The standards for html and css are there, and Outlook has no intention of meeting them.
It's even worse than most people would assume. Outlook is probably the last place on earth where HTML tables are still the only way to have some kind of control over the layout. You can have a team of designers creating a single web page that works well in all browsers on all major o/s, but they're still going to need a different, retarded design for Outlook.
I don't understand how anyone at Microsoft can sleep at night knowing that they sell this piece of shit. HTML is a solved problem, there's at least 4 or 5 engines they could use if they don't want to port the one they have for edge, there's just no excuses for this laziness and nonchalance.
i used YAHOOpops for the longest time... what that was is a background service that effectively sat on a lan ipaddr and localhost ipaddr, pre-configured to login to your favorite yahoo webmail acct through http port 80 simulated web browsing requests, and then abstracted your webmail as a pop3/smtp host service. it worked awesome until recaptcha would interrupt your session and that means you had to open a browser to re-negotiate your yahoo login to continue your host simulated mail service.
This has to be the most horrible setup possible, short of using Lotus Notes
But the only thing I've ever stuck with is Inbox Zero, which I've been at least since before 2004 (when my GMail archive began). It's so incredibly worth it and doesn't require any special tools or client, only dedication.
Just out of curiosity, have you tried not caring about email instead? Just have a casual look once or twice a day, and delete everything unread once a week. It's like getting out of jail.
I also do not like HTML in my mail, nor do I like linked pictures and graphics.
Are you one of those people who reply to HTML with plain text, and who use *stars* and _underscore_ to emphasize things since bold and italic are unavailable in plain text?
When I get one of those email I always feel like one-upping the sender by replying with direct uuencoding.
Thunderbird, and I have the inbox zero strategy. It helps me getting ahead of the game and not lag behind at work because then I can figure out what's important to work on and stay clear of working on futile things.
I use a streamlined version of inbox zero. Every Monday I do a CTRL-A + DELETE on the entire inbox. It's scary the first couple times but after that it's quite zen. I also aggressively auto-blacklist fluff, HR announcements, status updates and anything where I'm in CC. It doesn't take long to realize how futile email is.
Auto-configuration nowadays is a lot better in pretty much any email client, thanks to our friend the DNS. But Thunderbird is still a bit behind in that regard compared to outlook.
You mean the fantasy you have about them doing anything illegal?
Meanwhile, Trump made fake magazine covers of himself.
Right. Trump made fake magazine covers, and Clinton took money from Putin, from China, from Saudis and so on. I can see why you would throw Trump in jail and give Clinton the keys to the white house.
Looks to me that you're the one who's pretty intense on the whole cocksucking/gay stuff. Maybe you have issues to deal with before you can get involed in serious discussions.
If a presidential candidate or surrogates secretly work with a foreign adversary to manipulate elections and get their candidate elected, that would be a pretty textbook case of treason.
Where do you see Bail Bonds as predatory? ( like what state? ) I work in the Bail Bonds industry, I am curious.
Because there's a 10% or 15% premium (give or take) and a captive market. So basically people pay to stay out of jail because they don't have the money to post a bond themselves. I'm not saying the service should be free but correct me if I'm mistaken: on most cases the bondsman doesn't pay a dime to get that 10% fee.
Payday lenders make sure they are paid first whether the borrower has the money or not, so in many cases what would be a default is turned into an overdraft fee instead.
Believe it or not, that's basically a form of credit, just like when someone only pays the minimum on their credit card debt. There's nothing crooked or evil about it.
Here's a quote from the lobbyist leading this boycott:
At a time when corporations are finally being held accountable for their roles in enabling mass incarceration, it is encouraging to see a company as powerful as Google cutting ties with businesses that profit from incarcerating poor Black and brown people... Google's announcement comes after months of advocacy by our organizations. We hope this decision encourages other corporations to take proactive steps to sever ties with the for-profit bail industry and end the incentives that fuel mass incarceration.
This is retarded. The bail industry is not "fueling mass incarceration", they're allowing people with limited funds to remain free instead of waiting in jail for months or years.
It's not dumb terminals, it's more like having a mini Google in semis and uhauls parked in every neighborhood in the world, for the sake of making your echo chamber as regional as possible. It's divide and conquer, pure and simple
The Cloud can be useful. For instance I pay $5/month for Office365, where I have a big inbox for +50 domains, and I have a TB of OneDrive storage, and once in a blue moon when I need to use Excel or Word I can use the web version. If it was $100/month I'd probably put together my own box and stash it somewhere in a closet, but for $5 it's totally worth letting Microsoft deal with the hassle.
Virtual machines are a different beast. It's very expensive to get anything semi-reliable in the cloud (no SLA unless you have a LB cluster) and because everything is a la carte it adds up. On a dollar basis, nothing beats a decent VPS like Linode.
Because "Client side processing" is soooo 90s and early 2000s!!
