I can't wait till the day I can order a roll of duct tape, some tampons for my lady, vegan food, a button up shirt and some toilet paper. dog food, Will that day ever come?
Sure it is a moral issue but it is a leap of faith to decide that one is in the moral high ground. what right do we have to be so proud of our culture?
I can't stress enough that prices need to better reflect the medium.Must I also remind you that most of the musicians that are concerned with piracy are already millionares. I am lucky to even be able to do it by Hobby. Because if I lived in the third world I wouldn't probably have a computer... And if someone in the third world owned a computer they would be wealthy enough to buy all the media they want but what about the other large portion that gets nothing. Now with 250 dollor computers, open source OS's and some share file programs more of the populations of the world can have the media from the 1st world countries. 1st world is were all the people live who just by a strike of luck were born there. As long as countries leach off of countries like africa because of loans that will never go away and its not just africa (militarization of south america in the name of the drug war, but really just to opress working class peoples) Modern criminalogy can kiss my derriere. As long as capitalism depends on exploitation of the less fortunate then I cannot support the status quoe.
If machintosh were to own as much as the market as microsoft and then their product went down in quality and another alternative that was better came along I'd be on it. Proprietary software has added advantages over freeware and I assure you if I had the money to gamble on apple right now I surely would because I see a chance for some people to get rich. One of the items on my list for musical equipment is a mac. I'll pay for it in cold hard cash. If I where to buy every quientessential album of my tastes that would certainly be a hell of as bill but one I could afford. But every one of those musicians are influinced by 20 or more musicians. Now I understand there is some over lapping. But the number times lets say 10 dollors and we are talking 50 years to collect at my wages plus add all the new music that comes out that I don't want to stop listening to. Now someone might say to me what if someone were to copy your soungs and make a lot of money off of it, what does that make you think about copyrights now? I'd say Copy rights should only protect those from others profiting off of your work they should only protect the little guy. Not punish those for potential profit lost. I mean how much does it cost to transfer one song in electricity and hardware use. Are we talking 50 cents or 10 cents or a fraction of a cent. So we should go after people who actualy stole something where the base cost of the item is larger then just cents sticker price so small. Trading Mp3's is like stealing gum balls from the brocks candy bin taking a bit more than the 25 cents worth that you dropped in the tin bucket. I mean this isn't a cd truck in a armed robbery. once again I can't stress enough that prices need to better reflect the medium. What if the industry didn't try to make a few musicians make them a lot of money but supported a lot of muscians making them a little bit of money each? with the greater consumption of music because of larger hard drives faster internet backed by marketing diversity, what if record companies were able to make the same amount they were making now? Recording has gotten cheaper. I do not believe this new generation of youth are going to be so stupid that they won't be able to get into a hell of a lot more music if the opporutunity presents itself affordably. When I was in high school I proboly bought maybe lets say 50 cd's. Now imagine how much music I could buy for the same amount of money if tracks were even less than 99 cents a soung. At 99 cents a song at 15 songs an album that is the same amount of money as buying an album. It seems the corporations have taken all the cost benefit of the internet and pocketed it. Just think of what it would do to not only the markets if they gave part of that cost benifit to consumers. It would have a more drastic effect on culture than the present state. And the pop world wouldn't seem like a dry and barren place because the internet users would decide who's pop worthy,
By the shear numbers of dl's.
Maybe your right but I was talking about the creative potential of a society who treats copyright like it were birth right. Also regardless of wether you believe in piracy or not I still think if the prices better reflected the medium people wouldn't pirate as much...;
I hope your being sarcastic. What child has ten of thousands of dollors? If your not I am, "wooh hooh, I just love the empire!" Now if someone were to profit off of copying monitarily then we would have a lawsuit. There are many more sides to the dice than just one. Only fat pig wants all the money...
If you base your judgements on a post based on spelling and grammer read no further.I think that to declare absulutes in the buisness world is to commit conceptial suicide. Punishing the average Joe for copyrights is an infringement on the creative potential of a society. Piracy can be profited off of because it fuels innovation. Just think of Japan an magma. The underground steals the charactors. whenever the underground comes up with a good idea the industry copies and markets the idea. The underground cannot call foul because the charactors and type castes are copyrighted and in court it would go to the corporations advantage. Now apply this to music. I am a guitarist singer song writer. Musicians learn from listening to other musicians. Now I have very little extra cash and if I ever do I want to buy music equipment. I think it is ironic that young people don't have money but yet they need all the stimulas they can get. I tend to agree with the guy who said that when you have a family and a full time job the prospect of looking for pirated programs goes down. We all know the time that can be consumed pirating also piracy tends to be hibradized with porn. Do you think you'll want little Johny looking at the porn or porn text while your looking for pirated programs. Then you'll have to hide your activities. Which further complicates things. I think that people become more responsible with life experiances. Certainly not everyone but possibly enough people to make it reasonable. Imagine the long term marketing stradegy. I think punishing the consumer for piracy is inforcing a economic cast system where only those who can afford media (education) can get exposed to it. Copyrights should only be inforced where profits are being made not where profits are being lost. Because when it comes to piracy I do not believe a file lost is a profit lost. I do not have the fifteen dollors for a Cd so if I steal a file how is it that a profit is lost I never had the money to give in the first place. Now if you tell me I should just live without music if I don't have the money well to me thats like saying I shouldn't play music either. The problem with all this is that the old world model markets a formula and a reducing the output to a few pop figures doesn't fit the new medium. I think we need to not assume the masses are destined to be stupid even if it is true, selfullfilling prophisy is all to powerful. I think with the new medium and the ability to store mass amounts of music the record companies should market diversity of musical styles to as many types of people as possible, assume people are smart anough to cosume more music. Also if we look at the rulz of supply and demand music prices over the internet are proboly still too high. Because with more storage and the relitive cheapness of copying supply is high. Now for people to fill their harddrives, prices need to reflect the cost of supply. To copy a file takes a mater of seconds. To produce and burn a cd takes more time therefore is more expensive, Untill some of the cost benifit of the medium is given to the consumer we will never see the full potential of the medium. We need younger executives whom a greater part of there life was digitized then these pop dinasours. I hope that macintosh's commitment to innovation with their own products is in their intentions with the music industry. I hope they have a game plan on how best to control piracy without illiminating it all together. And if imploying intell and giving a few free versions away will help them I'm all about it. Piracy for the poor! I also believe when the price reflects the cheapness of the medium people wil pirate less.
