I can't wait to try out the new "Flock my Cock" capabilities of this browser. My penis, although highly impotent, may just stand at attention when bombarded with numerous images of highly interactive, collaborative pornography. I bet it will really revel my raft!
Wired states (http://www.wired.com/news/technology/0,1282,68823 ,00.html) that it's based off of Firefox. It is even developed by a member of the Mozilla Foundation. So perhaps a better question to ask would be, Is this browser meant to compete directly with Firefox and Seamonkey?
I've heard rumors that it is based off of Konqueror. Since it seems that it cannot be downloaded at this time, can anyone who has used it comment on the validity of such rumors? If they are true, is it based on Konqueror itself, or does it just the KHTML rendering engine?
Invade? No. But to express joy at the destruction of freedoms and liberties in another nation? Never would a true American patriot do such a thing.
Regarding your half-assed attempt at a point, it's quite obvious anyone with a brain, be him or her liberal, conservative, libertarian, socialst, etc., that the Iraq and Afghanistan invasions were not and are not about freedom, nor democracy, nor liberty.
Why would it make you, as an American (or so you claim), glad that the freedom of the citizens of another nation have been eroded? A true American, one who actually believes in the ideals of freedom and liberty expressed by the Founding Fathers, would be horrified and disgusted by this development.
But many of these sites are also businesses, and it makes no sense for them to provide business to their direct competitors. It would be like Amazon referring you to Barnes & Noble if you cannot find the book you're looking for at Amazon.
I'm not sure what dialect of Chinese they speak in Shanghai, but when I was there for business several years back I do recall seeing an incident involving the word "ning".
I think there were some young adults playing football (soccer, for you American folk) on a side street, and one of them got kicked in his genitals. I recall his friends yelling "NING! repeatedly. Does "ning" refer to the genitals themselves, or is it just part of a Chinese phrase used when genital injuries occur? Is it like the "kicked" in "You just got kicked in the nuts!" or is it the "nuts"?
This seems like the sort of market where perhaps one or two major sites is all that is needed. First of all, you'll get the widest slice of the community with only a few major providers, rather than a few hundred smaller, more specific sites with a far smaller proportion of the population subscribed.
So while there could be a site for UNIX aficionados, and another for horse lovers, it'd be difficult to find somebody interested in both UNIX and horses when the smaller, specific sites are common. Both people could be listed in the more general, and larger, site. And thus it'd be easier to query for those interested in both UNIX and horses at once.
They owe us all a full investigation into this matter. We need the name(s) of the person/people who failed to keep these servers updated. Why? Well, the SpreadFirefox site first needs to show that they take security seriously, especially after these numerous breaches. Thus they need to stop letting these people maintain their servers. Second, we all need to know who these people are so that we never have any serious business relationships with them. They are obviously unfit to run servers.
Perahps because that does not appeal to the Chinese politically. And the next 20 to 50 years will witness the rise of the Chinese economic market. A market that is more than likely going to be far more massive than that of the US and Europe combined.
After the last incident I was promised by a Mozilla Foundation employee, even if not talking on behalf of the foundation, that steps were being taken to prevent such incidents from ever happening again (let alone a few months later).
You act like it's exemplary of them to alert their users to security breaches that may have compromised those users' data, just because many commercial entities won't do that. I'd say that's an incorrect attitude to take.
SpreadFirefox isn't any better off for alerting the community to these incidents. They're just doing what they should be doing. It's those who do not send out alerts who are truly the awful ones.
Sending out this alert does not right the situation, however. Since this isn't the first incident, it is time for an inquiry to be held. We need to know the names of the people who are responsible for this incident. Taking decisive action like that will give Mozilla true credibility.
Of course, open source projects need all the help they can get. But they don't need help in the form of compromised servers. Sometimes it's better to go without than to go with that which is harmful.
You should trust our competency because we almost always stay up-to-date with the latest security updates to all installed software and because we're revising our security plan and procedures to seal up the cracks that this particular software update fell through.
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http://it.slashdot.org/comments.pl?sid=155997&cid= 13079261 by mykmelez (6506) on Friday July 15, @08:12PM You should trust the foundation's competency because they almost always stay up-to-date with the latest security updates to all installed software and because they are revising their security plan and procedures to make ensure that this lapse in the application of security updates does not recur.
