Slashdot Mirror
Welcome To The New Slashdot Server
After much blood, sweat and tears, the new server appears to be up.
It'll probably be a few hours yet while the DNS trickles over. We'll have a more extensive report describing the new hardware in the next couple of days... but first, we gotta iron out any kinks that pop up.
Congrats and thanks, /. crew. You have made my cable modem very, very happy!
John
There's something not quite right about viewing Slashdot on a fast server ... sort of like listening to old Beatles LPs on mp3, or seeing the Blair Witch Project in THX.
Power corrupts. PowerPoint corrupts absolutely.
I was curious as to how well this new server would stand up to the traffic .. it appears to be about as fast as beta was, which is a SUBSTANTIAL improvement in refresh time. Yes, believe me, I noticed.
.. and come back minutes later to find it still loading ..
Now I don't have to minimize Netscape and go back to work whenever I click onto a Slashdot page
73 de N5VB (ex-KD5BIV) AR SK
Here is some of what you aski me
http://slashdot.org/users.pl?op=preview&bid=upt
--- Linux... a college project gone horribly right
Almost as fast as when I first started reading way back when. Great Job.
I want a gmail account. Can someone help me
I'd like to say thanks and great job on another successful upgrade. I can feel the difference already. Morning surfing is quite improved. Keep up the good work, and don't let the trolls get you down, you guys are awesome. On a separate note, if I had that much hardware, I'd be the happiest son of a bitch in the world :-)
..."KICK ASS!"
:-B
It looks just the way I left it, only FASTER!
Seriously, great job. If I didn't know you guys switched, I wouldn't be able to tell the difference.
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Star Trek vs Star Wars.
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Star Trek vs Star Wars. Take a look. You may like it.
Search the archive for stories in the "Slashdot.org" category... You'll find quite a bit of slashdot ancient history. :)
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All Glory To The Hypnotoad!
I have a python script that pulls the titles and urls and when the new server came online my old script quit working . Well it didn't take much to fix it but if you have scripts out there you may want to check them.
There was a bit of downtime, at least a second. /. was down like two hours ago...
Tee hee, but anyway, a couple minutes of downtime is good... :-)
I could not justify my existence if I were a turkey farmer. Would I terminate myself? Undoubtably, yes.
Just out of curiousity. What hardware was the old slashdot running under?
And, what were the biggest reasons for upgrading?
-Needed Faster CPU?
-Needed more memory?
-Needed a bigger network pipe?
-Needed clustering?
-___ ?
I thought something was wrong when it was responding
in less than 30 seconds this morning.
Now most clicks are in a second or two.
You guys are probably sick of hearing about the kinks, but in case you value our bug reports..
The brunching shuttlecock slashbox is showing really outdated material
But anyway, things are moving fast!!! I am impressed! Great job guys, here's a toast to another 3000000000 billion served!
No! This server is MINE! Get off.
how many people out there realize the amount of work that goes into not being able to notice any differences?
:)
Believe me I noticed the difference.... And it is *very* much appreciated.
Bingo. The main page loaded on my machine much faster. Almost nil transfer time. Much nicer than the old delay (which occationally took so long my browser eventually gave up and reported the server as down).
Good job guys. I hope the post transfer fixes go smoothly.
the lyf so short, the craft so long to lerne. - Chaucer
Yes, it even scrolls faster now.
:-) = I am happy
:^) = I am happy with my big nose
C:\> = I am happy with my OS
On my homepage (check it out!) i've made
a xml parser in php3 that parses the slashdot.xml into a more readable form. The thing is - and I don't know it's because of the new server, but yesterday, you (slashdot.org) stopped to put absolute url's into the or whatever the right xml-tag is. I know can just change my php3 parser - but I wanted to check if it is going to stay that way forever? pls comment.
Regards -larsw-
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Buskerud College
Faculty of Engineering
Department of Computer Science
--larsw
Oi! My fvourite useless poll doesn't load... get up lay bum's! 8]
Posted by BSD-Pat:
We had an article on the beta a while back but:
arrowpoint CS series load balancer...
100 mbit pipe
cisco 6509/2 MSFC's
4 pIII650 web servers
2 pIII650 image servers
1 Dual pIII650 slashd
1 Quad xeon 550 DB server
the OS's are Linux 2.2.14 (Debian and RedHat)
the servers I think are apache 1.3.12+mod_perl
Umm, you might be checking the _old_ slashdot on Netcraft. I got these results.
64.28.67.48 is running Apache/1.3.12 (Unix) mod_perl/1.22 on Linux
Now I can block Jon Katz articles even faster!
Power corrupts. PowerPoint corrupts absolutely.
Iay ownay histencray ouyay 'lashdotsay'!
;)
:)
Uoyay aymay ownay isskay hetay erversay!
..... Enjoy your sleep dudes!
"How much truth can advertising buy?" - iNsuRge - AK47
"How much truth can advertising buy?" - iNsuRge - AK47
Or are you guys lucky enough to have a a a a *looks around* Vending Machine!!
Remember! Don't turn the old box into scrap just yet! Been there, done that, wasn't pretty.
