But the integration isn't there yet. Solaris works very well with Sun hardware. You don't run into hardware conflicts, or driver issues. It just works. And for somebody new to UNIX, having a system that works well right off is a blessing.
You should have at least some background in operating system theory.
The 4.4BSD Daemon book says in its preface: "This book is suitable for use as a reference text to provide background for a primary textbook in a second-level course on operating systems. It is not intended for use as an introductory operating-system textbook; the reader should have already encountered terminology such as memory management, process scheduling, and I/O systems."
The 4.4BSD Daemon book has very little code in it, and what is there is often pseudocode. It's not like some books on Linux that display the entire source code, with commentary.
Do not forget that a lot of GNU software (which often compromises a large portion of a base Linux system) uses the Info documentation system, rather than man pages. Often times the man pages are not always updated frequently.
You can tell a pure OO language from an impure OO language because you have to resort to boxing (or if you're lucky, autoboxing). You're stuck using classes like java.lang.Integer.
You need a book such as "The Design and Implementation of the 4.4BSD Operating System". I believe there is a more recent edition which focuses on FreeBSD. There are many other books out there, too, focusing on the internals of systems like Linux, Solaris and OpenServer.
They explain how each portion of the system works, in addition to how they work together. And then they explain exactly why.
You should be able to find such books at a university bookstore.
Indeed, getting a solid Sun machine is a fantastic way of learning UNIX. Solaris is a very mature UNIX-based system, and it is even open sourced these days. Solaris integrates very well with Sun hardware, but of course that's not a surprise.
You can obtain used SPARC-based Sun workstations relatively cheaply these days from a number of sources, and their newer Operton-based workstations are quite fantastic. If you do happen to find that Solaris isn't to your liking, you can always install Linux, NetBSD, OpenBSD or FreeBSD.
Sun workstations make a fantastic system for learning UNIX.
If you mean a pure OO language like Java, in which everything is an object except for primitives....
Your statement is contradictory. All types are objects in a pure OO language. Yet Java's primitives are not. Thus Java is not a pure object oriented language.
Indeed. But most Americans these days have very little background in such essential subjects. They can flip burgers, do hair and work a till, but cannot see when their own government is completely destroying their economy.
So who is responsible if you yell 'fire' in your theater and two children are trampled to death in the ensuing chaos?
All the fools who failed to use common sense (ie. Do I smell fire? Do I see fire? Is the fire alarm going off?), panicked, and then trampled the children to death.
Notice that the value of the Canadian dollar has been steadily rising relative to that of the US dollar since about March, 2003. Now, I'm sure you know what began in March of 2003 (hint: invasion of Iraq). Again, look at that chart if you do not believe me.
It's perfectly fine for Jews, Christians and Muslims to tolerate others who do not believe the same faith. After all, the commandment usually used the wording "Thou must..." or "You must..." Such wording implies that the Jew, Christian or Muslim must not have any other god above Yahweh, God, Allah, etc. It does not say what others must believe, nor does it suggest how such religious people should treat those who do not share the same faith.
I agree, the "Higher Linux" is Solaris and/or FreeBSD.
Indeed, I've experienced some of the same problems. I'm not sure why the GNOME people haven't picked up on all of those problems. It'd perhaps be okay if such obvious problems were found in an alpha release, but this is in a stable release.
It's nonsense like that which makes me seriously question the capabilities of the GNOME developers. Those are just the kind of mistakes that shouldn't be made in any software, let alone one of the top UNIX desktop environments. The KDE developers were obviously smart enough to avoid such problems, so I'll stick with their products instead.
I think you misunderstood what he was saying, Hal. It would seem that he was pointing out how the name "Disclic" sounds far too much like "Dick Lick". You know, when one person suckles on the penis of a man. A sucking of the cock, one might say.
There are many atheists (note that it is not spelt "athiests", as you incorrectly seem to believe) who would like nothing more than to crush all religious though.
But such people tend to be extremists. Most religious people, including Jews, Muslims, Christians, Buddhists, Hindus, and so forth, show a high degree of tolerance for the beliefs of others.
I know you want to paint all religious people as "evil", but the fact of the matter is that you're wrong. Reality differs from your fantasy world.
Good try, Hal. Notice that my post was not talking about the video itself. I think such videos are great, be them from Microsoft or anyone else.
In the post you linked to, it is clear that I have no problem with the video. I do not like the GUI that Microsoft has chosen for their latest release of Office. My complain is with the product that the video is showing, not with the video itself.
As for people switching, I just sent that link to several relatives. Some of them have already gotten back to me by saying that they're impressed by what they saw there, and are now going to give OpenOffice a try. I don't know if they'll stick with it, but at least they are now aware of its capabilities due to these videos, and will have given it a shot.
Those videos look fantastic. They should really help out with getting people to convert to OpenOffice.org.
