But they can prohibit Microsoft from selling Windows Vista.
How do you imagine thats going to happen ?
1) there are no laws that i know of that would prohibit the selling of an item that is not dangerous in any way based on some abstract ruling
2) they would have to make a precedential law that would prohibit the selling of a specific product, created by this specific company - something that nobody in their right mind would actually support (i hope)
3) even if they did all that - all the members of the EU may choose to follow that directive, nobody can really force them
4) the EC cannot make such a directive pass go and collect 200 all by themselves
the most they can do is propose one like it, and the majority of the members of the EU would have to support it, which they probably wont.
What they can (can they?) do is revoke microsofts patents as a means of covering the fine and make them public domain - something that would actually cause an interesting turn of events.
1 billion worth of patents must cover quite a couple of areas and would allow competitors to legally hack away at microsofts binaries on order to create the documentation themselves.
I'm wondering what they should really be doing, besides forcing Microsoft to stop doing business in member states as long as they remain noncompliant, perhaps.
And thats exactly what this is all about.
They cant really force anybody to stop using microsofts products, and they cant force microsoft to completly stop selling their products.
So they gave microsoft some time to prepare documentation that would be available to competitors. For a fee. With no recommendation to give it away, or how much to charge for it. And to this today - microsoft has not yet complied, and are still working on documentation for an OS that was written a couple of years ago.
Every developer worth their money has pre-project documentation, code documentation, end user documentation (for things such as api's and libraries). This has been a standard in the industry for decades. And - most of windows is documented in such a way if said libraries and api's were ever intended to be used by someone out of microsoft. And yet - the others werent, as i seems.
The inner workings of windows and their internall protocols are a mystery even to them.
Thats the only thing that could justify getting a 300 person team for over a year of time.
AND NOT COMPLETING THE TASK!
This only says about the quality of the code - or the obfuscation that they used to actually throw competitors off track.
I remember when the ruling became a very public thing over here at slashdot. Everyone agreed that it was the only thing that the EC could do, and that decision was just.
And now that the fines accumulated to a spectacular (even for microsoft this is a big bag of money which they will have to explain to their shareholders) 1 billion USD, everyone is beggining to feel sorry for them ?!
Sorry - as far as i know they didnt comply, had well over a years time and are still arguing about their case.
I have no sympathy for them. Not that i ever did - but feel free to point out the weeks spots in my understanding of this case.
that google is a private entity(/corporation/whatever) and has no obligation to promote any site, and has the right to change there rules whenever if they see fit (since your not paying for the pagerank - your not a customer, and thus have no real rights).
Also - as other/.'ers have pointed out - the constitution refers to the goverment stopping free speach - and since google isnt strictly affiliated with uncle sam, nor were they following someone elses orders - this isnt a real case. I just see no merit here - if they dont like it, they should stop relying so desperatly on adsense and their pagerank to make profit. There are plenty of other search engines out there that will gladly take their money for a nice - biased - pagerank, and plenty of sites that would love to get promoted in their search engine (there always are).
Disclaimer - im not a citizen of USA, and may be wrong in uderstanding how your constitution works.
Its only a matter of time. Any day now, the ooozing hot fashion models and guys will crawl into our cubicles and take away what we cherish most: our ketchup stained t-shirts our ethernall sandals our sacred java mugs!
All of our supergeek powers will fade and wither away as we grow more and more popular with "society".
Run while you still can!
Thou it is kind of sad that they got to space before they got here...
As i understand it - thats a bigger challenge. TFA speaks only about touch->image conversion, and i doubt they have anything that can actually mimic any given texture under the surgeons hand. The prosthetics we have now (if you have the cash) are able to react to nerves to some extent - forcing your arm to move, or grab an object. But i think that making a interface that actually lets you feel what the computer is telling you is a different story. And im talking tens of years of development. We are getting into the neuromancer plot here - what if a machine like that got compromised and told you your arm was on fire ? And what if it was hooked up directly into your spine (you had some near fatal injury and was paralized from the waste down) and it managed to convince you that you were.... erm - having a really bad time ?
1) Notice that all of the robots in the videos have an externall power source. Does it crawl "up your's" with a cable attached to it ? This may not be as big a problem with the mentioned pill cameras - since they dont actually move and thus require less power. But here - we have a pretty big cable (compared to what the robots size is anyway). Add to that the power for the light source, camera, and some radio transmitter that can make it usable. Or did i get it wrong and do the pill cams have cables attached to them too, and this isnt a concearn ?
