They still have their points, but each side too much with one side to consider it a national movement...just a party movement.
National movement. Exactly this!
In fact, Ron Paul DID start the original tea party idea before it was hijacked by a bunch of idiots and absorbed in to a Republican movement. There fixed that for you.
Currently the only real political movement in America is Ron Paul's Revolution. Regardless of what you think of him, whether he will win or not, what media says, the simple fact is that it is the Revolution is the only real political movement in America.
I've spent the last 10 years (since being found guilty of monopoly) avoiding the M$ tax, why would I start sending them money now just because "smart phones" are the current business model?
At its core the CIA just lays the ground work in advance for an invasion/occupation. Groups like this should be rolled into the military since that's all they are.
Thank you for sharing the full quote, for a moment I thought maybe I didn't understand John Adams, but this reassured me. Thanks. Wonder if anyone will mod you up for giving the full quote. How does the OP respond to this full quote?
The founders of the USA - which is to say the delegates to the Continental Congress and its successor bodies - were, admittedly, mostly at least nominally Christian. But the country that they created was, by design, emphatically a secular entity.
That's all I was trying to say. Nowhere in my post did I ever communicate anything remotely non-secular. The rest of your post is just you rambling about how you imagine me, or boasting up your ego... You set forth ideas none of which have ever been processed by my brain. I don't think I even know a single Southern Baptist, but if they are filled with as much hate as you seem to be, then maybe I have? I'm glad you saw this as an opportunity for a flame war. I really don't participate in those.
I'm all for separation of church and state, but someone has to run the country correct? If their were ever a man who came off as honest, and moral as Ron Paul does, regardless of Mormon or atheist he would have my vote, but until someone from those sections show up I'm going to have to continue siding with my faith, and others with similar faiths. Not every last belief someone holds is political. When someone buys into that, they are just being foolish. If you can't understand why a man who delievered babies for 30 years is pro-choice then your head is in the sad. Luckily the same man understands personal liberties, and wouldn't outlaw it. Just because he personally wouldn't perform one, doesn't mean he can't understand the medical need for it.
If it were not for their faith would the founders have been enlightened enough to write the documents in the manner in which they did? Neither of us can really say. I'm not trying to draw more battle lines either, just attempting to illustrate that if faith/religion gives us otherwise moronic human race a way of being peaceful, moral, and prosperous then it's generally a good thing. If you found a way to be peaceful, moral, and prosperous without having faith/religion that too is great. Just a bit harder to arrive at I guess?
I'm not here to play moral police, if you're not paying taxes you're good in my book folks!!
I've just got done doing 6 years active duty Army. I'm not saying soldiers downrange are not thinking! They are some of the best and brightest. That doesn't mean that they (and I) are incapable of buying into all the lies hook line and sinker. I want to defend yours, and my children's liberties more than anything in the world, but could no longer partake after what I saw first hand going on. Seeing the federal waste first hand has deeply effected me, much like the violence a Vietnam soldier would have saw deeply effected him. (Think military-industrial complex) My main point is that the people who volunteer have a much deeper sense of what freedom is VS. what some dickhead/.'er who is just highly educated on the idea/history/basis of freedom. America should be listening to us, not the pundit morons. Will they? No, but they have those stupid Yellow Ribbons on the back of their foreign car, so they don't need to support us any further. Want proof or an example? Someone will only see the bold statement at the end here, and dismiss it as stupidty because he is SO educated on SO many other things.
Props given where props are due, but the division that is currently happen within the US needs to be addressed.
Someone mentioned separation of church and state. That has NOTHING to do with how faithful/religious the leaders are, that simply has to do with PROTECTING your liberty to practice whatever you wish. Just because a person is Christian DOES not mean they are part of this neo-conservative movement currently happening. When people jump strait to that thought, and put out the possibility of it happening it creates fear in those who wish to practice something else, or nothing at all. The idea you fear someone who you think is stupid is kinda laughable, and kinda makes you stupid. Education on violence is the last thing people want, which is sad. It should be the first thing taught at a certain age/maturity level.
Lesson 1: If we have anarchy (i.e. no government) paying for healthcare will no longer be a concern. Paying for protection will be your #1 expense. Unless you can protect yourself, then your #1 concern will be finding those (to offer services, or force your will...depends on your morality) who can't. The mass majority of people can't protect themselves even with the right tools. What good is a hammer if your not a carpenter? Can you use it? Sure. Can you use it and end up with the same results a carpenter would? (i.e building a house) Not a chance.
