But if you want stuff from the MS store, then so what if you have to create an account... is that really different than anywhere else?
Not really, but it's still a nasty spying feature. They probably know when you log in on your computer (if you are online), your synchronized settings will reveal data (including your wallpaper), maybe other stuff. It's a convenient slippery slope to a route where Microsoft and NSA governs your whole computer.
I have yet to experience a Windows release where the majority of the chant was exactly this, until the HUGE, OBVIOUS, AND UNMISTAKABLE structural issues come to light after a few major security breaches. Not even Windows 8 has failed this test, and it is already getting owned in the wild with little abandon.
I'm waiting. Meanwhile, can you tell what these structural issues are in Vista and 7? There are still various security vulnerabilities found, but in general the NT 6.x stuff is quite solid. There are no more big disasters like the Mydoom or Blaster worms, which I would count as "huge, obvious and unmistakable" security issues. John Doe will still catch malware for installing shady software, but if you are a geek with a clue, there should be no problems.
I run a Linux-only household. I don't have to buy a new computer every two or three years because my OS is too much of a resource hog for what I've got.
A Linux desktop is more resource hog than Windows these days. I'm not joking. You have to step down to minimalistic XFCE/LXDE style desktop environments to get the similar performance to Windows.
Don't blame me because you keep on drinking the MS kool aid.
How do you know that you're not drinking Linux Foundation kool aid?
It's confusing, but you can upgrade to Windows 8.1 without having to get a Hotm^W Outlook.com account. You have to click buttons with titles to the effect of "create a new Microsoft account" followed by "continue using my local account" (or whatever; I don't have it in front of me).
You can't install anything from the Windows Store without an account, and I think some other functionality is broken too. All in all, it's like using an Android phone without Google account: it's possible but somewhat clunky, and you finally end up saying "fine, fine, I'll create the damn account".
Actually, from a structural standing, Windows 8 is fine, even better than the ones that came before.
It's the UI they changed.
Oh? They've switched to a unix-like structure?
Hah hah. Like UNIX would automatically be some kind of "best" structure. Modern hardware would probably allow us to do many things much better than UNIX or Windows-style kernel, both of which deep down cling on to legacy architectures. Well, maybe you are an UNIX fanboy and it creates a warm fuzzy feeling, nothing wrong about that.;)
Windows 8 is shit, from top to bottom. There is no redeeming this pile of shit. Microsoft knows it. the rest of its userbase is just deluded in thinking it's good.
Heh, I am seeing the same thing with open source. It's sometimes rather crusty, but the userbase is deluded into thinking that it's good.
Microsoft needs to listen to their customers and bring back the start menu that was removed in Windows 8's beta period.
What bothers me is that they extensively gathered user feedback during the two free-to-test Windows 8 preview versions and they still stubbornly went with the clunky Start Screen. I guess the pressure to reinvent things to have something new to sell was so high.
Because those lists are not true. They always conveniently forget a release in between, or describe a release as good/bad even if it actually was the opposite.
8 months in a Swedish prison sounds like a vacation to me.
At least it is somewhat reasonable punishment (hey, he didn't kill anyone), rather than 100 years in jail and a zillion dollar fine. 8 months should still be a nice snap on the fingers.
Slashdot Mirror
I actually like this list. It's exactly how I see it too.
But if you want stuff from the MS store, then so what if you have to create an account... is that really different than anywhere else?
Not really, but it's still a nasty spying feature. They probably know when you log in on your computer (if you are online), your synchronized settings will reveal data (including your wallpaper), maybe other stuff. It's a convenient slippery slope to a route where Microsoft and NSA governs your whole computer.
If you don't need the Modern UI apps, I recommend Windows 7.
Ya think? ;)
I have yet to experience a Windows release where the majority of the chant was exactly this, until the HUGE, OBVIOUS, AND UNMISTAKABLE structural issues come to light after a few major security breaches. Not even Windows 8 has failed this test, and it is already getting owned in the wild with little abandon.
I'm waiting. Meanwhile, can you tell what these structural issues are in Vista and 7? There are still various security vulnerabilities found, but in general the NT 6.x stuff is quite solid. There are no more big disasters like the Mydoom or Blaster worms, which I would count as "huge, obvious and unmistakable" security issues. John Doe will still catch malware for installing shady software, but if you are a geek with a clue, there should be no problems.
Wait, what? Windows 7 without Service Packs will not do modern partition alignment? Interesting, is this true?
Why? Netflix seems to work for her just fine.
Duh. Of course those machines will still receive the updates needed to get them to W8.1U1 patch level.
I run a Linux-only household. I don't have to buy a new computer every two or three years because my OS is too much of a resource hog for what I've got.
A Linux desktop is more resource hog than Windows these days. I'm not joking. You have to step down to minimalistic XFCE/LXDE style desktop environments to get the similar performance to Windows.
Don't blame me because you keep on drinking the MS kool aid.
How do you know that you're not drinking Linux Foundation kool aid?
The notifications system is quite broken with Fedora 20 KDE.
It's confusing, but you can upgrade to Windows 8.1 without having to get a Hotm^W Outlook.com account. You have to click buttons with titles to the effect of "create a new Microsoft account" followed by "continue using my local account" (or whatever; I don't have it in front of me).
You can't install anything from the Windows Store without an account, and I think some other functionality is broken too. All in all, it's like using an Android phone without Google account: it's possible but somewhat clunky, and you finally end up saying "fine, fine, I'll create the damn account".
How is OS X organized?
Actually, from a structural standing, Windows 8 is fine, even better than the ones that came before.
It's the UI they changed.
Oh? They've switched to a unix-like structure?
Hah hah. Like UNIX would automatically be some kind of "best" structure. Modern hardware would probably allow us to do many things much better than UNIX or Windows-style kernel, both of which deep down cling on to legacy architectures. Well, maybe you are an UNIX fanboy and it creates a warm fuzzy feeling, nothing wrong about that. ;)
Then you have bunch of the best doing the jobs and everyone who is not feasible to hire for that $15/hr is simply put onto government support.
Windows 8 is shit, from top to bottom. There is no redeeming this pile of shit. Microsoft knows it. the rest of its userbase is just deluded in thinking it's good.
Heh, I am seeing the same thing with open source. It's sometimes rather crusty, but the userbase is deluded into thinking that it's good.
I do agree though that Windows 8 is a garbage OS.
I have to agree.
Microsoft needs to listen to their customers and bring back the start menu that was removed in Windows 8's beta period.
What bothers me is that they extensively gathered user feedback during the two free-to-test Windows 8 preview versions and they still stubbornly went with the clunky Start Screen. I guess the pressure to reinvent things to have something new to sell was so high.
Windows 2000 is crap? It's one of the golden releases, in my opinion the best one after 7.
That's what also makes it so easy to tweak those lists to make the good/bad pattern appear.
Maybe they realized that they were already making too much UI changes in Windows 8 and wanted to cool things down to not confuse people anymore.
Because those lists are not true. They always conveniently forget a release in between, or describe a release as good/bad even if it actually was the opposite.
There's a meta-problem here if you call the slow guy in your team "an idiot". Anyway, just assign a bit leaner workload on him, problem solved.
So you couldn't make a proper counter-argument and resorted to an insult instead?
Facepalm.
8 months in a Swedish prison sounds like a vacation to me.
At least it is somewhat reasonable punishment (hey, he didn't kill anyone), rather than 100 years in jail and a zillion dollar fine. 8 months should still be a nice snap on the fingers.