2) look at the shere size of that thing! its huge, and even thou i know they will be mainly working on getting it smaller - how far can they go ? Im mean - we cant combine them out of molecules (yet >:) ), and there are mechanicall parts that will have to be made in order for it to move around. Then they have to be assembled. Adding the camera and light source will make it only bigger.
Not to mention how gross it is - will patients want to resolve to this method ? How will they feel with something going thru their guts ? Im talking stress here, and the added bonus of possibly feeling it inside you. Im not so keen on anatomy, but im pretty sure you can at least feel it entering and exiting your body.
As i understand it - the idea is to build a point to point connection between two boxes, and transfer the key really slowly, so that noone can eavesdrop ? If something can be read, and written - it can be copied. It might be harder using this technology, but as soon as it goes global - and the devices capable of generating a single photon impulse and reading an impulse like that are available (even if for a horrific price) the strategy goes to hell.
If someone is capable of listening on a optic fiber in the present day - and im fairly certain there arent many people like that out there - whats to stop them from eavesdropping on a fiber such as this ?
To be honest - im getting the idea this is kind of pointless.
But i must say that being able to transmitt and read one photon at a time gives spectacular performance if you can controll the baud rate better (and if you can filter out and read a single photon - id say that you can). I see nice perspectives for this technology in the future - maybe we will be able to fully use the optic fibers we already have (or get new ones, fazillions times faster). Using this for cryptology - if you can even call it that - in this case seems just absurd.
Wait... Ive got it! Here is the message in question (before we burn all of the cache engines available): List: linux-kernel Subject: Re: Moving to BK From: Linus Torvalds Date: 2006-04-01 4:30:40 Message-ID: Pine.LNX.4.64.0603312030060.27203 () g5 ! osdl ! org [Download message RAW]
On Fri, 31 Mar 2006, David S. Miller wrote: > > April 1st is upon us again.
I really like the new slashdot look. "OMG!!! Ponies!!!"
I hope they keep it after Apr 1st.
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On Fri, 31 Mar 2006 20:30:40 -0800 (PST) Linus Torvalds wrote:
> > > On Fri, 31 Mar 2006, David S. Miller wrote: > > > > April 1st is upon us again. > > I really like the new slashdot look. "OMG!!! Ponies!!!"
Goes with the sandals and pony tails.
> I hope they keep it after Apr 1st.
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Now, everybody hit "Refresh" a couple of times, and lets burn slashdot to the ground! MUAHAHAHAHAR*cough*cough*HARHAR!
A Denial of Service vulnerability exists in the parsing of ANI files. A remote user can cause the target user's system to hang or crash. A remote user can create a specially crafted Windows animated cursor file (ANI file) that, when loaded by the target user, will cause the target system to crash. The malicious file can be loaded via HTML, for example.
Risk: LOW
link
Its also easy to notice that most of the unix/linux (say, why not throw a few others in that bunch as well, huh ?) are marked as high risk.
Is there any file format that you cant infect or use to otherwise totally break/hang the system on windows ?
This is all nice, but unfortunatly the linux users out there are left out of the fun.
No such thing as google earth for linux:(
Its just strange to me that a company that bases most of its products on oss (servers and what not) doesnt have a version of an application that works on the second (maybe third if you count the mac's) most used desktop os on the planet.
I seem to remember that one of google's assets is that its products work on most operating systems
(just the task of making ajax applications such as gmail is a lot of work).
Does anyone here know of a replacement, maybe something that uses some hidden google api - that would allow me to play around with this toy ?
Makes me wonder why arend there maps of the old continent ? And why are the sattelite images getting in fact worse instead of better ? (the images of my country lost about two zoom levels)...
Is google even going to be increasing those images or will they be dropping the quality of the 'less interesting' spots as time passes...
Its just too bad - i would love to see what my rooftop looks like.
So is ther a e-mail address i can send my complains too or something ?
Slashdot Mirror
When those links turn the server into a smoking pile of plastic, here is a google video of it in action: http://video.google.com/videoplay?docid=9117167457 978282229
YESYESYES!
Gah, goddamnit!
But they can prohibit Microsoft from selling Windows Vista.
How do you imagine thats going to happen ?