Indeed, a massive Thanks! to everyone who has contributed to them.
Perhaps it is time for similar videos to be put out regarding the use of Firefox, Seamonkey, and other such open source projects. Ruby on Rails has some tutorial videos like that, and they're very helpful, too.
I know that for you, as a Windows user, Firefox does not use the GNOME file selector dialogs. I don't dispute that.
Under Linux, however, Firefox 1.0.7 does use the GNOME file selection dialogs. Trying to save a file using Galeon brings up the exact same dialog as when trying to save a file using Firefox. This is with GNOME 2.12, mind you, the most recent stable release. I repeat, Firefox does not use its own file selection dialogs.
Firefox 1.0.7 also uses the GNOME 2.12 "Open" dialog. It's not as horrible as the GNOME "Save As" dialog, but it is still nowhere as good as the one offered by KDE, Windows and OS X.
Except that it doesn't effectively replace brushing.
At one time, many thought that Java would replace C or C++ for desktop application development. However, actual use suggested that it often wasn't a suitable replacement. Sure, it has its uses for niche applications, but overall it's just not a suitable replacement.
Actually, I can't say that I've ever seen the clutter that you mention.
What version of KDE are you using? I'm using KDE 3.4.3, as bundled with Kubuntu 5.10. There is no "Systems Settings" submenu. However, the "Systems Settings" utility is by far the cleanest I have seen from them yet. It looks quite similar to the "Systems Preferences" utility of Mac OS X Tiger.
I would be more than willing to use GNOME, but many improvements would need to be made. That does not appear to be happening. That could be because they're unaware of the major problems with their product. I will alert them, as well as potential users, to such problems.
Indeed, you are correct. The GNOME file selector used by Firefox 1.0.7 is quite terrible. It isn't as intuitive as the file selectors offered by KDE, Mac OS X and even Windows. But more importantly, it doesn't offer any additional benefit to account for the lack of intuitiveness.
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But the integration isn't there yet. Solaris works very well with Sun hardware. You don't run into hardware conflicts, or driver issues. It just works. And for somebody new to UNIX, having a system that works well right off is a blessing.
You should have at least some background in operating system theory.
The 4.4BSD Daemon book says in its preface: "This book is suitable for use as a reference text to provide background for a primary textbook in a second-level course on operating systems. It is not intended for use as an introductory operating-system textbook; the reader should have already encountered terminology such as memory management, process scheduling, and I/O systems."
The 4.4BSD Daemon book has very little code in it, and what is there is often pseudocode. It's not like some books on Linux that display the entire source code, with commentary.
Do not forget that a lot of GNU software (which often compromises a large portion of a base Linux system) uses the Info documentation system, rather than man pages. Often times the man pages are not always updated frequently.
Yes, recent versions of Python are purely OO.
You can tell a pure OO language from an impure OO language because you have to resort to boxing (or if you're lucky, autoboxing). You're stuck using classes like java.lang.Integer.
You need a book such as "The Design and Implementation of the 4.4BSD Operating System". I believe there is a more recent edition which focuses on FreeBSD. There are many other books out there, too, focusing on the internals of systems like Linux, Solaris and OpenServer.
They explain how each portion of the system works, in addition to how they work together. And then they explain exactly why.
You should be able to find such books at a university bookstore.
% man man
You're not allowed to type a command such as that in a number of American states, including Kansas, Texas, and Oklahoma.
A suitable homophobic alternative on some systems might be:
$ info man
Indeed, getting a solid Sun machine is a fantastic way of learning UNIX. Solaris is a very mature UNIX-based system, and it is even open sourced these days. Solaris integrates very well with Sun hardware, but of course that's not a surprise.
You can obtain used SPARC-based Sun workstations relatively cheaply these days from a number of sources, and their newer Operton-based workstations are quite fantastic. If you do happen to find that Solaris isn't to your liking, you can always install Linux, NetBSD, OpenBSD or FreeBSD.
Sun workstations make a fantastic system for learning UNIX.
If you mean a pure OO language like Java, in which everything is an object except for primitives ....
Your statement is contradictory. All types are objects in a pure OO language. Yet Java's primitives are not. Thus Java is not a pure object oriented language.
Indeed. But most Americans these days have very little background in such essential subjects. They can flip burgers, do hair and work a till, but cannot see when their own government is completely destroying their economy.
So who is responsible if you yell 'fire' in your theater and two children are trampled to death in the ensuing chaos?
All the fools who failed to use common sense (ie. Do I smell fire? Do I see fire? Is the fire alarm going off?), panicked, and then trampled the children to death.
Pardon me. "Your" should read "you're".
I know your joking, but it looks like the situation is changing.