I was assured by a Mozilla Foundation employee, even if he was speaking for himself and not the foundation, that an incident like this would not happen again.
Frankly, in the world of computer security and server administration, I'd say two strikes are more than enough. Perhaps it is time to get rid of those who cannot maintain a server properly, and protect the data of many thousands of users.
Perhaps it's even time for a public inquiry into this matter. We need to know the name of the person(s) who is/are responsible for these numerous lapses. We need accountability. While an open source project does need all the help it can get, it does not need help that leads to the data of so many users being compromised.
While I am an ardent open source supporter, I will not use Mozilla products until people are held responsible for these mistakes. I will stick to Konqueror and Opera, thank you.
There are the original TPC tape images included, and then those same images in SIMH format. Then there's an archive of the extracted files, and the archive is also extracted.
There's not much more to be said. The KOffice developer who tossed out the insults has made the project look quite bad. And indeed, it's good that we agree on the fact that many open source developers do need to increase their level of professionalism. If software like KOffice is ever to be widely used by business users, then the developers will need to project a professional and trustworthy image.
That's one of those ideas that sounds all good and well, but it hardly works in practice. In many cases, downtime is unacceptable. You need transactions processed continually, and you cannot have downtime caused by a dead server.
It is not a good idea to build a system out of parts that you know will fail, and then proceed to design the system around such failure. A far better idea is to spend some money, and design a system that will work. Of course you do take into account hardware failure, and you build in redundancy where necessary. But you do not build your solution around knowingly faulty and cheap hardware. That's just looking for trouble.
Often times the "cheap" solution ends up being most expensive, not only because of the cost of repeated hardware repairs, but also because of the cost of the labour necessary to perform the repairs, and the possibility of downtime. When you're processing millions of dollars worth of transactions per minute (if not per second), even a couple of minutes of downtime can be financially costly.
There are many in the corporate world who will not use open source software because of personalities like RMS and others. That said, at least Stallman is professional in presenting his opinions, even if they differ from the norm. He does not resort to blatant insults while acting as a representative of the GNU project or the FSF.
Like I've stated time and time again, I don't care about the insults themselves. What bothers me, as a long-time KDE user, is that this developer is ruining the public image of the KDE and KOffice projects. I disagree with KDE-related developers throwing out such insults, whether they are directed at me or others.
It's quite important that the developers put out a professional image. It does, like it or not, reflect on their code quality. A coder who is sloppy in their public image could very well be sloppy when programming. Many CTOs and other such executives will not take that risk when making decisions that could have massive financial ramifications.
The topic at hand was the acceptance of KOffice in the consumer and corporate markets. If they want to be used in the enterprise, then they will need to show a basic degree of formalism.
Even if your Aunt Sally doesn't demand professionalism when it comes to the developer of her office suite, basically everyone in the corporate world does. If the KOffice team wishes for their product to become more widely used, then they cannot have rogue developers going around insulting users.
It isn't about me at all. He's just lucky that I'm not a CTO deciding whether we should go with a Linux and KDE-based solution for our corporate network, or if we should use Windows and Office instead. Many CTOs would not take kindly to being insulted by the developers of the software they're considering using.
If he is unable to show basic professional courtesy, then perhaps he should not be working on a project such as KOffice which strives to be used in an environment where professionalism is the norm.
But the basic point still stands: regardless of your business, be it developing open source software or selling fries, you never insult your customers in public.
Loki ported SimCity 3000, which uses DirectX under Windows if I'm not mistaken, to Linux a while back. The Linux release of SimCity 3000 played just as well, if not better, than the Windows release. No stability problems of any sort.
So while perhaps not a fun task porting from DirectX to SDL and OpenGL (or some other non-DirectX graphics platform), it is more than possible.
Will it be available for PPC systems running Linux? If they're targetting PPC Mac OS X and Intel Linux, then it is quite likely that PPC Linux could be supported as well. But are they actually offering such binary releases for sale?
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I can't wait to try out the new "Flock my Cock" capabilities of this browser. My penis, although highly impotent, may just stand at attention when bombarded with numerous images of highly interactive, collaborative pornography. I bet it will really revel my raft!