Congrats on a sucessful implementation! Place a little check in the box beside "Successful" on the change management form!
"History doesn't repeat itself, but it does rhyme." Mark Twain
Nice and fast, you guys are getting way too popular.
Hey, /. loads faster than i have ever seen!!!
Great job, folks!
I got used to doing other things while waiting for pages to load- no more. Hee Haw!
Right on,
Sleen
I think I've noticed something new here...
/. are now "rejected" instead of "declined". That's a great boost to my self esteem :-p
The stories I submitted to
--You will rephrase your request for me to go to hell. Goto statements are not acceptable programming constructs
[root@whatever /root]# traceroute slashdot.org
traceroute to slashdot.org (64.28.67.48), 30 hops max, 38 byte packets
1 gogo-01.iinet.net.au (203.59.24.161) 115.602 ms 119.067 ms 129.663 ms
2 qv2.west.net.au (203.59.24.243) 109.470 ms 119.229 ms 109.697 ms
3 atm2-0-20.mb1.optus.net.au (202.139.0.177) 329.339 ms 439.238 ms 329.521 ms
4 atm5-0-0-28.ia3.optus.net.au (192.65.89.201) 169.322 ms 169.236 ms 169.66 2 ms
5 GigaEth1-0-0.rr1.optus.net.au (202.139.1.193) 189.402 ms 179.232 ms 159.5 72 ms
6 hssi11-0-0.sf1.optus.net.au (192.65.89.234) 579.335 ms hssi4-0-0.sf1.optus. net.au (192.65.89.230) 639.251 ms 649.220 ms
7 acr2-serial2-2-0-0.SanFranciscosfd.cw.net (206.24.209.205) 609.317 ms 589. 152 ms 609.658 ms
8 corerouter2.SanFrancisco.cw.net (204.70.9.132) 659.171 ms 669.157 ms 639. 516 ms
9 core6.SanFrancisco.cw.net (204.70.4.89) 579.316 ms 569.202 ms 609.514 ms 10 ibr01-s5-4.sntc02.exodus.net (209.185.9.9) 609.314 ms 609.202 ms 579.453 ms
11 bbr01-g3-0.sntc02.exodus.net (216.33.154.131) 579.295 ms 609.189 ms 609.4 85 ms
12 bbr02-p3-0.sntc04.exodus.net (209.1.169.254) 609.327 ms * 609.703 ms 13 bbr02-p3-0.okbr01.exodus.net (216.32.132.149) 659.289 ms 629.204 ms 659.6 69 ms
14 * * bbr01-p5-0.wlhm01.exodus.net (216.32.132.210) 779.611 ms 15 dcr03-g1-0.wlhm01.exodus.net (64.14.70.49) 608.970 ms 739.209 ms 689.519 ms
16 64.14.80.154 (64.14.80.154) 749.304 ms * 739.683 ms
17 64.28.66.203 (64.28.66.203) 839.268 ms * 799.689 ms
18 * * *
19 * * *
20 *^C
Fast site. Popular site. Good site. Pick one.
Appropriate, I think.
When do we get pictures?
The right setup for this would be something more like two Sun 420s serving pages and a 3500 for the DB/fileserver. And yes, they should be running Linux (with Solaris you'd need twice as many machines to compensate for the built-in Molasses [tm] feature).
may I sleep now?
In terms of performance, you'll find Zeus (http://www.zeus.com) is considerably faster than Apache but is pretty close to a drop-in replacement for it. It costs real money, but the performance gains are almost certainly worth it for a high-traffic site like /.
ben_ the technologist and platform agnostic
I've had this problem for quite some time... haven't you noticed how we're continually reminded about Jon Katz's "recent" Hellmouth articles?
Way to go, now I can reload slashdot even faster during the day. :)
-- dieman - Scott Dier
how many people out there realize the amount of work that goes into not being able to notice any differences? how many more do not give any appreciation to the bump in speed?
....
Welcome to the world of Information Technology my friend. The truth is that most users notice nothing and appreciate less. That is, until it goes wrong. Then the purveyors of the service get villified
BTW, I am in the UK, and it does seem quicker to me. Well done.
Stephen Hawking has written another book. It's about time as well.
Too bad cartoon network foolishes airs it at 10:00 on Sunday when it easily could be a primetime contender.
I am into the copy and paste.
*Joke*
I would like to be the first to claim that Slashdot began to go bad when they went to this new server.
over 20 hops from me. wish exodus could get some better connections.
-l
Help cure AIDS, cancer, and more. Donate your unused computer time to worldcommunitygrid.org. Join Team Slashdot!
what are you doing with the old hardware? i know i'd be interested in taking it off your hands as a tax deductible donation.
strange things are afoot at the Circle K...
wow that is fast... 45 seconds per page???? What kind of 14.4 modem do you have???? brockn@spammeanddiedeskmedia.com
-- http://www.safeproxy.org - Free Anonymous Web Surfing
Congrats to the Slashdot Team.
I do understand the blood sweat and tears that go into upgrading a network server without interfering with the endusers.
Thanks for all you hard work..
S.
