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Google Set To Meld Google Drive With Chrome OS
MikeatWired writes "Google will tightly integrate its new Google Drive online storage service with an upcoming version of its Chrome OS operating system, says Sundar Pichai, who oversees development of the company's Chrome products as well as its Google Apps online services. Chrome OS is Google's effort to move all applications and data onto the web (and its Chrome browser), but the OS still hasn't mastered the art of moving files from place to place. By integrating Chrome OS with Google Drive — the online storage service Google introduced on Tuesday — the company seeks to correct this problem. 'With Chromebooks, [Google Drive] is even more powerful,' Pichai says, 'because it just starts working naturally. Your local drive is also Google Drive. This makes it really powerful because you just don't think about it.' Basically, Google Drive — a service that operates on the web — will perform as if it was the local file system. If you open the 'save file' dialog box on Chrome OS, for instance, the system will take you straight to Google Drive. 'We'll effectively integrate [Google] Drive into the native file system of Chrome OS,' says Scott Johnson, Google's Google Drive product manager. 'All the core OS functionality will use [Google] Drive as a place to store data — if that's what you opt in to.'"
From http://www.zdnet.com/blog/btl/how-far-do-google-drives-terms-go-in-owning-your-files/75228
Google Drive terms:
“Your Content in our Services: When you upload or otherwise submit content to our Services, you give Google (and those we work with) a worldwide licence to use, host, store, reproduce, modify, create derivative works (such as those resulting from translations, adaptations or other changes that we make so that your content works better with our Services), communicate, publish, publicly perform, publicly display and distribute such content
Dropbox's and Skydrive's terms are more sane.
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Stereotypical area of failure for networked home dirs is one user account can have more than one device.
I see it at home everyday with my AFS home directories and bizarre behavior when two machines logged in at the same time try to run awesome and firefox at the same time.
Not saying GOOG drive will/must fail this way, but I'm sure many GOOG-drive API using devs won't think of it and will find a way to fail, its the hardest problem not mentioned in the article.
On an optimistic note, I have a couple android devices now and they all live under the same google account perfectly.
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That's okay. Neither has Windows. I mean, it can move them, but who knows where?
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I guess if you are in middle- or high-school, this could be a nice service for storing your homework and such. But if you are a business, or your files need to stay confidential for some other reason? I don't think Google Drive can be trusted with that kind of material. Even if it is encrypted or such. Just saying...
Why did the chicken cross the road? Because Elon Musk put an AI chip in its head.
What if you are not connected to the internet constantly? does this make your device worthless? How does one work 'offline'?
Which sounds pretty reasonable. The problem comes earlier in the "agreement,"
So the "agreement" grants Apple privileges to spy on your data and pass it along to any unspecified "third party" or their choice, if they feel like you might be doing something they dislike. I read it; I didn't sign it. I don't think anyone should.
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davfs2 - mount a WebDAV-capable server as a filesystem. Dates back to at least 2009.
No Vertical Tabs = Chrome Sucks = Chrome OS sucks. /thread
Your google laptop can't do anything..... not even access your files. This has happened just twice at home, but seems to happen a LOT at work and in hotels. I'd rather have local dh0: copies of my programs and files, so I can work while offline,
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"This makes it really powerful because you just don't think about it". This is a pretty good summary of the way in which companies such as Google make their profit. These days, it is quite essential to "think about it".
Actions like this reveal a lot about everyone involved.
1. Google is out of their bloody minds for putting such terms into their agreement. They're either incredibly evil (and arrogant enough to think they can get away with it) or incredibly stupid. Given what I've seen of their software development -- Google has a monopoly on software that's about 90% and is then never finished -- I'd guess they're just plain stupid.
2. The slashdot crowd and similar uber geeks see the problem and react with appropriate hostility and try to get their employers, friends, relatives, etc. to avoid using the service.
3. The overwhelming majority of people who know barely enough to turn on their computer and get to facebook will say, "Golly! This is neato! I can share all sorts of stuff with cousin Floyd!", and either not know about the hideous terms in the agreement or will hear about it from one of us and then ignore our advice.
4. Competitors will mostly be happy that Google will lower the privacy bar, yet again, making it even easier for them to do similar things.
Dump chrome OS. Nobody cares about it. Fold the best bits into Android and bury the rest.
You use the locally-cached version of the files. That's what "your local drive is also Google Drive" means. It means that, just as with the Google Drive app for MacOS or Windows, your Google Drive has a local copy.
For apps, you use Chrome's app installation features to make offline-available web apps. So, both your files and the apps you use to work with them are available locally when disconnected, and synced with the cloud when a connection is available.
So innovative of them.
is in place, and it does not specifically exclude the interactions between Chrome and Google Drive that are the topic of this thread, then Google is free to do what the agreement says. It doesn't matter that "They have to have those permissions for things like OCR and image search to work.". It only matters what the agreement says. (Notwithstanding any supervening law, of course.)
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It's like they're trying to take everyone back to the 70s.
I give it 10 more years before Google and friends completely neuter personal computing.
Google is more evil than Microsoft ever was.
All your content are belong to us?
If there was a driver that would encrypt/decrypt the traffic en route then maybe I'd store stuff in the free version. Then I could share the key w/ my work PC or a co-worker or whoever I want to grant access to the files.
Google is brilliant at getting us to turn over information to them. If I store a file it is for MY use, not theirs. Especially if I have a paid account, then using the data to spam me w/ ads is even worse.
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I already have a G drive mapped on my Windows computer... How could I have two?!?!
...whose incompetence has resulted in the shutdown of the Atlanta engineering office?
FYI - I was trying to get an answer on this one and found this reference. A Google gears Widget present in Chrome will synchronize your drive for offline viewing.
http://www.karthikk.net/2012/04/how-to-access-google-drive-without-internet-on-your-windows-or-mac-machine-google-drive-howto/
Although I'm still trying to figure out why I'm letting other people's insecurity affect my judgement on the purpose of cloud storage and the value of free.
It is also for services like Docs/Drive that, like YouTube, allow sharing content and which, like YouTube, allow something that might be construed as "performing" the content. (E.g., showing of Docs presentations.)
Note that the terms of service both expressly recognizes that the user retains ownership of content and expressly references user control of content through "settings" in particular Services.
Also note that in US law (under which, and particularly California law, per its own terms the Google TOS are governed), an agreement whose terms are wholly controlled by one party is generally interpreted as generously as it can be reasonably read in favor of the other party.
The theory being that the written terms of an agreement aren't what is controlling so much as the "meeting of the minds" for which the terms serve as evidence. So when you have an agreement that is a public offer with terms controlled by one party rather than the product of negotiation between the parties, the only fair interpretation of where the "meeting of the minds" was is the place most favorable to the party who didn't control the text, but only read it.
The question is why Slashdot hasn't posted anything about that controversy but instead chose to post about Chrome OS, which nobody uses or cares about. In fact, there's been a lot of shady, selective coverage in the last 12 months that ignores stories that are huge on the rest of the web but happen to be negative toward entities that are popular among Slashdot commenters.
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I don't know if I like having my hard drive linked to corporate mass-hard drive for "free". I don't trust it, no matter who it is.
I guess that answers the speculations, whether you will be able to use Google Drive with Linux: Unless google brakes the openness of ChromeOS, yes.
And as long as they don't forbid crypt, that works for me
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I wonder how the google drive will be synched with the local drive, as the storage limit for cloud drive access, is definately smaller than the hdd we have on the computers we use today. I wonder how they will incorporate a sort of limit watcher to let you know even though you can save it locally , you have obtained your limit in your google drive account.
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