I guess the 6 years i just got done serving as Active Duty Army doesn't count? Really that quote has just helped me personally, I don't mean it applies to all soldiers. Here is a better one for you:
Boredom, Soldiers, Sailors, and War:
"I suppose every man is shocked when he hears how frequently soldiers are wishing for war. The wish is not always sincere; the greater part are content with sleep and lace, and counterfeit an ardour which they do not feel; but those who desire it most are neither prompted by malevolence nor patriotism; they neither pant for laurels, nor delight in blood; but long to be delivered from the tyranny of idleness, and restored to the dignity of active beings."
The USA is a Republic, a nation of laws. Societies views of what is acceptable and what is not is what form these laws. Are we a democracy in the sense we are allowed to go vote? Yes. Does your vote matter when the Supreme Court decides the outcome of elections? Is your vote an educated one with the now involvement of SUPER PAC's?
If this small article makes you feel that good, you should take a look at the Ron Paul 2012 campaign.
People will object to this because they will view it as political, but I doubt those people are Vets. I doubt those people would step in the ring with a Pro Boxer, but will argue freedom and liberty with those who take it on professionally. No man is perfect, otherwise he wouldn't be a man, but a God.
I offer you a quote that might shed some light on the difference between Hollywood's version of good guys, and the real thing.
"If soldiers thought, they wouldn't be soldiers."
The line between police and military is becoming grey in the US. They want them to be interchangeable. Once the general public has accepted the fact that your liberties are provided to you by the government, and not your Creator we will be doomed.
Don't believe in a creator? That's fine, but understand this country was founded by Religous people and we will always be fighting to govern it, because we know our rights are provided by our Creator.
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Personal Liberty. #CombatVeteransForRonPaul2012
That's okay. Neither has Windows. I mean, it can move them, but who knows where?
Use the right mouse button during drag-and-drop operations to receive the menu that gives you the option to MOVE or COPY.
Seems pretty simple to me.
In the next Presidential election, there isn't any candidate who I can vote for with a clear conscience. This is sad.
I will vote for the least scared politician.
It would seem the media blackout of Ron Paul is effecting you greatly. As a fellow veteran I urge you to visit The Daily Paul and reconsider!
They still have their points, but each side too much with one side to consider it a national movement...just a party movement.
National movement. Exactly this!
In fact, Ron Paul DID start the original tea party idea before it was hijacked by a bunch of idiots and absorbed in to a Republican movement.
There fixed that for you.
Ron Paul's revolution was wearing "V for Vendetta" masks waaaaaaay before anonymous, and those lazy occupiers.
Remember, remember, the 5th of November....
On November 5th, 2007 Ron Paul supporters made history by raising over 4.3 million dollars in a single day.
Currently the only real political movement in America is Ron Paul's Revolution. Regardless of what you think of him, whether he will win or not, what media says, the simple fact is that it is the Revolution is the only real political movement in America.
2 boarders. There are 2 boarders. Defending those two cost less than operating bases in how many countries?
You tell me!
Not having this conv.......
Of the military industrial complex.
Yahoo! Is never going to be cool again. Let's cash out.
Facebook is a bubble let's cash out.
I've spent the last 10 years (since being found guilty of monopoly) avoiding the M$ tax, why would I start sending them money now just because "smart phones" are the current business model?
At its core the CIA just lays the ground work in advance for an invasion/occupation. Groups like this should be rolled into the military since that's all they are.
RON PAUL 2012
It is so, if you think it so...http://www.eldritchpress.org/lp/itisso.htm
Thank you for sharing the full quote, for a moment I thought maybe I didn't understand John Adams, but this reassured me. Thanks. Wonder if anyone will mod you up for giving the full quote. How does the OP respond to this full quote?
The founders of the USA - which is to say the delegates to the Continental Congress and its successor bodies - were, admittedly, mostly at least nominally Christian. But the country that they created was, by design, emphatically a secular entity.
That's all I was trying to say. Nowhere in my post did I ever communicate anything remotely non-secular. The rest of your post is just you rambling about how you imagine me, or boasting up your ego... You set forth ideas none of which have ever been processed by my brain. I don't think I even know a single Southern Baptist, but if they are filled with as much hate as you seem to be, then maybe I have? I'm glad you saw this as an opportunity for a flame war. I really don't participate in those.
So, in conclusion, Jesus loves you.
Cool, I'm glad you enjoyed it! Here is link to give credit! Many more good ones here to if you're interested.
http://www.samueljohnson.com/soldiers.html
I'm all for separation of church and state, but someone has to run the country correct? If their were ever a man who came off as honest, and moral as Ron Paul does, regardless of Mormon or atheist he would have my vote, but until someone from those sections show up I'm going to have to continue siding with my faith, and others with similar faiths. Not every last belief someone holds is political. When someone buys into that, they are just being foolish. If you can't understand why a man who delievered babies for 30 years is pro-choice then your head is in the sad. Luckily the same man understands personal liberties, and wouldn't outlaw it. Just because he personally wouldn't perform one, doesn't mean he can't understand the medical need for it.
