I started using OpenBSD at 3.8 and I have been very pleased with the whole experience in the short time I have been using them. Those of you who have not tried it yet try it out, if not for this project we would not have OpenSSH, OpenNTPD, and many more, if you support no other project then support this one.
You need to keep in mind that electricity rates are not flat across the board, for example I live in Washington State where we rely heavily on Hydro-electric power. I also have 6 machines (4 of which are 1.0Ghz, 512MB RAM, 1 of which is a dual 1.7GHz, 2GB RAM, and 1 of which is a 2.0GHz, 512MB RAM) and one laptop that run ALL of the time (the laptop is turned off when I bring it into the office but that is few and far between. The point is with all of this running I still pay between $90-$100 per month for power. Based on your assumption of $15-$20 per month per machine 6 x 15 = $90 6 x 20 = $120, so in order to make your assumptions correct that must mean that I do not heat my apartment (3br 2ba), do laundry, dishes, watch tv, turn on lights, or anything else for that matter.
Now just to clarify a few thing within my post, I have electric heat, the machines I mentioned are always on. I also have a couple that I keep turned off because I have no need to turn them on. If and when I have a need to turn them on and leave them on I will. I know some of you will consider this wasteful, however consider that everyones priorities are different and EVERYONE is wasteful, they are just wasteful in different ways (some people don't combine trips, some people throw away batteries, some people use styrofoam). The indignation that has been shown in this thread (not by the parent post) is simply holier than thou B.S. meant to fulfill a need to quelch their own guilt.
If you haven't been able to tell I have little patience for hippies. I live in Seattle where the hippies are far from endangered.
Oh by the way... Drill ANWAR... And if a hippie climbs a tree in protest of something it is our duty to help him/her down (read: cut down the tree, even if that was not our intention).
I understand that climate change has nothing to do with weather prediction. What makes you think that we (as the human race) can have any effect on the planet earth? Clearly we could do something that would wipe out humans however once we were gone the earth would correct itself and start over. Besides, next time before you tell someone to "Get a clue" how about you put some facts in your post instead of citing a comment that you had made in another post.
In a classroom environment you need to have clearly outlined objectives for the students to learn so that you can determine if your hardware/software will meet those needs. I would develop these objectives and determine where in these objectives these machines will fit in (perhaps hardware or even electro-static discharge training). Then the next thing to do is find some adaquate hardware, perhaps you could solicit donations from some of the larger companies in your area, larger companies are generally on some sort of hardware replacement schedule. So you may be able to get some fairly new hardware. Then once you have all of the hardware you need involve the kids from day one (even if it is on an after school basis).
No choice isn't exactly true, you can choose Home or Professional.
Seriously though, I agree with parent, Gentoo is Gentoo, take it or leave it. The same can be said for Cars, if you really like the way Honda makes cars, then buy a Honda, don't bitch and moan about Ford thinking that anyone actually cares...
I am so tired of hearing about Global Warming. I mean seriously, weather-prediction (meteorology) is an in-exact sceince, it is basically best guess. This is why the Tsunami was able to do the damage it did. There is no way to predict something that is completely random. And bottom line no matter what you meteorology majors think you know it is still random to the Human race, if it wasn't then Natural Disasters would not make the news because we would prevent them.
Besides just cause it got hot this summer does not mean that it is because of anything we did. The earth will go through cycles (hot/cold). Worst case scenario is our emissions will kill every person on this planet (directly) but to think that we could bring about the end of the world is just vain.
This solution is not needed first of all in order to support 30,000 cds you would have to have 300 units broke up into towers of 5 that is 60 towers. Where would that go? Besides at a price (newegg) of $115 each that is $34,500.00. That is insane. The only way you could justify spending that much money on this is if it was not going to be a nightmare to install (i.e. single box). Besides the fact that you would still have to buy powered usb hubs to power all of these bus powered devices. This may be a great solution up to one tower, however any more than that and you are wasting your time.
The problem with simply paying your employees more is quite simple. This just drives up the cost of the product for the consumer, this in turn will drive up the value to the competitor, this will only ensure that the competitor pays more for the information.