(rolls eyes)
Edge computing doesn't mean client-side computing. It means that The Big Cloud has a lot ot Tiny Clouds spread all over the globe to store your browsing history (and emails if you use gmail) closer to regional advertisers.
Democracy is a good thing, but not in a courtroom.
That's one of the good sides of ISIS. They have an excellent justice system that is not hindered by something as finicky as the will of the citizens living in the area. When they stone liars or throw traitors from the roof of buildings, when they crucify thieves or burn spies alive, they not only remove problems from the equation, they also send a clear message.
Spot on. Just like payday loans, bail bonds are predatory but they're also the last resort for people who are laughed out of banks and credit unions. If they no longer have access to this type of short term credit, where will those people go? No credit cards, no lines of credit, no valuables to pawn - what's left? Nothing legal.
The rich hypocrites who decides for the poor always bring up those shameful annual interest rates or those people who pay loans for years. What they fail to mention is that payday loans have a lower default rate than mortgages.
But let's not bother with facts, let's just accept the dogma cast upon us from the ivory towers of California. Once again Google acts as a vehicle for the shallow social agenda of political correctness of the Silicon Valley elite, sweeping problems under the rug of "someone else fix it". Fuck those arrogant bastards.
Maybe it's like in that alleged quote from Henry Ford, maybe we're all "asking for faster horses". If storing electrical power is such a challenge maybe the real solution involves rethinking the whole power ecosystem.
When my house is pumping out 5 kW more than I'm using, then I'm pretty much powering three houses that do not have solar capacity
Your extra 5 kW in the daytime doesn't cover your own needs at night time. That's the weak link I mentioned.
Solar is not the complete answer to the problem. That's like saying: let's use bikes to solve traffic problems in NYC. It's great, 6 months out of 12. It doesn't mean "fuck bikes let's use SUV" it means "the solution is incomplete".
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The standards for html and css are there, and Outlook has no intention of meeting them.
It's even worse than most people would assume. Outlook is probably the last place on earth where HTML tables are still the only way to have some kind of control over the layout. You can have a team of designers creating a single web page that works well in all browsers on all major o/s, but they're still going to need a different, retarded design for Outlook.
I don't understand how anyone at Microsoft can sleep at night knowing that they sell this piece of shit. HTML is a solved problem, there's at least 4 or 5 engines they could use if they don't want to port the one they have for edge, there's just no excuses for this laziness and nonchalance.
i used YAHOOpops for the longest time... what that was is a background service that effectively sat on a lan ipaddr and localhost ipaddr, pre-configured to login to your favorite yahoo webmail acct through http port 80 simulated web browsing requests, and then abstracted your webmail as a pop3/smtp host service. it worked awesome until recaptcha would interrupt your session and that means you had to open a browser to re-negotiate your yahoo login to continue your host simulated mail service.
This has to be the most horrible setup possible, short of using Lotus Notes
But the only thing I've ever stuck with is Inbox Zero, which I've been at least since before 2004 (when my GMail archive began). It's so incredibly worth it and doesn't require any special tools or client, only dedication.
Just out of curiosity, have you tried not caring about email instead? Just have a casual look once or twice a day, and delete everything unread once a week. It's like getting out of jail.
I also do not like HTML in my mail, nor do I like linked pictures and graphics.
Are you one of those people who reply to HTML with plain text, and who use *stars* and _underscore_ to emphasize things since bold and italic are unavailable in plain text?
When I get one of those email I always feel like one-upping the sender by replying with direct uuencoding.
Thunderbird, and I have the inbox zero strategy. It helps me getting ahead of the game and not lag behind at work because then I can figure out what's important to work on and stay clear of working on futile things.
I use a streamlined version of inbox zero. Every Monday I do a CTRL-A + DELETE on the entire inbox. It's scary the first couple times but after that it's quite zen. I also aggressively auto-blacklist fluff, HR announcements, status updates and anything where I'm in CC. It doesn't take long to realize how futile email is.
Auto-configuration nowadays is a lot better in pretty much any email client, thanks to our friend the DNS. But Thunderbird is still a bit behind in that regard compared to outlook.
Thunderbird on the desktop for serious work
I wonder what kind of serious work involves email.
You mean the fantasy you have about them doing anything illegal?
Meanwhile, Trump made fake magazine covers of himself.
Right. Trump made fake magazine covers, and Clinton took money from Putin, from China, from Saudis and so on. I can see why you would throw Trump in jail and give Clinton the keys to the white house.
change the theme of your cocksucking fawning
Looks to me that you're the one who's pretty intense on the whole cocksucking/gay stuff. Maybe you have issues to deal with before you can get involed in serious discussions.
If a presidential candidate or surrogates secretly work with a foreign adversary to manipulate elections and get their candidate elected, that would be a pretty textbook case of treason.