Scott
C{E,F,O,T}O
sboss dot net
email: scott@sboss.net
I am 39.0% slashdot pure
Scott
janitor
sdn website family
email: scott at sboss dot net
There is plenty of room to play with the dietary suplements for the hamsters. However, within 18 months it will be necessary to consider upgrading to trained rats. Then again microsoft.com gets suprising performance using large quantities of bugs. There is also a rumor that Big Blue has an interesting multiplying server project under development using rabbits.
134340: I am not a number. I am a free planet!
Great job guys!
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how many more do not give any appreciation to the bump in speed?
I do, notice something and the difference is faster, faster, harder ... oops! Yeah, now I can turn off the "light" bit and see /. in color. Who said this is not the cool age. -d
Hmph, I am really liking the name. The server was what Hanson wanted, and its what Hanson got! Yeay! Space Ghost's lucky guest star next week: Rob Malda. Don't forget to tune in!
Good Job!
/. off of that shared Alpha onto it's own system!
This feels like as much of a speed increase as when you moved
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god i hate windows... stupid school computers... while i was typing, the side of my palm ran into the extended key that makes the right-click menu come up... musta hit an 'r', cause the page reloaded halfway thru the message... *grumbles* /. are just making it up... i don't feel a difference... neither do a lot of people... therefore, there was no upgrade, the staff at /. are trying to dupe us... /. gets hit as much as people say... i don't think any of you exist, actually... well, maybe one or two... no trolls ever go to slashdot... there's just a script that writes troll posts... and another one that moderates the other script's postings down... how else would trolls get first posts? maybe i'm a script... i'm confused...
anyways, i don't think that there really is any new hardware... the people at
which makes me wonder what the real hardware is... 50 beowulfed palms? it'd explain how slow the slashcode gets updated... (coding in graffiti can't be fun...)
maybe i should do that at my site, if anyone ever complains about speed... tell them that i'm working on it, and a month later, take the site down for a day, and say that i've upgraded the hardware... they'll think its faster (maybe i'll take my d.net client down for a day... tho its pretty good at staying out of the way...), so they'll be happy, and my pocketbook'll be happy... well, no, that's not true... my pocketbook is NEVER happy... happier, i guess... i actually don't think that
Think that was flamebait? You've obviously never met me in person...
$email=~tr/.@/
no, t1 /. was so backed up last week, it was taking that long to load an entire page.
my point was,
"This is where god would go if he wanted to get off blow!"
Holy speed batman! This is how slashdot always came up in my dreams, so fast I haven't even realeased the enter key and it's up :)
And stop looking at me funny, you dream about web surfing too.....don't you?
Finkployd
Man, I fell for that. Some sort of mouse over would have kept me from figuring it out too.
you'll note that the IP his link looks up at netcraft is 207.46.130.149, which, although it has no reverse-DNS, is served from an ip for which dns4.cp.msft.net is athoritive.
:-) nice try though. On a hunch, I forward-looked up www.microsoft.com (hey, trolls aren't usually that creative) and it's one of the 4 servers in that DNS round-robin.
that's not slashdot
The Matrix is going down for reboot now! Stopping reality: OK. The system is halted.
First of all, you need to do some research about what Apache does and doesn't cache.
Second, mod_mmap doesn't put anything in the HEAD request, so if they were to take this simple and adequate route to caching, you wouldn't have a clue about it. mod_mmap is totally transparent to you, the user. It's not totally transparent to the sysadmins (one of it's weaknesses, IMHO) but then if you're only serving up 60 images, that shouldn't be a big deal.
Finally though, I really think people make too big a deal about serving images off a separate server. Let's look at the bigger picture: Slashdot serves around a million page views a day. That's averaging out throughout the day at a whopping 11 requests/sec on page views. Now given that we've seen benchmarks of apache serving static content at 2000+ req/sec, I think it's probably not even breaking a sweat serving those images.
What slashdot really needs to do (and I know pudge knows this too) is get away from Apache::Registry. That and do some serious code cleanups, and maybe even try this app on Oracle. That's where you'll see real differences, IMHO.
Anyway, I suppose they say every little helps, so how about it Pudge? Is mod_mmap doing it's thang in there?
Matt. Want XML + Apache + Stylesheets? Get AxKit.
if you're going to do brak, do it right, bitch:
One time I hired a monkey to take notes for me in class. I would just sit there with my mind a complete blank while the monkey scribbled on little pieces of paper. At the end of the week the teacher said, "Class, I want you to write a paper using your notes." So I wrote a paper that said "Hello, my name is Bingo. I like to climb on things. Can I have a banana? Eek eek." I got an F. When I told my Mom about it she said "I told you never trust a monkey!" The end.
thats the way its done, jabroni. brak smells what you're cooking!!!
I read somewhere a trick to reduce the load on your Apache:
Set the caducity (word? I mean the time after it is no longer valid) to a date in the future (say after 1 month) for constant images.
Thus, people will cache (locally o proxily) the images and they won't request them from your browser, and images are a lot of bytes per file.
Of course, this is for constant images (formatting pixels, topics,...) not for banner ads, counters and doubleclick bigbrothers.