1) there are no laws that i know of that would prohibit the selling of an item that is not dangerous in any way based on some abstract ruling
2) they would have to make a precedential law that would prohibit the selling of a specific product, created by this specific company - something that nobody in their right mind would actually support (i hope)
3) even if they did all that - all the members of the EU may choose to follow that directive, nobody can really force them
4) the EC cannot make such a directive pass go and collect 200 all by themselves
the most they can do is propose one like it, and the majority of the members of the EU would have to support it, which they probably wont.
What they can (can they?) do is revoke microsofts patents as a means of covering the fine and make them public domain - something that would actually cause an interesting turn of events.
1 billion worth of patents must cover quite a couple of areas and would allow competitors to legally hack away at microsofts binaries on order to create the documentation themselves.
I'm wondering what they should really be doing, besides forcing Microsoft to stop doing business in member states as long as they remain noncompliant, perhaps.
And thats exactly what this is all about.
They cant really force anybody to stop using microsofts products, and they cant force microsoft to completly stop selling their products.
So they gave microsoft some time to prepare documentation that would be available to competitors. For a fee. With no recommendation to give it away, or how much to charge for it. And to this today - microsoft has not yet complied, and are still working on documentation for an OS that was written a couple of years ago.
Every developer worth their money has pre-project documentation, code documentation, end user documentation (for things such as api's and libraries). This has been a standard in the industry for decades. And - most of windows is documented in such a way if said libraries and api's were ever intended to be used by someone out of microsoft. And yet - the others werent, as i seems.
The inner workings of windows and their internall protocols are a mystery even to them.
Thats the only thing that could justify getting a 300 person team for over a year of time.
AND NOT COMPLETING THE TASK!
This only says about the quality of the code - or the obfuscation that they used to actually throw competitors off track.
I remember when the ruling became a very public thing over here at slashdot. Everyone agreed that it was the only thing that the EC could do, and that decision was just.
And now that the fines accumulated to a spectacular (even for microsoft this is a big bag of money which they will have to explain to their shareholders) 1 billion USD, everyone is beggining to feel sorry for them ?!
Sorry - as far as i know they didnt comply, had well over a years time and are still arguing about their case.
I have no sympathy for them. Not that i ever did - but feel free to point out the weeks spots in my understanding of this case.
Disclamer: i am a linux user.
that google is a private entity(/corporation/whatever) and has no obligation to promote any site, and has the right to change there rules whenever if they see fit (since your not paying for the pagerank - your not a customer, and thus have no real rights).
/.'ers have pointed out - the constitution refers to the goverment stopping free speach - and since google isnt strictly affiliated with uncle sam, nor were they following someone elses orders - this isnt a real case.
Also - as other
I just see no merit here - if they dont like it, they should stop relying so desperatly on adsense and their pagerank to make profit.
There are plenty of other search engines out there that will gladly take their money for a nice - biased - pagerank, and plenty of sites that would love to get promoted in their search engine (there always are).
Disclaimer - im not a citizen of USA, and may be wrong in uderstanding how your constitution works.
Its only a matter of time.
Any day now, the ooozing hot fashion models and guys will crawl into our cubicles and take away what we cherish most:
our ketchup stained t-shirts
our ethernall sandals
our sacred java mugs!
All of our supergeek powers will fade and wither away as we grow more and more popular with "society".
Run while you still can!
Thou it is kind of sad that they got to space before they got here...
As i understand it - thats a bigger challenge. .... erm - having a really bad time ?
TFA speaks only about touch->image conversion, and i doubt they have anything that can actually mimic any given texture under the surgeons hand.
The prosthetics we have now (if you have the cash) are able to react to nerves to some extent - forcing your arm to move, or grab an object.
But i think that making a interface that actually lets you feel what the computer is telling you is a different story.
And im talking tens of years of development.
We are getting into the neuromancer plot here - what if a machine like that got compromised and told you your arm was on fire ?
And what if it was hooked up directly into your spine (you had some near fatal injury and was paralized from the waste down) and it managed to convince you that you were
1) Notice that all of the robots in the videos have an externall power source.
Does it crawl "up your's" with a cable attached to it ?
This may not be as big a problem with the mentioned pill cameras - since they dont actually move and thus require less power.
But here - we have a pretty big cable (compared to what the robots size is anyway).
Add to that the power for the light source, camera, and some radio transmitter that can make it usable.
Or did i get it wrong and do the pill cams have cables attached to them too, and this isnt a concearn ?
