The collages (public and private) are corrupt and deeply involved in this problem.
I think that is the core problem right there. The ROI analysis is a problem, because people before college cannot usually do them yet. They are dependent on the offering actually being quality and offered in good faith. If colleges turn into scams, a lot of people are vulnerable to being ripped off.
It has nothing to do with Socialism. In most of Europe University if free or costs a token amount. This has not driven quality into the ground. What you actually observe is a market failure where blind trust in capitalism has turned out to be very, very stupid, because capitalism as practiced today is all about short-term profits and no strategic view.
It means that a large part of students do not have access to academic education worth its money. They have basically been ripped off. Now, whenever somebody posts here that college or university is not worth it, I typically strongly disagreed. But if academic education in the US is actually this bad (at least in Europe it is not), then I see their point. A good academic education is still worth all the time and money you invest, but if you cannot get a good one, then the situation is really bad.
Actually, it is my preferred approach to anything difficult that needs insight. The thing that happens is that some limited initial look at the problem subconscious keeps working on the problem and throws me ideas at a low rate. At some time I have everything needed for a good solution and can get to work very efficiently. I can start working on such things immediately, but it takes more work and the results are worse. Would not surprise me one bit if there were quite a few other people out there that use this approach as well.
While science rediscovering things is somewhat embarrassing for the researchers involved, it is better than when these known things stay hidden from most people. In this case, they delivered additional evidence for a known thing, and that is proper, valuable scientific progress.
Indeed. Education, health, culture, etc. The waste is incredible. And if you consider that these things are primarily for killing people and destroying wealth, the price is even higher.
I agree, we do not. But it is not the case that he can get 14 months for murder instead of something more appropriate as implied. Anyways, being able to force people to hand over something they know (passwords, e.g.) is hugely problematic and incompatible with a free society. People must be allowed to keep everything in their minds secret that they wish to. It is the job of the police to find physical evidence or witnesses, not to force confessions of whatever things an accused person knows. Because if they start doing that, they will also start to force false confessions (passwords are a slippery slope here) and that must not happen in a free society.
No. He is getting 14 months now while the police gets the Facebook access another way. If there is evidence in there, he may still get the murder conviction on top.
Oh, yes. I once went to a "Introduction to formal logic" class for students of philosophy, and it was utterly pathetic. The lecturer was clueless. The students were clueless. They needed 2 months to finish propositional logic and that was without any actual real use of the stuff. In CS, we basically did that in a week and then a couple more weeks for simplification, modelling stuff, model-checking, tautology checks, all with complexity proofs, etc. To add insult to injury, that was an elective course in philosophy, were of course the CS course was mandatory and covered other stuff as well.
Now, don't get me wrong. Philosophy done right is really hard. But it seems it is not taught that way today at all. My CS course was.
Honor is exactly the problem. Not the only place where that can be observed, though. For a bug-bounty program to be successful, you need to be generous with the payouts. You need to recognize, applaud and reward the people that hand in things, even if they are not quite in scope. It is still far cheaper than paying real security experts to do an in-dept evaluation. But if you give the impression that it is questionable whether you will pay at all, people will just go elsewhere and the whole thing becomes marketing BS. Being cheap here is very, very expensive.
Rough English translation: "Those who measure measure crap". Doing good measurements is difficult and you learn a lot refining your methods. You may also find effects you did not expect. That is why Physicists actually highly respect those that seem to do nothing than refine some measurement. It is effort well spent.
Indeed. They probably have some severe KISS violations in their code, very few people these days can make things simple. And simple is the very foundation of portable, reliable, maintainable and secure.
You need new measures for stupidity and disconnectedness from reality for sure. And while a look at authoritarian rulers in history finds people about as dysfunctional, they rarely were voted into office.
And that makes you a bad engineer, or rather a bad technician. The term "engineer" is reserved for people that actually care. If you do not care about doping technology right, the only place you have in its world is at the bottom. Your attitude may explain why there is so much bad code that cost so much money in the end.
Waste of my time. My services are announced on the Internet and my rate is high. If they were actually looking they would find me. Also, nobody said anything about "that easy", except you. What I said is that the standard libraries will do fine, not that it is easy using them.
And when I download a source package (not distro-specific) and compile that, I usually do have not have these problems either. Sure, there is bad software in the FOSS landscape, and quite a bit of it, but the good stuff shows that this is not a problem of the platform. But you have a valid point, even if indirectly: Many Linux users do not know how to compile stuff from sources these days.
Incidentally, the art of high-performance coding seems to be lost today with all that Java and scripting everywhere. I did some performance-critical coding for a Fortune 500 recently and they were unhappy when I told them "about 100us per request" as final performance and said they expected this to work about 5...10 times faster. That was until I repeated the "micro". They though that number was (of course) milliseconds. People in IT have gotten used to really slow code, unfortunately.
The stdio library is insufficient for the performance and handling they do.
Bullshit. The standard library is sufficient for anything the machine can deliver in performance. If they claim need more, then they have some severe design defects in their system.
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No one is talking about loan forgiveness. What the article is about the mess they and society are in.
That is the best summary of the problem so far.
The collages (public and private) are corrupt and deeply involved in this problem.