There are somethings that it is not cost effective to protect against, i.e. terrorist checkpoints at all grocery stores.
IT professionals are payed much higher, in relation to their education/experience level, than most other fields. If you think that you are worth more than you are being payed in your position, then document it and make a case to your manager.
You can't fix a problem simply by throwing money at it.
No robot of mine will ever limit my intake... However he very well could replace my fat tire, black butte porter, etc with a Natty Ice if I am to hammered to know the difference.
As long as he keeps bringing them I am OK.
The system you speak of is the "canine-protection system" I will also have patents pending for this.
Of course I will also patent a system that can measure the level of intoxication in order to the exact level of quality necessary to maintain a pleasant brewed beverage experience, while also minimizing the cost associated with said experience.
Well since you are in a position to be doing the scrutinizing wouldn't it be refreshing if you had people come to you without all the BS that you recommended the OP take part in, and just give you an honest assessment of what it takes to get the job done?
Oh and congratulations on being in the "IT Industry" for nearly/almost/not quite 20 years.
You basically need to call around the larger companies in your area and inquire with the Supply Department (or equiv.). I live in the Seattle, WA area and go to the Boeing Surplus Store religously.
The post is actually referring to saving his own money not a companies. Besides the whole ask for as much as possible just trains management to always say NO the first few times. If you actually give them a reason why and how it will better the company in language that they can understand you will find that they will see that you think like them and they will no longer scrutinize your purchases (as much).
The problem with IT is everyone is so busy trying to show each other how smart they are that they end up looking like lost little idiots.
As far as "spitting" the data back. I am not so sure I want my "phone/webserver" spitting my contacts all over the internet. Besides isn't that what Paris Hilton was trying to prevent with all the lawsuits after her cell phone was hacked?
Alot of posters have mentioned that this money could better be utilized by giving them text books. Which of course earns the response by the other side of why spend $50 on one text book when you can spend $100 on one laptop that can hold 40+ textbooks.
Here is where I weigh in on this:
Publishers of textbooks do so for the money. It is simple, they copyright their material and sell it. They will not be able to simply get this $100 laptop and keep all the textbooks they need on it, the 'e-books' will have to be purchased/licensed as well. Now if the laptops were connected to the internet then the could simply utilize it as a textbook, however do people actually think that the third world has a cable/dsl connection sitting idle just waiting for a laptop? Telcos will not provide internet into a new market if they cannot make money off of it. If the residents do not have money they will not waste money building the infrastructure. Think of it like this, if everyone had an electric car instead of gas, would you open a gas station? I wouldn't.
-matt
Your statement contradicts itself. You say that natural selection should take precedence over law. Then in the same breath you talk of execution.
NEWS FLASH:
Execution is ARTIFICIAL SELECTION, and by using artificial selection you are giving law a precedence over natural selection. True natural selection requires no intervention by society, which would mean that there would be no police to intervene in any situation. If you could not defend/protect yourself you would be selected.
The burst options are there primarily more military applications. When you take a young inexperienced kid give him a rifle and send him out to get shot at the second someone pops off a round in his direction he will pull the trigger first and aim later, resulting in 0 zero dead bad guys and 1 empty clip. Now granted more and better training would fix this somewhat. But I think that it is safe to assume that the first time in that situation the first time you pull the trigger is going to be wasted. If you still have ammo left then you live. If not you die.
case-in-point: M16A1 safe-single-full vs. M16A2 safe-single-3burst, the problems with the A1 were noticed in Vietnam and corrected with the A2.
My point is that if you ever NEEDED to use it to save your life you probably wouldn't want nerves to empty your clip regardless of how easy it is to keep it on target.
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I started using OpenBSD at 3.8 and I have been very pleased with the whole experience in the short time I have been using them. Those of you who have not tried it yet try it out, if not for this project we would not have OpenSSH, OpenNTPD, and many more, if you support no other project then support this one.
