You see the problem here is on your side. Because I do know what I can do and have done and am doing, your attack does not work even one bit. What you are doing is trying to play on the insecurities most more capable people have (see, for example, the Dunning-Kruger effect: those on the right side are, on average, a lot less sure of their skills than the nil-whits on the left side). Your problem here is that I am far-right in that graph, and I know it. Some random AC cowardly sniping from the shadows is not going to land any shots. But go ahead, you hostility brings a big smile to my face, because you are assuredly a big looser. And yes, I am trolling you and you are falling for it.
Oh, I am using good tools. And I do insist on good tools. After some evaluation I just found that systemd was not a good tool from available evidence. Not that this was any surprise, that it is pretty bad was clear from a purely theoretical appreciation.
I suspect that the developers were out of their depth. Probably not formally trained.
Same here. Or they failed to learn anything from their formal training. They are clearly inexperienced and have no business working on such a critical component. Now, I would not mind if systemd had remained their obscure hobbyist project. I do mind that the most efficient way to deal with their crap is to rip it out and that I have to do that on basically any new Linux installation I make.
Yes, me too. Oh, sure, there are quite a few people that are engineers and scientists by title only. But there are almost no scientists and engineers without the title, despite what some failures with big egos like to claim.
Indeed. If you put something out there, expect feedback and expect that some of it you will not like. That is just how things are set up. If you want unquestioning admiration only, you need to stay within a filter-bubble that assures this.
She was more than a "bit" rude, she was openly sexist. Using the term "mansplaining" is quite enough for that. She did this while acting in a professional capability, which happens automatically when she discusses her work and she was rightfully fired for it. Then some male sexists (just as much scum) jumped on this.
Yep. It is about money and power and those believing in the cause are used as just useful idiots. And yes, same with religion and other similar things.
Ah, well. Some "professionals" cannot stand questions regarding their work. It points to a character flaw. Any real professional is happy do discuss their work, their rationales, their insights and their limits because they care about the subject and not about appearing as some kind us supreme, infallible expert that must not be questioned. I mean, what was she thinking how people would react? And if somebody states a counterpoint and asks for clarification, that is just normal, civilized discourse.
And that goes for both genders. For some reason, many female sexists were not seen as sexist and that is stopping now. Good.
Maybe we can stop listening to these people altogether, regardless of form, size of shape. Same for racists. It is always only about elevating themselves and putting down others.
Funny. The last time somebody ID'd me, they claimed I was the janitor breaking onto my own office and posting as me because they just could not believe what they found. Really amused me, same as this.
It seems like so many people think mature software is bad or something.
It does indeed. Must be some deranged idea about "old"="bad".
To me as a *user*, Systemd feels like a solution in search of a problem. I know the distro/package maintainers like it because it creates less work for them, but I think this is a case where the distro/package maintainers have forgotten at least 1 of their goals: to make it easier on the user.
This often happens when the original creators move out and the 2nd rated people take over: They think they can do better than the original creators and usually they mess it up because they completely overlook fundamental things like this. "Linux is about freedom" very much means it lets you tinker with it and all things that can reasonably be made relatively easy to change, are. sysIV init has that. The systemD people do not even seem to be aware of the idea.
I had systemd run maybe for a combined 10h so far, in a number of new installations. Nothing but problems. Even the one where I originally thought I could leave it in (Orange Pi zero), it caused serious problems and ripping it just out for sysIV init was far easier than to track down and solve its obscure issues.
It is like Windows: Unless you do exactly what the "developers" ("cretins" would be a more appropriate term...) expect, it falls flat on its face and it is maximally unhelpful when you try to find out what is wrong. That is not anything I will tolerate in a Linux installation.
Funny, I am a scientist and an engineer, and I can evolve. But since I am a good scientist and a good engineer, I will not evolve in a bad direction, and hence I will not use systemd. Live is just to short to use crappy unnecessary improvements made by people with small skills and huge egos.
Mindlessly running after a really demented hype is not "evolution". The correct term is "devolution" and it is not a good thing.
Incidentally, if you cannot recognize and build on things that are in a finished state and are more than good enough, then you are most definitely not a scientist or an engineer. Then you are just a hack.
They don't. But since most people (including the ones publishing such benchmarks) really do not understand anything about browsers or what matters and what does not, we will get these demented comparisons for the foreseeable future.
You must be one of these "cyberterrorists" I keep hearing so much about! Nobody else has anything to hide, after all. I think they should lock you up immediately, or better, "accidentally" kill you on arrest.
Browser speed is not a factor today. The only reason for these comparisons is that most people do not have what it takes to do more than compare a (meaningless) number.
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Hehehehehe, more missing the mark. Nice.
You see the problem here is on your side. Because I do know what I can do and have done and am doing, your attack does not work even one bit. What you are doing is trying to play on the insecurities most more capable people have (see, for example, the Dunning-Kruger effect: those on the right side are, on average, a lot less sure of their skills than the nil-whits on the left side). Your problem here is that I am far-right in that graph, and I know it. Some random AC cowardly sniping from the shadows is not going to land any shots. But go ahead, you hostility brings a big smile to my face, because you are assuredly a big looser. And yes, I am trolling you and you are falling for it.