I think that is the core problem right there. The ROI analysis is a problem, because people before college cannot usually do them yet. They are dependent on the offering actually being quality and offered in good faith. If colleges turn into scams, a lot of people are vulnerable to being ripped off.
It has nothing to do with Socialism. In most of Europe University if free or costs a token amount. This has not driven quality into the ground. What you actually observe is a market failure where blind trust in capitalism has turned out to be very, very stupid, because capitalism as practiced today is all about short-term profits and no strategic view.
It means that a large part of students do not have access to academic education worth its money. They have basically been ripped off. Now, whenever somebody posts here that college or university is not worth it, I typically strongly disagreed. But if academic education in the US is actually this bad (at least in Europe it is not), then I see their point. A good academic education is still worth all the time and money you invest, but if you cannot get a good one, then the situation is really bad.
You have a point.
Long-term, you are certainly right.
Actually, it is my preferred approach to anything difficult that needs insight. The thing that happens is that some limited initial look at the problem subconscious keeps working on the problem and throws me ideas at a low rate. At some time I have everything needed for a good solution and can get to work very efficiently. I can start working on such things immediately, but it takes more work and the results are worse. Would not surprise me one bit if there were quite a few other people out there that use this approach as well.
While science rediscovering things is somewhat embarrassing for the researchers involved, it is better than when these known things stay hidden from most people. In this case, they delivered additional evidence for a known thing, and that is proper, valuable scientific progress.
Indeed. Education, health, culture, etc. The waste is incredible. And if you consider that these things are primarily for killing people and destroying wealth, the price is even higher.
I agree, we do not. But it is not the case that he can get 14 months for murder instead of something more appropriate as implied. Anyways, being able to force people to hand over something they know (passwords, e.g.) is hugely problematic and incompatible with a free society. People must be allowed to keep everything in their minds secret that they wish to. It is the job of the police to find physical evidence or witnesses, not to force confessions of whatever things an accused person knows. Because if they start doing that, they will also start to force false confessions (passwords are a slippery slope here) and that must not happen in a free society.
No. He is getting 14 months now while the police gets the Facebook access another way. If there is evidence in there, he may still get the murder conviction on top.
You are right, of course. That happens when I write German (I am a native speaker) while thinking in English...
Oh, yes. I once went to a "Introduction to formal logic" class for students of philosophy, and it was utterly pathetic. The lecturer was clueless. The students were clueless. They needed 2 months to finish propositional logic and that was without any actual real use of the stuff. In CS, we basically did that in a week and then a couple more weeks for simplification, modelling stuff, model-checking, tautology checks, all with complexity proofs, etc. To add insult to injury, that was an elective course in philosophy, were of course the CS course was mandatory and covered other stuff as well.
Now, don't get me wrong. Philosophy done right is really hard. But it seems it is not taught that way today at all. My CS course was.
Honor is exactly the problem. Not the only place where that can be observed, though. For a bug-bounty program to be successful, you need to be generous with the payouts. You need to recognize, applaud and reward the people that hand in things, even if they are not quite in scope. It is still far cheaper than paying real security experts to do an in-dept evaluation. But if you give the impression that it is questionable whether you will pay at all, people will just go elsewhere and the whole thing becomes marketing BS. Being cheap here is very, very expensive.
And that _is_ something interesting! Why are these measurements all over the place? Nobody knows at this time.
Rough English translation: "Those who measure measure crap". Doing good measurements is difficult and you learn a lot refining your methods. You may also find effects you did not expect. That is why Physicists actually highly respect those that seem to do nothing than refine some measurement. It is effort well spent.
Indeed. They probably have some severe KISS violations in their code, very few people these days can make things simple. And simple is the very foundation of portable, reliable, maintainable and secure.
You need new measures for stupidity and disconnectedness from reality for sure. And while a look at authoritarian rulers in history finds people about as dysfunctional, they rarely were voted into office.
Trade secret. I am not even allowed to admit I worked on this for them. Are you clueless as to how commercial coding works?
And that makes you a bad engineer, or rather a bad technician. The term "engineer" is reserved for people that actually care. If you do not care about doping technology right, the only place you have in its world is at the bottom. Your attitude may explain why there is so much bad code that cost so much money in the end.
Waste of my time. My services are announced on the Internet and my rate is high. If they were actually looking they would find me. Also, nobody said anything about "that easy", except you. What I said is that the standard libraries will do fine, not that it is easy using them.
And when I download a source package (not distro-specific) and compile that, I usually do have not have these problems either. Sure, there is bad software in the FOSS landscape, and quite a bit of it, but the good stuff shows that this is not a problem of the platform. But you have a valid point, even if indirectly: Many Linux users do not know how to compile stuff from sources these days.
Incidentally, the art of high-performance coding seems to be lost today with all that Java and scripting everywhere. I did some performance-critical coding for a Fortune 500 recently and they were unhappy when I told them "about 100us per request" as final performance and said they expected this to work about 5...10 times faster. That was until I repeated the "micro". They though that number was (of course) milliseconds. People in IT have gotten used to really slow code, unfortunately.
Would not surprise me one bit.
The stdio library is insufficient for the performance and handling they do.
Bullshit. The standard library is sufficient for anything the machine can deliver in performance. If they claim need more, then they have some severe design defects in their system.