My girlfriend, and a few of my cousins are teachers. And while my girlfriend was in "grad" school to get her credential, my place was the prefer choice for her and her friends to have their study sessions. All of whom I am good friends with and I am also good friends with many of High School teachers.
Like your wife, my girlfriend works very hard at her job and put in a lot of hours. But, she also has over twice as much paid holidays as I do, 15 days of personal time off and 5 sick days.
And, I know that most of her teacher friends and coworkers are winging it at their jobs. Don't even get me started on primary school teachers picking what subject to teach or not teach base on their personal preferences; math should not be an elective in primary school.
As for the average starting salaries for engineers being higher than teachers, I agree with you. My taking a job for way below my market value was a personal choice, a choice to be part of something I wanted and love.
But it is also an unfair comparison; most teachers majored in liberal arts and can't be engineers or scientist.
From the many teachers I personally know, teaching is probably the highest paying job they can get.
It is not that I feel teachers don't deserve to have a higher starting salary than me. Good teachers are worth their weight in gold.
The point I am trying to make is that teachers are well paid.
1. Their starting salary is up to 10k more than the average starting salary of a college grad.
2. They salary cap is nearing 6 figures... most college graduates never come close to that in their career.
And I believe many who would make great teachers never look into it as a career because they believe the pay for teachers are low. If it was better known how well teachers are paid, there will be a better pool of candidates to select from.
Also, in Southern California, there are many more candidates than there are positions open. I have many friends/family who are teachers or would be teachers and their career and well-being is of personal interest to me.
My concerns are how America view education and teachers. Both of which are unfairly negatively viewed, imho. I believe you misread my previous posts. And if you believe my concerns only matters to me... than you personify what is wrong with Education in our country.
I totally disagree. I believe one of the reasons education has problem finding people is because of the myth perpetuated by Teacher Unions, that teachers are poorly paid.
In Southern California, the starting salary for a primary school teacher is 42-45k(working only 9 months), that's way above the starting salary for college grad. And their salary doesn't cap until it reaches almost 6 figures. I started my career making only 35k.
The Chinese have the education but not the language
This is no longer true. As of last year, China has started producing graduates from their primary education system with English fully integrated in their curriculum, just like India. Fast forward another 3 years and those students will be graduating from college. Not to mention that china is producing college grads that has English integrated in ALMOST ALL of their education Today.
We Americans need to invest more in education and encourage our younglings to enter fields that will help us keep our economic and technical advantage. It is sad when I see college students selecting majors base on what is easiest or cool instead of what will best help them provide for their family, improve themselves, and help support their country.
For that kind of money, they could have bought Bea System Inc. Their valuation is $3.42 billion today.
Java is supposed to be Sun's big thing. And buying the #2 App Server company will go a long way in helping Sun in the java market. And help Sun improve its software business which I believe is higher margin than hardware.
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My girlfriend, and a few of my cousins are teachers. And while my girlfriend was in "grad" school to get her credential, my place was the prefer choice for her and her friends to have their study sessions. All of whom I am good friends with and I am also good friends with many of High School teachers. Like your wife, my girlfriend works very hard at her job and put in a lot of hours. But, she also has over twice as much paid holidays as I do, 15 days of personal time off and 5 sick days. And, I know that most of her teacher friends and coworkers are winging it at their jobs. Don't even get me started on primary school teachers picking what subject to teach or not teach base on their personal preferences; math should not be an elective in primary school. As for the average starting salaries for engineers being higher than teachers, I agree with you. My taking a job for way below my market value was a personal choice, a choice to be part of something I wanted and love. But it is also an unfair comparison; most teachers majored in liberal arts and can't be engineers or scientist. From the many teachers I personally know, teaching is probably the highest paying job they can get.
It is not that I feel teachers don't deserve to have a higher starting salary than me. Good teachers are worth their weight in gold. The point I am trying to make is that teachers are well paid. 1. Their starting salary is up to 10k more than the average starting salary of a college grad. 2. They salary cap is nearing 6 figures ... most college graduates never come close to that in their career.
And I believe many who would make great teachers never look into it as a career because they believe the pay for teachers are low. If it was better known how well teachers are paid, there will be a better pool of candidates to select from.
Also, in Southern California, there are many more candidates than there are positions open. I have many friends/family who are teachers or would be teachers and their career and well-being is of personal interest to me.
My concerns are how America view education and teachers. Both of which are unfairly negatively viewed, imho. I believe you misread my previous posts. And if you believe my concerns only matters to me ... than you personify what is wrong with Education in our country.
I totally disagree. I believe one of the reasons education has problem finding people is because of the myth perpetuated by Teacher Unions, that teachers are poorly paid. In Southern California, the starting salary for a primary school teacher is 42-45k(working only 9 months), that's way above the starting salary for college grad. And their salary doesn't cap until it reaches almost 6 figures. I started my career making only 35k.
This is no longer true. As of last year, China has started producing graduates from their primary education system with English fully integrated in their curriculum, just like India. Fast forward another 3 years and those students will be graduating from college. Not to mention that china is producing college grads that has English integrated in ALMOST ALL of their education Today.
We Americans need to invest more in education and encourage our younglings to enter fields that will help us keep our economic and technical advantage. It is sad when I see college students selecting majors base on what is easiest or cool instead of what will best help them provide for their family, improve themselves, and help support their country.
For that kind of money, they could have bought Bea System Inc. Their valuation is $3.42 billion today.
Java is supposed to be Sun's big thing. And buying the #2 App Server company will go a long way in helping Sun in the java market. And help Sun improve its software business which I believe is higher margin than hardware.