2) look at the shere size of that thing!
its huge, and even thou i know they will be mainly working on getting it smaller - how far can they go ?
Im mean - we cant combine them out of molecules (yet >:) ), and there are mechanicall parts that will have to be made in order for it to move around. Then they have to be assembled.
Adding the camera and light source will make it only bigger.
Not to mention how gross it is - will patients want to resolve to this method ?
How will they feel with something going thru their guts ?
Im talking stress here, and the added bonus of possibly feeling it inside you.
Im not so keen on anatomy, but im pretty sure you can at least feel it entering and exiting your body.
As i understand it - the idea is to build a point to point connection between two boxes, and transfer the key really slowly, so that noone can eavesdrop ?
If something can be read, and written - it can be copied. It might be harder using this technology, but as soon as it goes global - and the devices capable of generating a single photon impulse and reading an impulse like that are available (even if for a horrific price) the strategy goes to hell.
If someone is capable of listening on a optic fiber in the present day - and im fairly certain there arent many people like that out there - whats to stop them from eavesdropping on a fiber such as this ?
To be honest - im getting the idea this is kind of pointless.
But i must say that being able to transmitt and read one photon at a time gives spectacular performance if you can controll the baud rate better (and if you can filter out and read a single photon - id say that you can).
I see nice perspectives for this technology in the future - maybe we will be able to fully use the optic fibers we already have (or get new ones, fazillions times faster).
Using this for cryptology - if you can even call it that - in this case seems just absurd.
Wait...
Ive got it!
Here is the message in question (before we burn all of the cache engines available):
List: linux-kernel
Subject: Re: Moving to BK
From: Linus Torvalds
Date: 2006-04-01 4:30:40
Message-ID: Pine.LNX.4.64.0603312030060.27203 () g5 ! osdl ! org
[Download message RAW]
On Fri, 31 Mar 2006, David S. Miller wrote:
>
> April 1st is upon us again.
I really like the new slashdot look. "OMG!!! Ponies!!!"
I hope they keep it after Apr 1st.
Linus
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From: "Randy.Dunlap"
Date: 2006-04-01 6:42:28
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On Fri, 31 Mar 2006 20:30:40 -0800 (PST) Linus Torvalds wrote:
>
>
> On Fri, 31 Mar 2006, David S. Miller wrote:
> >
> > April 1st is upon us again.
>
> I really like the new slashdot look. "OMG!!! Ponies!!!"
Goes with the sandals and pony tails.
> I hope they keep it after Apr 1st.
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Now, everybody hit "Refresh" a couple of times, and lets burn slashdot to the ground!
MUAHAHAHAHAR*cough*cough*HARHAR!
I mean c'mon, like this one:
Windows:
A Denial of Service vulnerability exists in the parsing of ANI files. A remote user can cause the target user's system to hang or crash. A remote user can create a specially crafted Windows animated cursor file (ANI file) that, when loaded by the target user, will cause the target system to crash. The malicious file can be loaded via HTML, for example.
Risk: LOW
link
Its also easy to notice that most of the unix/linux (say, why not throw a few others in that bunch as well, huh ?) are marked as high risk.
Is there any file format that you cant infect or use to otherwise totally break/hang the system on windows ?
TXT files dont count.
FLAME OFF!
K. that was an unfortunate statement.
Lets by all means count the macs - since afaik they are also excluded out of the earth madness.
This is all nice, but unfortunatly the linux users out there are left out of the fun. :(
;)
No such thing as google earth for linux
Its just strange to me that a company that bases most of its products on oss (servers and what not) doesnt have a version of an application that works on the second (maybe third if you count the mac's) most used desktop os on the planet.
I seem to remember that one of google's assets is that its products work on most operating systems (just the task of making ajax applications such as gmail is a lot of work).
Does anyone here know of a replacement, maybe something that uses some hidden google api - that would allow me to play around with this toy ?
How will i ever know if santa is close ?
The masterplan:
1) make loads of toys
2) give them all away
3) ???
4) Profit!!!
So... it runs on Linux... But what doesn't it do ?
Makes me wonder why arend there maps of the old continent ? And why are the sattelite images getting in fact worse instead of better ? (the images of my country lost about two zoom levels)... Is google even going to be increasing those images or will they be dropping the quality of the 'less interesting' spots as time passes... Its just too bad - i would love to see what my rooftop looks like. So is ther a e-mail address i can send my complains too or something ?