If it were not for their faith would the founders have been enlightened enough to write the documents in the manner in which they did? Neither of us can really say. I'm not trying to draw more battle lines either, just attempting to illustrate that if faith/religion gives us otherwise moronic human race a way of being peaceful, moral, and prosperous then it's generally a good thing. If you found a way to be peaceful, moral, and prosperous without having faith/religion that too is great. Just a bit harder to arrive at I guess?
I'm not here to play moral police, if you're not paying taxes you're good in my book folks!!
Second, spend more time with soldiers.
I've just got done doing 6 years active duty Army. I'm not saying soldiers downrange are not thinking! They are some of the best and brightest. That doesn't mean that they (and I) are incapable of buying into all the lies hook line and sinker. /.'er who is just highly educated on the idea/history/basis of freedom. America should be listening to us, not the pundit morons. Will they? No, but they have those stupid Yellow Ribbons on the back of their foreign car, so they don't need to support us any further. Want proof or an example? Someone will only see the bold statement at the end here, and dismiss it as stupidty because he is SO educated on SO many other things.
I want to defend yours, and my children's liberties more than anything in the world, but could no longer partake after what I saw first hand going on. Seeing the federal waste first hand has deeply effected me, much like the violence a Vietnam soldier would have saw deeply effected him. (Think military-industrial complex)
My main point is that the people who volunteer have a much deeper sense of what freedom is VS. what some dickhead
RON PAUL 2012
Props given where props are due, but the division that is currently happen within the US needs to be addressed.
Someone mentioned separation of church and state. That has NOTHING to do with how faithful/religious the leaders are, that simply has to do with PROTECTING your liberty to practice whatever you wish. Just because a person is Christian DOES not mean they are part of this neo-conservative movement currently happening. When people jump strait to that thought, and put out the possibility of it happening it creates fear in those who wish to practice something else, or nothing at all. The idea you fear someone who you think is stupid is kinda laughable, and kinda makes you stupid. Education on violence is the last thing people want, which is sad. It should be the first thing taught at a certain age/maturity level.
Lesson 1: If we have anarchy (i.e. no government) paying for healthcare will no longer be a concern. Paying for protection will be your #1 expense. Unless you can protect yourself, then your #1 concern will be finding those (to offer services, or force your will...depends on your morality) who can't. The mass majority of people can't protect themselves even with the right tools. What good is a hammer if your not a carpenter? Can you use it? Sure. Can you use it and end up with the same results a carpenter would? (i.e building a house) Not a chance.
I guess the 6 years i just got done serving as Active Duty Army doesn't count? Really that quote has just helped me personally, I don't mean it applies to all soldiers. Here is a better one for you:
Boredom, Soldiers, Sailors, and War:
"I suppose every man is shocked when he hears how frequently soldiers are wishing for war. The wish is not always sincere; the greater part are content with sleep and lace, and counterfeit an ardour which they do not feel; but those who desire it most are neither prompted by malevolence nor patriotism; they neither pant for laurels, nor delight in blood; but long to be delivered from the tyranny of idleness, and restored to the dignity of active beings."
You live in a democracy.
The USA is a Republic, a nation of laws. Societies views of what is acceptable and what is not is what form these laws.
Are we a democracy in the sense we are allowed to go vote? Yes. Does your vote matter when the Supreme Court decides the outcome of elections? Is your vote an educated one with the now involvement of SUPER PAC's?
If this small article makes you feel that good, you should take a look at the Ron Paul 2012 campaign.
People will object to this because they will view it as political, but I doubt those people are Vets. I doubt those people would step in the ring with a Pro Boxer, but will argue freedom and liberty with those who take it on professionally. No man is perfect, otherwise he wouldn't be a man, but a God.
I offer you a quote that might shed some light on the difference between Hollywood's version of good guys, and the real thing.
"If soldiers thought, they wouldn't be soldiers."
The line between police and military is becoming grey in the US. They want them to be interchangeable. Once the general public has accepted the fact that your liberties are provided to you by the government, and not your Creator we will be doomed.
Don't believe in a creator? That's fine, but understand this country was founded by Religous people and we will always be fighting to govern it, because we know our rights are provided by our Creator.
Tulip mania!
10 billion isn't cool. You know whats cool? Invading privacy.
A great American put that in my home. Remember that, and do your best to avoid buying from China.
They would need Ted Turner as a partner then!