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You need to keep in mind that electricity rates are not flat across the board, for example I live in Washington State where we rely heavily on Hydro-electric power. I also have 6 machines (4 of which are 1.0Ghz, 512MB RAM, 1 of which is a dual 1.7GHz, 2GB RAM, and 1 of which is a 2.0GHz, 512MB RAM) and one laptop that run ALL of the time (the laptop is turned off when I bring it into the office but that is few and far between. The point is with all of this running I still pay between $90-$100 per month for power. Based on your assumption of $15-$20 per month per machine 6 x 15 = $90 6 x 20 = $120, so in order to make your assumptions correct that must mean that I do not heat my apartment (3br 2ba), do laundry, dishes, watch tv, turn on lights, or anything else for that matter.
Now just to clarify a few thing within my post, I have electric heat, the machines I mentioned are always on. I also have a couple that I keep turned off because I have no need to turn them on. If and when I have a need to turn them on and leave them on I will. I know some of you will consider this wasteful, however consider that everyones priorities are different and EVERYONE is wasteful, they are just wasteful in different ways (some people don't combine trips, some people throw away batteries, some people use styrofoam). The indignation that has been shown in this thread (not by the parent post) is simply holier than thou B.S. meant to fulfill a need to quelch their own guilt.
If you haven't been able to tell I have little patience for hippies. I live in Seattle where the hippies are far from endangered.
Oh by the way... Drill ANWAR... And if a hippie climbs a tree in protest of something it is our duty to help him/her down (read: cut down the tree, even if that was not our intention).
I understand that climate change has nothing to do with weather prediction. What makes you think that we (as the human race) can have any effect on the planet earth? Clearly we could do something that would wipe out humans however once we were gone the earth would correct itself and start over. Besides, next time before you tell someone to "Get a clue" how about you put some facts in your post instead of citing a comment that you had made in another post.
In a classroom environment you need to have clearly outlined objectives for the students to learn so that you can determine if your hardware/software will meet those needs. I would develop these objectives and determine where in these objectives these machines will fit in (perhaps hardware or even electro-static discharge training). Then the next thing to do is find some adaquate hardware, perhaps you could solicit donations from some of the larger companies in your area, larger companies are generally on some sort of hardware replacement schedule. So you may be able to get some fairly new hardware. Then once you have all of the hardware you need involve the kids from day one (even if it is on an after school basis).
No choice isn't exactly true, you can choose Home or Professional.
Seriously though, I agree with parent, Gentoo is Gentoo, take it or leave it. The same can be said for Cars, if you really like the way Honda makes cars, then buy a Honda, don't bitch and moan about Ford thinking that anyone actually cares...
I am so tired of hearing about Global Warming. I mean seriously, weather-prediction (meteorology) is an in-exact sceince, it is basically best guess. This is why the Tsunami was able to do the damage it did. There is no way to predict something that is completely random. And bottom line no matter what you meteorology majors think you know it is still random to the Human race, if it wasn't then Natural Disasters would not make the news because we would prevent them.
Besides just cause it got hot this summer does not mean that it is because of anything we did. The earth will go through cycles (hot/cold). Worst case scenario is our emissions will kill every person on this planet (directly) but to think that we could bring about the end of the world is just vain.
This solution is not needed first of all in order to support 30,000 cds you would have to have 300 units broke up into towers of 5 that is 60 towers. Where would that go? Besides at a price (newegg) of $115 each that is $34,500.00. That is insane. The only way you could justify spending that much money on this is if it was not going to be a nightmare to install (i.e. single box). Besides the fact that you would still have to buy powered usb hubs to power all of these bus powered devices. This may be a great solution up to one tower, however any more than that and you are wasting your time.
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The problem with simply paying your employees more is quite simple. This just drives up the cost of the product for the consumer, this in turn will drive up the value to the competitor, this will only ensure that the competitor pays more for the information.
There are somethings that it is not cost effective to protect against, i.e. terrorist checkpoints at all grocery stores.
IT professionals are payed much higher, in relation to their education/experience level, than most other fields. If you think that you are worth more than you are being payed in your position, then document it and make a case to your manager.