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Men with no respect for life must never be allowed to control the ultimate instruments of death.
GW Bu
Way to go Rob! (Even though at times I don't fully agree on your opinions at times - but hey, you are an enlightened child, as we worship the same deity - I look forward to slashdotting everyday)
P.S.,
Rob if you ever read this, on your personal homepage, in the windowmaker section, it hasn't been updated in about 2 years (The "Your'e Early" splash is there - I gave up waiting for an update on that one about a year ago, heh, I always figured you'd make an uber cool windowmaker section).
Fuck Ajit Pai
i prefer:
Fast
Good
Cheap.
Pick Two
I know of only one way to respond to this: w00t!
The good news is that response is definitely faster. The bad news (perhaps) is that this may be due to my being online at 5:50 EDT, when all the good little geeks who don't have to go to the airport this morning are still in bed. I'll try it later this morning, after the country wakes up.
/.-type site it's probably the best option for you. Good job.
However, loading a large text page (like this one) is noticeably faster, as are the image loads. And the preview is really fast. I remember when you were talking about this at Geek Pride last month - Exodus is a good shop and for a
- -Josh Turiel
-- Josh Turiel
"2. Do not eat iPod Shuffle."
Hey, great speed, guys! I thought it was my ISP that was causing the lag before, but there's definitely an improvement in bandwidth after the server change.
/. settings and displays the old story in default /. layout.
Only one little thing that I've noticed so far. If I search for an old story in the archives, find what I'm looking for and click on it, your server doesn't seem to care about my
Ok, so your old server did exactly the same, but I thought since you're already digging in there...
Again, congrats on a new server. You're doing a brilliant job.
[NRAdude@gtmi686dpp NRAdude]$ ping slashdot.org
PING slashdot.org (64.28.67.48): 56 data bytes
64 bytes from 64.28.67.48: icmp_seq=0 ttl=110 time=249.6 ms
64 bytes from 64.28.67.48: icmp_seq=1 ttl=110 time=229.9 ms
64 bytes from 64.28.67.48: icmp_seq=2 ttl=110 time=229.9 ms
64 bytes from 64.28.67.48: icmp_seq=3 ttl=110 time=219.9 ms
64 bytes from 64.28.67.48: icmp_seq=4 ttl=110 time=219.9 ms
64 bytes from 64.28.67.48: icmp_seq=5 ttl=110 time=210.0 ms
64 bytes from 64.28.67.48: icmp_seq=6 ttl=110 time=229.9 ms
--- slashdot.org ping statistics ---
7 packets transmitted, 7 packets received, 0% packet loss
round-trip min/avg/max = 210.0/227.0/249.6 ms
[NRAdude@gtmi686dpp NRAdude]$ queso slashdot.org
dude! wow! fast and efficient! Nosebleed! They're using Linux kernel 2.2.x
[NRAdude@gtmi686dpp NRAdude]$ logout
(today, at night, about 3:00am, can't get on slashdot.org, GRRRRRRR)
[NRAdude@gtmi686dpp NRAdude]$ ping slashdot.org
PING slashdot.org (64.28.67.48): 56 data bytes
64 bytes from 64.28.67.48: icmp_seq=6 ttl=110 time=666,666.666ms
--- slashdot.org ping statistics ---
666 packets transmitted, 1.666 packets received, 666% packet loss
round-trip min/avg/max = 6666.66/6666.66/6666.66 ms
[NRAdude@gtmi686dpp NRAdude]$ queso slashdot.org
eeeek! They're using Windows 2000 pseudo smp mode. leave in the name of Jesus! SIG15. Core dumped.
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...
[NRAdude@gtmi686dpp NRAdude]$ smbmount \\slashdot.org\public -U PopeJohnPaul5 -I 64.28.67.48 -N -n TheExorcist -W slashdot.org -c mount /mnt/theposessed/public /home/NRAdude/biblestudy/virtualobjectoriented/cru cifix.c /mnt/theposessed/public
[NRAdude@gtmi686dpp NRAdude]$ mv
[NRAdude@gtmi686dpp NRAdude]$ killall samba;shutdown now;pray to god
without prejudice
Right, I am aware of mod_mmap_static, but I think that it's highly overrated at this point. Most significantly, it's at version 0.04 and placed in the "experimental" modules section for a reason: it's not well tested. /. just likes showing off. . . ;)
I think one of the reasons it's not well tested is that this is a pretty incovenient module to use. It makes you list every file to be mmapped, one-by-one, in the Apache config file. That's fine if you need it for, say, the slashbox icons, but it's going to be annoying to edit the server config files every time you want to add or remove a new banner ad.
I also just figured that they wouldn't be using 1 GB of RAM and 10k RPM SCSI drives if they had no performance concerns. Or maybe
--JRZ
Everyone slashdot Slashdot.org ;) Just kidding! Don't! NOOOOOOOOOOO!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!
Ant(Dude) @ Quality Foraged Links (AQFL.net) & The Ant Farm (antfarm.ma.cx / antfarm.home.dhs.org).
