While I'm in favor of open source for the peer review, the tone of this rant really makes me want to reconsider that... please note, this isn't a troll - this is just my honest gut reactions to the guy.
If I start a project, and I want to do it myself, why the hell can't I? It's MY project. Sure, I can let you use it, but who says I have to let you contribute?
From the way this guy talks, it's as if he demands every single program be open to whoever wants to toss in code to do so (and yes, I saw the mention of the read-only CVS tree). Why should I? Opinions and input are one thing, but that should be the developers choice if they're used, or just routed to the big bit bucket.
It's a great big Internet - there should be room for all types of software development, ranging from fully open collaborative, to ultraprivate encrypted end to end on standalone networks.
To me, open source means that eventually, it'll be open. Not that you get to watch and snigger over every small little glitch the guy makes, sniping at him along the way until he loses interest. If his choice is periodic releases, then you should be polite enough to accept that.
Because there's a huge contingent of clueless idjits reading here that think that the stuff in italics is written by the Slashdot team, rather than being whatever the submitter wrote, accurate or not.
If you're going to get blamed for it (and you can see that people were blaming them for it), then you might as well edit it... especially if you're an editor, rather than a moderator. I am of two minds on it, I'd like the CT and the rest to correct blatant errors, but the setup isn't exactly reporter -> editor.
Manual = more activity, which means you're forced to be MORE ALERT.
Of course, the people you're talking about can't even be bothered to signal, fasten seat belts, or use their brains... so yeah, let 'em doze off and drive into a pole on the side of the highway.
I would submit that most people who can drop seven figures in a bank aren't the intended market for these apps... nor among the common users of computers, nor even the average reader of Slashdot.
People who have 7 figures have -accountants-, and minions to do their computer stuff. This is for Joe Stiff, who makes under $100000 a year. For them, it's very useful, not dead at all.
Yes, I did take the time to read it through (well, skim it through, I'm a fast reader but not that fast). The question behind all his points, though, is "what do we want out of this?" This isn't a new question by any means, either. I've seen it before enough times that I'm sure this will be moderated as "redundant". If we want Grandma to have linux as her desktop, it's got to be not just bulletproof, but devoid of surprises. I get a rude shock still every couple days, when something doesn't quite react like I expected, and I've been futzing around with UNIXlike O/S'es since 1990. Hell, my father's a comptroller at a major Canadian oil company, and he gets confused by Win98, which, like it or lump it, is generally easier on the novice user than Linux. And re: project management - Open Source manages itself while the participants are really interested and excited. So many projects fall apart when the main coder gets bored, or distracted... and that's where you need the management, the rewards, and the requirements. And flamers... get a clue already. Screaming bloody murder at those who disagree with you never works, makes you and the rest of us look bad, and smacks of facism or similar intolerant philosphies. If somebody really wants Windoze, LET THEM HAVE IT. Just be smug at them every time they complain about crashes.:)
This strike anyone as fairly similar to what the Sandbenders do in the Gibson novels? Take the guts otu of the cheap, knockoff shell, and put them into a handcrafted work of art... gotta like it.:)
Well, I guess this'll mean I have less work to do when somebody probes my servers now.
I used to make sure the contacts at the subnet where the probes came from knew, in case they'd been busted open and script kiddies were using them as a point to attack from.
But now I don't know where to send, so less work for me, and blissful ignorance for them. Not that anyone ever replied, anyways.
While I agree that binary distros of qmail would make things a lot easier, it's really not that hard (on Debian, at least).
I view it along the lines of those 49% assembled home airplane kits, or whatever, except even easier. I just type "build-qmail" (or whatever it is, it's been a while) and off it goes, come back in a bit and dpkg the new.deb in. Null brain strain.
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Why aren't you using the Slashdot Sourceforge bugs page, rather than posting here where it's likely to never be seen?
While I'm in favor of open source for the peer review, the tone of this rant really makes me want to reconsider that... please note, this isn't a troll - this is just my honest gut reactions to the guy.