According to this Wired article, it is being developed by Bart Decrem, who they state is a member of the Mozilla Foundation.
Wired states (http://www.wired.com/news/technology/0,1282,68823 ,00.html) that it's based off of Firefox. It is even developed by a member of the Mozilla Foundation. So perhaps a better question to ask would be, Is this browser meant to compete directly with Firefox and Seamonkey?
It appears that their site fails to validate, at least according to the W3C Markup Validator.
k .com/home/
l la.orga .comu eror.org
http://validator.w3.org/check?uri=http://www.floc
I would have expected the web page of a web browser to at least be standards-compliant. The Mozilla, Opera and Konqueror pages all validate cleanly:
http://validator.w3.org/check?uri=http://www.mozi
http://validator.w3.org/check?uri=http://www.oper
http://validator.w3.org/check?uri=http://www.konq
I've heard rumors that it is based off of Konqueror. Since it seems that it cannot be downloaded at this time, can anyone who has used it comment on the validity of such rumors? If they are true, is it based on Konqueror itself, or does it just the KHTML rendering engine?
Invade? No. But to express joy at the destruction of freedoms and liberties in another nation? Never would a true American patriot do such a thing.
Regarding your half-assed attempt at a point, it's quite obvious anyone with a brain, be him or her liberal, conservative, libertarian, socialst, etc., that the Iraq and Afghanistan invasions were not and are not about freedom, nor democracy, nor liberty.
Why would it make you, as an American (or so you claim), glad that the freedom of the citizens of another nation have been eroded? A true American, one who actually believes in the ideals of freedom and liberty expressed by the Founding Fathers, would be horrified and disgusted by this development.
But many of these sites are also businesses, and it makes no sense for them to provide business to their direct competitors. It would be like Amazon referring you to Barnes & Noble if you cannot find the book you're looking for at Amazon.
I'm not sure what dialect of Chinese they speak in Shanghai, but when I was there for business several years back I do recall seeing an incident involving the word "ning".
I think there were some young adults playing football (soccer, for you American folk) on a side street, and one of them got kicked in his genitals. I recall his friends yelling "NING! repeatedly. Does "ning" refer to the genitals themselves, or is it just part of a Chinese phrase used when genital injuries occur? Is it like the "kicked" in "You just got kicked in the nuts!" or is it the "nuts"?
This seems like the sort of market where perhaps one or two major sites is all that is needed. First of all, you'll get the widest slice of the community with only a few major providers, rather than a few hundred smaller, more specific sites with a far smaller proportion of the population subscribed.
So while there could be a site for UNIX aficionados, and another for horse lovers, it'd be difficult to find somebody interested in both UNIX and horses when the smaller, specific sites are common. Both people could be listed in the more general, and larger, site. And thus it'd be easier to query for those interested in both UNIX and horses at once.
"I'm going to ravage your mother."
You go ahead and do that. But don't forget to bring a shovel. You'll need it to dig her rotten corpse out of the ground.
They owe us all a full investigation into this matter. We need the name(s) of the person/people who failed to keep these servers updated. Why? Well, the SpreadFirefox site first needs to show that they take security seriously, especially after these numerous breaches. Thus they need to stop letting these people maintain their servers. Second, we all need to know who these people are so that we never have any serious business relationships with them. They are obviously unfit to run servers.
Perahps because that does not appeal to the Chinese politically. And the next 20 to 50 years will witness the rise of the Chinese economic market. A market that is more than likely going to be far more massive than that of the US and Europe combined.
After the last incident I was promised by a Mozilla Foundation employee, even if not talking on behalf of the foundation, that steps were being taken to prevent such incidents from ever happening again (let alone a few months later).
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Please see the Slashdot comments:
http://it.slashdot.org/comments.pl?sid=155997&cid
http://it.slashdot.org/comments.pl?sid=155997&cid
We were promised that this would not happen again. Yet it did.
You act like it's exemplary of them to alert their users to security breaches that may have compromised those users' data, just because many commercial entities won't do that. I'd say that's an incorrect attitude to take.
SpreadFirefox isn't any better off for alerting the community to these incidents. They're just doing what they should be doing. It's those who do not send out alerts who are truly the awful ones.