You mean like the Clinton Foundation?
Where do you see Bail Bonds as predatory? ( like what state? )
I work in the Bail Bonds industry, I am curious.
Because there's a 10% or 15% premium (give or take) and a captive market. So basically people pay to stay out of jail because they don't have the money to post a bond themselves. I'm not saying the service should be free but correct me if I'm mistaken: on most cases the bondsman doesn't pay a dime to get that 10% fee.
"Rich hypocrites" ? If you dislike it, open up your own payday company and charge lower interest.
I was referring to Google. Next time you have an unused quota of SJW accusations try to find a more relevant thread to spend it.
Payday lenders make sure they are paid first whether the borrower has the money or not, so in many cases what would be a default is turned into an overdraft fee instead.
Believe it or not, that's basically a form of credit, just like when someone only pays the minimum on their credit card debt. There's nothing crooked or evil about it.
Here's a quote from the lobbyist leading this boycott:
At a time when corporations are finally being held accountable for their roles in enabling mass incarceration, it is encouraging to see a company as powerful as Google cutting ties with businesses that profit from incarcerating poor Black and brown people... Google's announcement comes after months of advocacy by our organizations. We hope this decision encourages other corporations to take proactive steps to sever ties with the for-profit bail industry and end the incentives that fuel mass incarceration.
This is retarded. The bail industry is not "fueling mass incarceration", they're allowing people with limited funds to remain free instead of waiting in jail for months or years.
It's not dumb terminals, it's more like having a mini Google in semis and uhauls parked in every neighborhood in the world, for the sake of making your echo chamber as regional as possible. It's divide and conquer, pure and simple
I stopped reading at "I stopped reading"
The Cloud can be useful. For instance I pay $5/month for Office365, where I have a big inbox for +50 domains, and I have a TB of OneDrive storage, and once in a blue moon when I need to use Excel or Word I can use the web version. If it was $100/month I'd probably put together my own box and stash it somewhere in a closet, but for $5 it's totally worth letting Microsoft deal with the hassle.
Virtual machines are a different beast. It's very expensive to get anything semi-reliable in the cloud (no SLA unless you have a LB cluster) and because everything is a la carte it adds up. On a dollar basis, nothing beats a decent VPS like Linode.
A lot of people have swallowed the "container in the cloud" kool-aid by the gallons.
Dude that's so 2016. Kool Kids now use Serverless, not containers.
Because "Client side processing" is soooo 90s and early 2000s!!
(rolls eyes)
Edge computing doesn't mean client-side computing. It means that The Big Cloud has a lot ot Tiny Clouds spread all over the globe to store your browsing history (and emails if you use gmail) closer to regional advertisers.
Ray, you will still be able to search for bail bondsmen via Google. You just won't get their ads pushed at you
If you see nothing wrong with that, then don't come here to whine and bitch the day they decide to block stuff you personally care about.
Such arrogance, smh
Newspapers have been doing this almost since the invention of advertiser-supported media. Why are you taking umbrage now?
Wrong. Newspapers refusing a specific sponsor are like owners of a website refusing specific types of ads.
Google is the platform, the exchange and the clearinghouse. They're abusing their power to further a social agenda.
Democracy is a good thing, but not in a courtroom.
That's one of the good sides of ISIS. They have an excellent justice system that is not hindered by something as finicky as the will of the citizens living in the area. When they stone liars or throw traitors from the roof of buildings, when they crucify thieves or burn spies alive, they not only remove problems from the equation, they also send a clear message.
Spot on. Just like payday loans, bail bonds are predatory but they're also the last resort for people who are laughed out of banks and credit unions. If they no longer have access to this type of short term credit, where will those people go? No credit cards, no lines of credit, no valuables to pawn - what's left? Nothing legal.
The rich hypocrites who decides for the poor always bring up those shameful annual interest rates or those people who pay loans for years. What they fail to mention is that payday loans have a lower default rate than mortgages.
But let's not bother with facts, let's just accept the dogma cast upon us from the ivory towers of California. Once again Google acts as a vehicle for the shallow social agenda of political correctness of the Silicon Valley elite, sweeping problems under the rug of "someone else fix it". Fuck those arrogant bastards.
The best option right now might be to wait
Maybe it's like in that alleged quote from Henry Ford, maybe we're all "asking for faster horses". If storing electrical power is such a challenge maybe the real solution involves rethinking the whole power ecosystem.
When my house is pumping out 5 kW more than I'm using, then I'm pretty much powering three houses that do not have solar capacity
Your extra 5 kW in the daytime doesn't cover your own needs at night time. That's the weak link I mentioned.
Solar is not the complete answer to the problem. That's like saying: let's use bikes to solve traffic problems in NYC. It's great, 6 months out of 12. It doesn't mean "fuck bikes let's use SUV" it means "the solution is incomplete".