So where's this new puppy located?
http://tinyurl.com/4ny52
starting at cr1-hfc6.union1.nj.home.net: ...
15 hops to get there can't help much either.
I'm getting around 47 ms - but didn't hit that router - the Net must have adapted
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it's the week isn't it?
Check out the two week old slashboxen! Wow, this is kinda cool!
Help us build a better map!
Congrats, everyone -- the improvement is immediately noticeable and greatly appreciated!
Imagine the frustration (and I'm sure you can) of sitting on a T1 connection and having to stick /. in the background while it loads ... eventually.
I suppose we can safely assume it's not running IIS on an NT4 box ... :)
ikaros, who has really got to get off his bum and get his own server set up
You're only as young as the last time you changed your mind -- Timothy Leary
is there old slashcode in place? A while back, the term "declined" replaced the arguably harsher "rejected", when a story submission was turned down.
It appears it now says "rejected" once again.
Well yeah but they did put a big fat notice on the site saying "We're moving sites, any new comments posted will be lost"
Or isn't that obvious enough?
Why aren't you using the Slashdot Sourceforge bugs page, rather than posting here where it's likely to never be seen?
how many people out there realize the amount of work that goes into not being able to notice any differences?
I noticed a difference - your slashdot.rdf file is broken.
Errors are:
I noticed this before I looked at Slashdot today, as it buggered up my Linux/OSS page.
Or will there be another upgrade necessary to implement those changes when ready? We're looking at replication at work right now and it's much more work than just the database itself, so I would hope this upgrade has such future developments in mind. Just curious..
The new IP is 64.28.76.48 From where I am (Melbourne, Australia) this has a ping of approx. 800ms (ATM). This is in comparison to the old IP, which took around 1000ms, a saving of 20%! Good work, guys!-
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A waste of time and money? What are you imagining is so different about these other servers? It's just some context switching overhead. No matter what you do the images are cached in memory if you have enough.
The Exodus data center in Waltham is 15 miles away... and, according to traceroute, the new Slashdot servers are 15 hops away.
Coincidence?
Hmmmmm...
A stripped-down Apache serving images with keep-alive can easily fill huge amounts of bandwidth. You might be able to reduce the number of servers by a machine or two if you used a server like thttpd, but that hardly compensates for the added effort of dealing with different kinds of config files, log files, etc. Apache's amazing configurability is more valuable than you might think when running a large site.
Anyone else notice that the http://slashdot.org/slashdot.xml file it different? The hostname is missing on the URL entries.
The above is not worth reading.
When I originally came to the page, i didnt see ANY slashboxes whatsoever. I went into my preferences and then reloaded the page and it seemed to be fine, but before i went to the preferences i reloaded the page a few times and nothing changed. Was this supposed to happen?
--Sean
I'm seeing 45k/sec page load rates on large pages, not bad. My peak DSL download rate is about 68k/sec. What's even nicer is the turn around time is way down. I'm noticing a significant decrease in the time from page request to it's starting to download. I need to check this durring peak time, but it feels much faster than even last night at this time.
- security focus is taking about the Netpliance i-opener
- hollywood bitchslap has a link to the review of keeping the faith
- linux.com tuneup has some old tip bash history
- geek in space is on "Mellow Trancey Version"
btw, extrans (html tags to text) doesnt work (at least in preview mode)Zetetic
Seeking; proceeding by inquiry.
Elench
A specious but fallacious argument; a sophism.
It's an axiom: when a web site is good AND fast, it attracts more and more viewers. There are no good fast web sites; there are only popular, good but slow websites. I expect Slashdot to be fast for about a month, at which point it will be slow as it ever was.
At least a lot more people will be reading, though.
The SlashBoxes appear to be out of date, or at least the I Cringely, and Advogato ones are.
Otherwise, good job guys.
Jason Pollock.
No wonder it's running faster...
64.28.67.48 is running Microsoft-IIS/5.0 on Windows 2000
"Do you think we could wipe out world hunger forever if scientists figured out how to make AOL's Free CD's edible?"-
How 'bout a poll? Weird seeing none listed. hehe
------- What exactly is real?
Yeah, but that's still a waste of power and money. Maybe /. can afford it now, but if I was running a site like this, I'd use a super-quick threaded web server like Zeus or fhttpd (or even khttpd, the kernel http server, if I wanted to live dangerously!) for serving the images, and Apache for the scripted stuff.
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at least i can fucking think"
Minor Threat
P.S. I'm definitely noticing a nice speed improvement... good work guys! :-)
**sigh** wonder why he didn't put a ;) to make it more OBVIOUS than a slap in the face with a wet trout :P
Rich
I don't know if anyone else has seen this, but the fortune at the bottom of the page hasn't changed in several hours. I've checked it out on several computers, reloading the page doesn't help. Clairol's infinite loop still shows up.
... it is like everything on here loads faster. I think it must be that my isp gave everyone more bandwidth.
And maybe putting the stories in the various sections on the front page as well? If you go to search.pl now they appear there, and there's loads of intersting bits with hardly any comments on them. But unless someone's stayed up late and posted a story between 8 and 9 here in the UK I have to wait until at least 1 for another story. Which sucks :)
The Backend (used by scripts to get the Slashdot Headlines) doesn't appear to be working!