Take a look at the exchange rates for the Canadian dollar versus the US dollar over the past five years:
http://finance.yahoo.com/q/bc?s=CADUSD=X&t=5y
Notice that the value of the Canadian dollar has been steadily rising relative to that of the US dollar since about March, 2003. Now, I'm sure you know what began in March of 2003 (hint: invasion of Iraq). Again, look at that chart if you do not believe me.
As a Canadian, have you considered putting some money towards her defense? Even $20 may help her out slightly.
It's perfectly fine for Jews, Christians and Muslims to tolerate others who do not believe the same faith. After all, the commandment usually used the wording "Thou must ..." or "You must ..." Such wording implies that the Jew, Christian or Muslim must not have any other god above Yahweh, God, Allah, etc. It does not say what others must believe, nor does it suggest how such religious people should treat those who do not share the same faith.
I agree, the "Higher Linux" is Solaris and/or FreeBSD.
The difference is that your friend is made up, just because you cannot combat KDE with facts.
My colleague, however, is quite real, and ran into some very real problems. KDE solved those problems.
Indeed, I've experienced some of the same problems. I'm not sure why the GNOME people haven't picked up on all of those problems. It'd perhaps be okay if such obvious problems were found in an alpha release, but this is in a stable release.
It's nonsense like that which makes me seriously question the capabilities of the GNOME developers. Those are just the kind of mistakes that shouldn't be made in any software, let alone one of the top UNIX desktop environments. The KDE developers were obviously smart enough to avoid such problems, so I'll stick with their products instead.
I think you misunderstood what he was saying, Hal. It would seem that he was pointing out how the name "Disclic" sounds far too much like "Dick Lick". You know, when one person suckles on the penis of a man. A sucking of the cock, one might say.
There are many atheists (note that it is not spelt "athiests", as you incorrectly seem to believe) who would like nothing more than to crush all religious though.
But such people tend to be extremists. Most religious people, including Jews, Muslims, Christians, Buddhists, Hindus, and so forth, show a high degree of tolerance for the beliefs of others.
I know you want to paint all religious people as "evil", but the fact of the matter is that you're wrong. Reality differs from your fantasy world.
Good try, Hal. Notice that my post was not talking about the video itself. I think such videos are great, be them from Microsoft or anyone else.
In the post you linked to, it is clear that I have no problem with the video. I do not like the GUI that Microsoft has chosen for their latest release of Office. My complain is with the product that the video is showing, not with the video itself.
As for people switching, I just sent that link to several relatives. Some of them have already gotten back to me by saying that they're impressed by what they saw there, and are now going to give OpenOffice a try. I don't know if they'll stick with it, but at least they are now aware of its capabilities due to these videos, and will have given it a shot.
Those videos look fantastic. They should really help out with getting people to convert to OpenOffice.org.
Indeed, a massive Thanks! to everyone who has contributed to them.
Perhaps it is time for similar videos to be put out regarding the use of Firefox, Seamonkey, and other such open source projects. Ruby on Rails has some tutorial videos like that, and they're very helpful, too.
I know that for you, as a Windows user, Firefox does not use the GNOME file selector dialogs. I don't dispute that.
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Under Linux, however, Firefox 1.0.7 does use the GNOME file selection dialogs. Trying to save a file using Galeon brings up the exact same dialog as when trying to save a file using Firefox. This is with GNOME 2.12, mind you, the most recent stable release. I repeat, Firefox does not use its own file selection dialogs.
I'll show you a picture:
http://www.gnome.org/~seth/designs/filechooser-sp
It's that piece of shit that is used by both.
Firefox 1.0.7 also uses the GNOME 2.12 "Open" dialog. It's not as horrible as the GNOME "Save As" dialog, but it is still nowhere as good as the one offered by KDE, Windows and OS X.
Except that it doesn't effectively replace brushing.
At one time, many thought that Java would replace C or C++ for desktop application development. However, actual use suggested that it often wasn't a suitable replacement. Sure, it has its uses for niche applications, but overall it's just not a suitable replacement.
But once things do start changing then it will be very easy to update to the latest packages. Then you can truly be on the cutting edge.
Actually, I can't say that I've ever seen the clutter that you mention.
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What version of KDE are you using? I'm using KDE 3.4.3, as bundled with Kubuntu 5.10. There is no "Systems Settings" submenu. However, the "Systems Settings" utility is by far the cleanest I have seen from them yet. It looks quite similar to the "Systems Preferences" utility of Mac OS X Tiger.
http://www.sonic.net/support/ss/mac/osx/tiger/sys
I would be more than willing to use GNOME, but many improvements would need to be made. That does not appear to be happening. That could be because they're unaware of the major problems with their product. I will alert them, as well as potential users, to such problems.
Indeed, you are correct. The GNOME file selector used by Firefox 1.0.7 is quite terrible. It isn't as intuitive as the file selectors offered by KDE, Mac OS X and even Windows. But more importantly, it doesn't offer any additional benefit to account for the lack of intuitiveness.