Sending out this alert does not right the situation, however. Since this isn't the first incident, it is time for an inquiry to be held. We need to know the names of the people who are responsible for this incident. Taking decisive action like that will give Mozilla true credibility.
Of course, open source projects need all the help they can get. But they don't need help in the form of compromised servers. Sometimes it's better to go without than to go with that which is harmful.
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I was assured by a Mozilla Foundation employee, even if he was speaking for himself and not the foundation, that an incident like this would not happen again.
Frankly, in the world of computer security and server administration, I'd say two strikes are more than enough. Perhaps it is time to get rid of those who cannot maintain a server properly, and protect the data of many thousands of users.
Perhaps it's even time for a public inquiry into this matter. We need to know the name of the person(s) who is/are responsible for these numerous lapses. We need accountability. While an open source project does need all the help it can get, it does not need help that leads to the data of so many users being compromised.
While I am an ardent open source supporter, I will not use Mozilla products until people are held responsible for these mistakes. I will stick to Konqueror and Opera, thank you.
There are the original TPC tape images included, and then those same images in SIMH format. Then there's an archive of the extracted files, and the archive is also extracted.
There's not much more to be said. The KOffice developer who tossed out the insults has made the project look quite bad. And indeed, it's good that we agree on the fact that many open source developers do need to increase their level of professionalism. If software like KOffice is ever to be widely used by business users, then the developers will need to project a professional and trustworthy image.
That's one of those ideas that sounds all good and well, but it hardly works in practice. In many cases, downtime is unacceptable. You need transactions processed continually, and you cannot have downtime caused by a dead server.
It is not a good idea to build a system out of parts that you know will fail, and then proceed to design the system around such failure. A far better idea is to spend some money, and design a system that will work. Of course you do take into account hardware failure, and you build in redundancy where necessary. But you do not build your solution around knowingly faulty and cheap hardware. That's just looking for trouble.
Often times the "cheap" solution ends up being most expensive, not only because of the cost of repeated hardware repairs, but also because of the cost of the labour necessary to perform the repairs, and the possibility of downtime. When you're processing millions of dollars worth of transactions per minute (if not per second), even a couple of minutes of downtime can be financially costly.
Do you work for 37 Signals?
There are many in the corporate world who will not use open source software because of personalities like RMS and others. That said, at least Stallman is professional in presenting his opinions, even if they differ from the norm. He does not resort to blatant insults while acting as a representative of the GNU project or the FSF.
Like I've stated time and time again, I don't care about the insults themselves. What bothers me, as a long-time KDE user, is that this developer is ruining the public image of the KDE and KOffice projects. I disagree with KDE-related developers throwing out such insults, whether they are directed at me or others.
It's quite important that the developers put out a professional image. It does, like it or not, reflect on their code quality. A coder who is sloppy in their public image could very well be sloppy when programming. Many CTOs and other such executives will not take that risk when making decisions that could have massive financial ramifications.
The topic at hand was the acceptance of KOffice in the consumer and corporate markets. If they want to be used in the enterprise, then they will need to show a basic degree of formalism.
Even if your Aunt Sally doesn't demand professionalism when it comes to the developer of her office suite, basically everyone in the corporate world does. If the KOffice team wishes for their product to become more widely used, then they cannot have rogue developers going around insulting users.
It isn't about me at all. He's just lucky that I'm not a CTO deciding whether we should go with a Linux and KDE-based solution for our corporate network, or if we should use Windows and Office instead. Many CTOs would not take kindly to being insulted by the developers of the software they're considering using.
If he is unable to show basic professional courtesy, then perhaps he should not be working on a project such as KOffice which strives to be used in an environment where professionalism is the norm.
But the basic point still stands: regardless of your business, be it developing open source software or selling fries, you never insult your customers in public.
Loki ported SimCity 3000, which uses DirectX under Windows if I'm not mistaken, to Linux a while back. The Linux release of SimCity 3000 played just as well, if not better, than the Windows release. No stability problems of any sort.
So while perhaps not a fun task porting from DirectX to SDL and OpenGL (or some other non-DirectX graphics platform), it is more than possible.
Will it be available for PPC systems running Linux? If they're targetting PPC Mac OS X and Intel Linux, then it is quite likely that PPC Linux could be supported as well. But are they actually offering such binary releases for sale?