You can't fix a problem simply by throwing money at it.
No robot of mine will ever limit my intake... However he very well could replace my fat tire, black butte porter, etc with a Natty Ice if I am to hammered to know the difference.
As long as he keeps bringing them I am OK.
The system you speak of is the "canine-protection system" I will also have patents pending for this.
Of course I will also patent a system that can measure the level of intoxication in order to the exact level of quality necessary to maintain a pleasant brewed beverage experience, while also minimizing the cost associated with said experience.
I am going to run out and patent the "Beer Quality Recognition System" that way my robot can tell the good beer from the bad.
I am glad I saw this article. I don't feel so bad being clinically stupid at the age of "old-enough-to-no-longer-be-clinically-stupid."
Well since you are in a position to be doing the scrutinizing wouldn't it be refreshing if you had people come to you without all the BS that you recommended the OP take part in, and just give you an honest assessment of what it takes to get the job done?
Oh and congratulations on being in the "IT Industry" for nearly/almost/not quite 20 years.
You basically need to call around the larger companies in your area and inquire with the Supply Department (or equiv.). I live in the Seattle, WA area and go to the Boeing Surplus Store religously.
The Governement also auctions off stuff at http://gsaauctions.gov/gsaauctions/gsaauctions/. The GSA isn't to good for IT type stuff though.
Defense Department gets rid of stuff at DRMO http://drms.dla.mil/.
The post is actually referring to saving his own money not a companies. Besides the whole ask for as much as possible just trains management to always say NO the first few times. If you actually give them a reason why and how it will better the company in language that they can understand you will find that they will see that you think like them and they will no longer scrutinize your purchases (as much).
The problem with IT is everyone is so busy trying to show each other how smart they are that they end up looking like lost little idiots.
Alot of large companies have surplus sales of oldish (2-3 years) equipment. This is how I have acquired the lab that I have.
As far as "spitting" the data back. I am not so sure I want my "phone/webserver" spitting my contacts all over the internet. Besides isn't that what Paris Hilton was trying to prevent with all the lawsuits after her cell phone was hacked?
Alot of posters have mentioned that this money could better be utilized by giving them text books. Which of course earns the response by the other side of why spend $50 on one text book when you can spend $100 on one laptop that can hold 40+ textbooks. Here is where I weigh in on this: Publishers of textbooks do so for the money. It is simple, they copyright their material and sell it. They will not be able to simply get this $100 laptop and keep all the textbooks they need on it, the 'e-books' will have to be purchased/licensed as well. Now if the laptops were connected to the internet then the could simply utilize it as a textbook, however do people actually think that the third world has a cable/dsl connection sitting idle just waiting for a laptop? Telcos will not provide internet into a new market if they cannot make money off of it. If the residents do not have money they will not waste money building the infrastructure. Think of it like this, if everyone had an electric car instead of gas, would you open a gas station? I wouldn't. -matt
I have ex-girlfriends who think that longer is better. Something tells me they were not talking about wikipedia articles.
Your statement contradicts itself. You say that natural selection should take precedence over law. Then in the same breath you talk of execution. NEWS FLASH: Execution is ARTIFICIAL SELECTION, and by using artificial selection you are giving law a precedence over natural selection. True natural selection requires no intervention by society, which would mean that there would be no police to intervene in any situation. If you could not defend/protect yourself you would be selected.
The burst options are there primarily more military applications. When you take a young inexperienced kid give him a rifle and send him out to get shot at the second someone pops off a round in his direction he will pull the trigger first and aim later, resulting in 0 zero dead bad guys and 1 empty clip. Now granted more and better training would fix this somewhat. But I think that it is safe to assume that the first time in that situation the first time you pull the trigger is going to be wasted. If you still have ammo left then you live. If not you die.
case-in-point: M16A1 safe-single-full vs. M16A2 safe-single-3burst, the problems with the A1 were noticed in Vietnam and corrected with the A2.
My point is that if you ever NEEDED to use it to save your life you probably wouldn't want nerves to empty your clip regardless of how easy it is to keep it on target.