If I start a project, and I want to do it myself, why the hell can't I? It's MY project. Sure, I can let you use it, but who says I have to let you contribute?
From the way this guy talks, it's as if he demands every single program be open to whoever wants to toss in code to do so (and yes, I saw the mention of the read-only CVS tree). Why should I? Opinions and input are one thing, but that should be the developers choice if they're used, or just routed to the big bit bucket.
It's a great big Internet - there should be room for all types of software development, ranging from fully open collaborative, to ultraprivate encrypted end to end on standalone networks.
To me, open source means that eventually, it'll be open. Not that you get to watch and snigger over every small little glitch the guy makes, sniping at him along the way until he loses interest. If his choice is periodic releases, then you should be polite enough to accept that.
Even though this promises to turn into a unsolicited TV-mail spamfest, I sure like the sound of that printer.
Entirely front loading, black, and VCR-shaped... I wonder if they could be hacked to bolt into a 19" rackmount?
Why?
Because there's a huge contingent of clueless idjits reading here that think that the stuff in italics is written by the Slashdot team, rather than being whatever the submitter wrote, accurate or not.
If you're going to get blamed for it (and you can see that people were blaming them for it), then you might as well edit it... especially if you're an editor, rather than a moderator. I am of two minds on it, I'd like the CT and the rest to correct blatant errors, but the setup isn't exactly reporter -> editor.
Manual = more activity, which means you're forced to be MORE ALERT.
Of course, the people you're talking about can't even be bothered to signal, fasten seat belts, or use their brains... so yeah, let 'em doze off and drive into a pole on the side of the highway.
:P
Laptop? I guess... I'd rather have an optionally removable wallplate with a touchscreen. Waterproof, of course. Think electrical Etchasketch. :)
I would submit that most people who can drop seven figures in a bank aren't the intended market for these apps... nor among the common users of computers, nor even the average reader of Slashdot.
People who have 7 figures have -accountants-, and minions to do their computer stuff. This is for Joe Stiff, who makes under $100000 a year. For them, it's very useful, not dead at all.
Probably because if you bank at more than one institution (and IMO, smart 'shoppers' do), then you need something like this to bring it all together.
Yes, I did take the time to read it through (well, skim it through, I'm a fast reader but not that fast). The question behind all his points, though, is "what do we want out of this?" This isn't a new question by any means, either. I've seen it before enough times that I'm sure this will be moderated as "redundant". If we want Grandma to have linux as her desktop, it's got to be not just bulletproof, but devoid of surprises. I get a rude shock still every couple days, when something doesn't quite react like I expected, and I've been futzing around with UNIXlike O/S'es since 1990. Hell, my father's a comptroller at a major Canadian oil company, and he gets confused by Win98, which, like it or lump it, is generally easier on the novice user than Linux. And re: project management - Open Source manages itself while the participants are really interested and excited. So many projects fall apart when the main coder gets bored, or distracted... and that's where you need the management, the rewards, and the requirements. And flamers... get a clue already. Screaming bloody murder at those who disagree with you never works, makes you and the rest of us look bad, and smacks of facism or similar intolerant philosphies. If somebody really wants Windoze, LET THEM HAVE IT. Just be smug at them every time they complain about crashes. :)
This strike anyone as fairly similar to what the Sandbenders do in the Gibson novels? Take the guts otu of the cheap, knockoff shell, and put them into a handcrafted work of art... gotta like it. :)
Well, I guess this'll mean I have less work to do when somebody probes my servers now.
I used to make sure the contacts at the subnet where the probes came from knew, in case they'd been busted open and script kiddies were using them as a point to attack from.
But now I don't know where to send, so less work for me, and blissful ignorance for them. Not that anyone ever replied, anyways.
I view it along the lines of those 49% assembled home airplane kits, or whatever, except even easier. I just type "build-qmail" (or whatever it is, it's been a while) and off it goes, come back in a bit and dpkg the new .deb in. Null brain strain.