I would most likely be fired. Quit being a whiner.
Of course, this is Slashdot, so I'll be modded down in about 30 seconds.
Google didn't copy the article either. Again, how is this any different than Google Search showing a small snippet from an indexed web page, while providing a link to the full webpage?
That's because you are supposed to click the news item in Google News, and then click on the ads at the Newspaper's website. Could you imagine the chaos that would be Google News if every single story on the front page (over 50 at any given time) had its own ads?
Not only that, but Google doesn't even claim otherwise. From the about Google News Page:
Google News gathers stories from more than 4,500 English-language news sources worldwide, and automatically arranges them to present the most relevant news first. Topics are updated every 15 minutes, so you're likely to see new stories each time you check the page. Pick the item that interests you and you'll go directly to the site which published that story.
Google Cache makes an entire web page available from Google's servers, Google News only makes a very tiny portion of the webpage (yes, despite being news, we are still talking about web pages here) available. Explain how it is any different?
w ww.cnn.com/rssclick/2006/US/01/09/survivor.mine/%3 Fsection%3Dcnn_topstories+site:www.cnn.com+Miner&h l=en&ct=clnk&cd=1&lr=lang_en
How is this http://72.14.207.104/search?q=cache:qF-NV_J-7O8J:
any better than what Google News does?
(Sorry, too lazy to make a proper link)
If I were Google, the second a company started bitching, I would blacklist them from Google news, AND tell them about it. Then, let the company come grovelling at their feet when their traffic (and ad clicks along with it) drops dramatically. I think that would be the best way to deal with the situation.
Last I checked, you could opt out of Google News. How many of those companies bitching have done so?
Someone please explain to me how this is any different than Google Search indexing these exact same articles and making the first few lines available through their search engine? Or Google images making these exact same images available from Google's servers?
Either way, Google is still directing web traffic to their sites. There are a lot of news articles on various sites I would have never read if it weren't for Google news. I don't have time to track thousands of different online news outlets, so Google does it for me. I have even *gasp* clicked on ads after being redirected to the news vendors website. Even more shocking, there has been a few (5 actually) news outlets who's RSS feeds I have subscribed to after reading a few articles of theirs linked to from Google News.
Oh well, there are no laws against stupidity. This is almost as dumb as book publishers getting in a panic over Google Book Search, which is free advertising as far as I'm concerned. Or do they fear people will be satisfied with the page shown on Google Book Search and not buy the full book? Generally, when I want to read a book, I want to read the full book. The same thing with the news. I don't read the Google News homepage and not go to the full source.