Funny how so many people run into things in actual reality that according to you are "not true". You are just a liar.
Oh, I am using good tools. And I do insist on good tools. After some evaluation I just found that systemd was not a good tool from available evidence. Not that this was any surprise, that it is pretty bad was clear from a purely theoretical appreciation.
Nice. And empty, probably much like your head. Makes it easy to just discount anything you say as less than worthless.
I suspect that the developers were out of their depth. Probably not formally trained.
Same here. Or they failed to learn anything from their formal training. They are clearly inexperienced and have no business working on such a critical component. Now, I would not mind if systemd had remained their obscure hobbyist project. I do mind that the most efficient way to deal with their crap is to rip it out and that I have to do that on basically any new Linux installation I make.
Yes, me too. Oh, sure, there are quite a few people that are engineers and scientists by title only. But there are almost no scientists and engineers without the title, despite what some failures with big egos like to claim.
Indeed. If you put something out there, expect feedback and expect that some of it you will not like. That is just how things are set up. If you want unquestioning admiration only, you need to stay within a filter-bubble that assures this.
We also have misandrism on the Internet. The only sane thing is to either fight both or tolerate both. Any preference is sexist.
She was more than a "bit" rude, she was openly sexist. Using the term "mansplaining" is quite enough for that. She did this while acting in a professional capability, which happens automatically when she discusses her work and she was rightfully fired for it. Then some male sexists (just as much scum) jumped on this.
Yep. It is about money and power and those believing in the cause are used as just useful idiots. And yes, same with religion and other similar things.
If you cannot turn the genders around and find the speech and behavior acceptable, it isn't acceptable, period.
And that is the only standard that counts. Female sexism is just as despicable, repulsive and toxic as male sexism.
Ah, well. Some "professionals" cannot stand questions regarding their work. It points to a character flaw. Any real professional is happy do discuss their work, their rationales, their insights and their limits because they care about the subject and not about appearing as some kind us supreme, infallible expert that must not be questioned. I mean, what was she thinking how people would react? And if somebody states a counterpoint and asks for clarification, that is just normal, civilized discourse.
And that goes for both genders. For some reason, many female sexists were not seen as sexist and that is stopping now. Good.
Maybe we can stop listening to these people altogether, regardless of form, size of shape. Same for racists. It is always only about elevating themselves and putting down others.
Once again. I see nothing here that would indicate anything else.
Funny. The last time somebody ID'd me, they claimed I was the janitor breaking onto my own office and posting as me because they just could not believe what they found. Really amused me, same as this.
You must be new to /. (Yes, I have seen your ID.)
My impression is that you are unable to actually recognize scientists and engineers.
+1 Wish I had mod points for that.
Thanks!
It seems like so many people think mature software is bad or something.
It does indeed. Must be some deranged idea about "old"="bad".
To me as a *user*, Systemd feels like a solution in search of a problem. I know the distro/package maintainers like it because it creates less work for them, but I think this is a case where the distro/package maintainers have forgotten at least 1 of their goals: to make it easier on the user.
This often happens when the original creators move out and the 2nd rated people take over: They think they can do better than the original creators and usually they mess it up because they completely overlook fundamental things like this. "Linux is about freedom" very much means it lets you tinker with it and all things that can reasonably be made relatively easy to change, are. sysIV init has that. The systemD people do not even seem to be aware of the idea.
I had systemd run maybe for a combined 10h so far, in a number of new installations. Nothing but problems. Even the one where I originally thought I could leave it in (Orange Pi zero), it caused serious problems and ripping it just out for sysIV init was far easier than to track down and solve its obscure issues.
It is like Windows: Unless you do exactly what the "developers" ("cretins" would be a more appropriate term...) expect, it falls flat on its face and it is maximally unhelpful when you try to find out what is wrong. That is not anything I will tolerate in a Linux installation.
Irony challenged AC is irony challenged.
All nuclear power plant projects are required to have a fund to decommission the plant. No funds to decommission means no license to build the plant.
They do. With a completely fictional amount that is orders of magnitude too low.
I don't agree that replacing sysIV init is a good idea. All the arguments for that boil down to "not invented here".
Why is it that so many tech people cannot let things that work well the fuck alone?
Funny, I am a scientist and an engineer, and I can evolve. But since I am a good scientist and a good engineer, I will not evolve in a bad direction, and hence I will not use systemd. Live is just to short to use crappy unnecessary improvements made by people with small skills and huge egos.
Mindlessly running after a really demented hype is not "evolution". The correct term is "devolution" and it is not a good thing.
Incidentally, if you cannot recognize and build on things that are in a finished state and are more than good enough, then you are most definitely not a scientist or an engineer. Then you are just a hack.
They don't. But since most people (including the ones publishing such benchmarks) really do not understand anything about browsers or what matters and what does not, we will get these demented comparisons for the foreseeable future.
You must be one of these "cyberterrorists" I keep hearing so much about! Nobody else has anything to hide, after all. I think they should lock you up immediately, or better, "accidentally" kill you on arrest.
Browser speed is not a factor today. The only reason for these comparisons is that most people do not have what it takes to do more than compare a (meaningless) number.