I'm just getting the latest headline and no others.
Anyone else with the same prob?
"How much truth can advertising buy?" - iNsuRge - AK47
"How much truth can advertising buy?" - iNsuRge - AK47
Seems pretty responsive off of my companies fram relay. Keep up the great work on this slashdot site.
Very informitive and great to read in the morning.
coffee47
For the power and security a site like slashdot needs, I am surprised that they haven't switched to Microsoft Windows NT. The boys from Seattle have really done it this time: the all new version for 2000 is hard to beat! Security, stability, scalability, performance-- it's the whole package!
I know it's tempting to go for one of those fly by night 'shareware' operating systems like LinusOS. But, come on now. Slashdot is a big, grown up site. We need NT! Besides, if they get enough business, maybe the Department of Justice won't close down the internet.
Anyway, just another thought from cyberspace-- I'll sign off for now. Gotta get Outlook working again. I've been having trouble ever since I got that joke email-- hope it isn't a virus. If a virus can get past Windows security, can you imagine how many viruses infect LinusOS? I shudder to think.
Not true:-) I said something positive and was marked "Redundant". Now I'll be marked "offtopic":-) Oh well...
Welcome to the world of Information Technology my friend. The truth is that most users notice nothing and appreciate less. That is, until it goes wrong. Then the purveyors of the service get villified ....
/. hehehehe.
/. crew deserve a lot of credit for moving the whole site and making the move pretty painless. It's a lot of work, and I'm personally not looking to move all of my users back to my old production box with the new shareholder accounting system on it. *sigh*
Yeah, I know that all too well. I'm the sole manager of all of the unix machines, and even the databases. Needless to say I have almost too much to do the job I want to do. But the users always ask me what I do. Everytime they walk past my desk I'm always surfing the web. Humm, it's called research...gotta learn about kewl stuff...like reading
Anyway, they don't appreciate too much that the systems don't crash every other day anymore. And heck even some of the others in my IT department have no clue. I found out that on a day off, a couple of the programmers were messing around in the server room, and turned the power key on the production server not knowing what they key does. My boss told them it was a good thing that I wasn't there, I would have strung them up by their toenails. [grin]
The
"If you insist on using Windoze you're on your own."
So will this move make my downloading from warez.slashdot.org faster?
Hey guys, I just wanted to let ya'll know that I can't get www.slashdot.org to come up on IE5. It works fine from Netscape on the same computer. I know this is flamebait but oh well.
> Eep eep
"Eek eek!".
Sorry, I care about these things.
- Tim Skirvin (tskirvin@killfile.org)
Oh no, looks like the two image servers are running Apache too. Sigh. I love Apache as much as the next guy, but its speed for static files is pretty bleak. /. isn't using such an add-on (since it reports no modules in its HEAD response), we're lead to assume that the server is actually going to the filesystem, loading the image into RAM, and then sending it out over the wire for every single request. Wow. Please, correct me if I'm wrong, becuase I hope slash isn't burning that many cycles. . . /. is using in their new servers that doesn't show up on the radar. Anyone know for sure?
I'd guess that these guys are serving a very limited set of files: the section images (say, 2 kb each * 60 or so images) + whatever handful of ads happen to be rotating at any given time (let's say 10 kb each * 25 active ads) + 100 kb for a few random images I forgot = 470 kb.
Even if that's a wild under-estimate, it's still clear that all the active image content at any given time could fit in a tiny fraction of the server's RAM. Apache, however, doesn't cache static files without an add-on module. So, assuming
You might want to try SGI's QSC (quick shortcut cache), which is an Apache patch (not really a module) designed for SPECweb96, or phhttpd, which is quite similar, but a bit more general-purpose. You could certainly experiment with other web servers too, but I'm assuming it's simpler to administer apache across the board.
Oh well, maybe I'm just missing some neat trick that
--JRZ
Praised be Allah!
> ALL HAIL BRAAAAAAK!</a>
My question is, why the big deal ArrowPoint switch? That's a $15,000 unit, and it looks like all you are doing with it is firewalling and load balancing a 100Mbit pipe across 6 web servers. Sure seems to me another VA Debian box could do that for a whole lot less.
Of course ArrowPoint is in the same building as Andover.net, and Exodus is a big ArrowPoint customer. But those aren't reasons to use an expensive, closed solution when an open one would do? Are they?
No troll here, just curious.
--Seen
"I used to be a dilettante. Then I thought I'd try something else for a while."
Now we can watch the trolls:
All this at an even faster rate!
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Am I the only one who thinks Microsoft is a misnomer? Perhaps Macrosoft would be a better fit?
just friggin yay!
I'm using build 2000050709; just trying at access http://www.slashdot.org/index.pl causes that mozilla build to silently crash. Interestingly enough, m15 (build 2000041811) won't load the new slashdot page at all; it just sits there, proclaiming the page is completely loaded, when the canvas is gray.
Is anyone else seeing this?
More importantly, is this just backlash for that last mozilla story from AOLTimeWarnerNetscapeICQNullSoft, or is this a Slashdot bug? ;-)
I saw an error for a few minutes the poll was this http://slashdot.org/pollBooth.pl?qid=hot_steaming_ grits&aid=-1 he he, last time Rob lets those trolls update the server --Nick
Double J. Strictly for the . . .
"However," replied the universe, "The fact has not created in me A sense of obligation."
The new server is alot faster, as located in Andover's dedicated spot with a dedicated link to Exodus..
:)
Right now (051000) IE5 users will find it hard to get in here with a dynamic page, seems to be a bug of some sort.. Will get fixed soon (as from CowboyNeal)
Great job on the server upgrade
Praise the lord!! All ye sinners repent, and enjoy the massive speed of the dual 650's! Anyway, congrats on the good work! ...Now if the ads would just load faster...
wow...that loads like...wow.
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and id gotten used to 45 seconds waiting per page on
looks good guys, great job
"This is where god would go if he wanted to get off blow!"
My MAMA said she WAS REALLY IMPRESSED by the FACT THAT YOU MENTIONED ME in your WEBSITE. Then I had a BANANA.
-BRAK
(THAT'S MY NAAAAAME)
To log in, I had to set Netscape to accept cookies from anywhere (not just originating server), and I got redirected over to beta.slashdot.org. Methinks something still is a little funky.
www.eFax.com are spammers
Seems like everything is rocking..., but I'm getting a slowdown via traceroute on this: bbr01-p5-0.wlhm01.exodus.net (216.32.132.210) Otherwise, things are cool. ;)
Life was hell, then I discovered Linux...
how many people out there realize the amount of work that goes into not being able to notice any differences?
how many more do not give any appreciation to the bump in speed?
humph. Stuff looks good so far guys. Congrats on getting the job right this far.
I notice that /. carefully coordinated with Deja to ensure sufficient updates where taking place...
Operator: Karma Whores Inc. This is Jane. How can I help you?
Caller: Hi. I am a member of KWA (Karma Whores Anonymous) and I am having a breakdown. I NEED TO KARMA WHORE!!!! Where can I satisfy myself.
Operator: Have you been to Slashdot.org?
Caller: Yeah, I have been before but it just didn't give me enough satisfaction.
Operator: How long has it been since you have been on this site.
Caller: A few months.
Operator: Do you not know that Slashdot has a new badass server to fulfill all of your Karma Whore needs?
Caller: Oh, really? I didn't know. Hey, I have to go, I need Karma Whore satisfaction courtesy of Slashdot. Thanks.
Operator: No problem. That's what we're here for. Remember our slogan: "A Karma Whore is just as good a person as anyone else, so whore yourself away!"
I'm a busy guy. I've been reading this site for a few years now, and I usually set my filtering at "2" and pick through just the stories that interest me, to rein in the total amount of time I spend slashdotting. While I'm often tempted to post a comment, I've only done it a couple of times. Maybe it's fear of flame, maybe it's laziness, maybe it's just because after reading *all* the other comments to avoid replicating ideas I become so confused that I forget what triggered my original impulse to post my own comment in the first place. So my slashdot karma is usually zero.
While I appreciate that participation is rewarded in the form of moderator points, that system has a few drawbacks. My proposal is to let users select from among more than one moderation model (the one Rob gives us) on the slashdot preferences page. The preferred model for me would let every user (even lurkers like me) give a 1 (hated it), 2 (ehh, default, unrated), or 3 (loved it) rating to every comment they read, should they feel the impetus to click on the thumbs up or thumbs down button that appears below the comment. Comments could be sorted by the total accumulated points. This would permit other views, such as "top 10 hottest comments", as well as making us lurkers feel more welcome. Well?
never ask a question you don't want to know the answer to
What'd you do different? You broke the slashdot section of wmheadlines, now they're all pointing to local files...
do colos suck?
/.:
I began pondering this when our company put in a beta site at a colo - our ping times were 10 times slower than when the site was hosted off the bosses adsl at home; and the biggest slowdown happens WITHIN the colo's network. whats up with this? do the colo companies (esp the big ones) just suck? or is it more related to peering agreements (which, from the real world point of view, still means the colo companies suck) - unless perhaps the website provider is a really powerful customer and can insist on placement close to the backbone.
here's an example. traceroute to
the real bottlenecks occur once you get IN exodus:
(obviously also at least part of the issue here is that we're traversing the u.s.)
[root@this ~]# traceroute slashdot.org
traceroute to slashdot.org (64.28.67.48), 30 hops max, 40 byte packets
1 192.168.1.1 (192.168.1.1) 0.792 ms 0.552 ms 0.528 ms
2 adslxxx.xxx.net (xxx.xxx.xxx.xxx) 29.647 ms 27.164 ms 31.860 ms
3 core3-g3-0.snfc21.pbi.net (216.102.187.129) 16.357 ms 16.083 ms 16.763 ms
4 edge1-ge1-0.snfc21.pbi.net (209.232.130.20) 15.901 ms 14.886 ms 15.768 ms
5 edge2-g2-0.snfc21.pbi.net (209.232.130.3) 15.655 ms 18.073 ms 15.321 ms
6 ibr02-pbnap.sntc03.exodus.net (198.32.128.22) 19.220 ms 16.381 ms 16.372 ms
7 bbr01-g4-0.sntc03.exodus.net (216.33.153.1) 18.755 ms 20.447 ms 19.539 ms
8 bbr02-p5-0-0.sntc04.exodus.net (216.32.132.217) 18.445 ms 17.942 ms 20.506 ms
9 bbr02-p3-0.okbr01.exodus.net (216.32.132.149) 72.767 ms 68.772 ms 69.457 ms
10 bbr01-p5-0.wlhm01.exodus.net (216.32.132.210) 85.572 ms 86.159 ms 86.392 ms
11 dcr03-g2-0.wlhm01.exodus.net (64.14.70.65) 85.040 ms 87.470 ms 84.788 ms
12 64.14.80.130 (64.14.80.130) 92.978 ms 90.113 ms 93.580 ms
13 64.28.66.204 (64.28.66.204) 86.221 ms 87.361 ms 86.796 ms
14 * * *
15 *^C
comments, anyone? more anecdotal examples? more examples, less anecdotal?
Is it just me or has anyone noticed that anything positive about /. has gotten at least a 2 score. Does this mean that with this new setup /. bashing will discontinue?
The link is here
I can't belive i forgot my HTML ; (
Double J. Strictly for the . . .
"However," replied the universe, "The fact has not created in me A sense of obligation."
I can (apparently) post non-anonymously by entering my nick/pass when I post, but if I try to log in normally, it doesn't take. i.e. I get redirected from the login page to wherever I was, but I'm still not logged in.
"The simplest solution is to ignore your dead children."
Disregard. I'm an ijit, and forgot that I disabled cookies yesterday, for reasons I've already forgotten.
"The simplest solution is to ignore your dead children."
Yeah, but my tie is still open
Hi,
Apache may not cache the resulting images, but the filesystem should. Unless they're running a braind^D^D^D^D^D^DMicrosoft system, I would strongly expect the caching to work properly and that the images _will_ really be stored in system memory - apache will ask the filesystem driver to get the images, it will fetch them from its RAM cache - everyone's happy.
Note to people: I am not any real apache user, so for all I know it could implement the filesystem driver in its source and read stuff from the raw device - this seems increadily unlikely though so I would assume that my comment above is perfectly valid - please correct me if I am wrong.
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Jonathan.
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Hip-hip...hooray!
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Hip-hip...hooray!
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This is REAL good. Refresh doesn't work on my 98 machine (IE5), but everything is looking swell from linux boxes. Just use 98 for CounterStrike and all will be fine. VERY fast connection too, no more waiting. I hope my companies move of our (puny) 25 servers goes half this smoothly, we're trying to plan for 0 downtime, hope we pull it off as well as you all did.
I like music
Well done guys - seriously overdue... In Australia we often wondered if the whole of Slashdot ran on a 286 pc - yes it was that slow... But NOW its fixed :) Excellent...
Hey, it feels faster to me, but is that perhaps just because most people haven't caught up with the DNS changes and are going somewhere else? Have we lucky few just got a private slashdot server?
:)
I'll reserve judgement until normal load is restored.
But hey - looks like a smooth changeover. Well done.
Wasting your time since 1997.
The data format of http://slashdot.org/slashdot.xml has been changed! It broke my slashdot headlines generating script, becuase the <url> tag does not have the full URL!!
Please Fix..
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Its just soooo sweeeet :)
That and stats on hits/sec, SQL requests/sec, blah blah...
I hope /. moving in to EXDS helps the stock
Congratulations on moving Slashdot.org to the new server machines.
:-(
The ultimate test will be later today, when at the middle of the day will Slashdot.org be able to keep up with the big demands from users. This was a BIG problem with Slashdot.org on weekdays, because in the middle of a weekday Slashdot.org often slowed to a deadly crawl.
Raymond in Mountain View, CA
I really hate leaving comments like this (short w/ no substance), but man your server is fast now! Usually it takes about 10-15 seconds to load, but now it's up in about a second. Good job :-)
- A.P.
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"One World, one Web, one Program" - Microsoft promotional ad
"Remember when the U.S. had a drug problem, and then we declared a War On Drugs, and now you can't buy drugs anymore?"
Wonderful. This lurker just wanted to unlurk to say Tres Bien. /. is a regular stop on the way to daily reading. Dual 650's sound nice. Much quicker load on this 45333 connect. Looking forward to the rest of your config/setup info. artr ... from the Great Wet/Windy (not White) North ...
The change looked smooth from this end, and the new hardware is speedy as all-get-out. Pages load in a blink. Great job, guys!
And the brethren went away edified.
can I have your old boxen:)
There's a spider on your shoulder.
Its much faster, but traceroute shows a dramatic slowdown (76ms to 234ms) between bb2-se1-0-0.mae-e.nap.home.net (my ISP) and mae-east2.dn.net (Exchange Point Blocks)... wonder if they got like a single ISDN there...
Mark Duell