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I can't wait till the day I can order a roll of duct tape, some tampons for my lady, vegan food, a button up shirt and some toilet paper. dog food, Will that day ever come?
Imagine the crazy ass pranks the smart class clown could do...
Sure it is a moral issue but it is a leap of faith to decide that one is in the moral high ground. what right do we have to be so proud of our culture?
I can't stress enough that prices need to better reflect the medium.Must I also remind you that most of the musicians that are concerned with piracy are already millionares. I am lucky to even be able to do it by Hobby. Because if I lived in the third world I wouldn't probably have a computer... And if someone in the third world owned a computer they would be wealthy enough to buy all the media they want but what about the other large portion that gets nothing. Now with 250 dollor computers, open source OS's and some share file programs more of the populations of the world can have the media from the 1st world countries. 1st world is were all the people live who just by a strike of luck were born there. As long as countries leach off of countries like africa because of loans that will never go away and its not just africa (militarization of south america in the name of the drug war, but really just to opress working class peoples) Modern criminalogy can kiss my derriere. As long as capitalism depends on exploitation of the less fortunate then I cannot support the status quoe. If machintosh were to own as much as the market as microsoft and then their product went down in quality and another alternative that was better came along I'd be on it. Proprietary software has added advantages over freeware and I assure you if I had the money to gamble on apple right now I surely would because I see a chance for some people to get rich. One of the items on my list for musical equipment is a mac. I'll pay for it in cold hard cash. If I where to buy every quientessential album of my tastes that would certainly be a hell of as bill but one I could afford. But every one of those musicians are influinced by 20 or more musicians. Now I understand there is some over lapping. But the number times lets say 10 dollors and we are talking 50 years to collect at my wages plus add all the new music that comes out that I don't want to stop listening to. Now someone might say to me what if someone were to copy your soungs and make a lot of money off of it, what does that make you think about copyrights now? I'd say Copy rights should only protect those from others profiting off of your work they should only protect the little guy. Not punish those for potential profit lost. I mean how much does it cost to transfer one song in electricity and hardware use. Are we talking 50 cents or 10 cents or a fraction of a cent. So we should go after people who actualy stole something where the base cost of the item is larger then just cents sticker price so small. Trading Mp3's is like stealing gum balls from the brocks candy bin taking a bit more than the 25 cents worth that you dropped in the tin bucket. I mean this isn't a cd truck in a armed robbery. once again I can't stress enough that prices need to better reflect the medium. What if the industry didn't try to make a few musicians make them a lot of money but supported a lot of muscians making them a little bit of money each? with the greater consumption of music because of larger hard drives faster internet backed by marketing diversity, what if record companies were able to make the same amount they were making now? Recording has gotten cheaper. I do not believe this new generation of youth are going to be so stupid that they won't be able to get into a hell of a lot more music if the opporutunity presents itself affordably. When I was in high school I proboly bought maybe lets say 50 cd's. Now imagine how much music I could buy for the same amount of money if tracks were even less than 99 cents a soung. At 99 cents a song at 15 songs an album that is the same amount of money as buying an album. It seems the corporations have taken all the cost benefit of the internet and pocketed it. Just think of what it would do to not only the markets if they gave part of that cost benifit to consumers. It would have a more drastic effect on culture than the present state. And the pop world wouldn't seem like a dry and barren place because the internet users would decide who's pop worthy, By the shear numbers of dl's.
Maybe your right but I was talking about the creative potential of a society who treats copyright like it were birth right. Also regardless of wether you believe in piracy or not I still think if the prices better reflected the medium people wouldn't pirate as much...;
I hope your being sarcastic. What child has ten of thousands of dollors? If your not I am, "wooh hooh, I just love the empire!" Now if someone were to profit off of copying monitarily then we would have a lawsuit. There are many more sides to the dice than just one. Only fat pig wants all the money...
If you base your judgements on a post based on spelling and grammer read no further.I think that to declare absulutes in the buisness world is to commit conceptial suicide. Punishing the average Joe for copyrights is an infringement on the creative potential of a society. Piracy can be profited off of because it fuels innovation. Just think of Japan an magma. The underground steals the charactors. whenever the underground comes up with a good idea the industry copies and markets the idea. The underground cannot call foul because the charactors and type castes are copyrighted and in court it would go to the corporations advantage. Now apply this to music. I am a guitarist singer song writer. Musicians learn from listening to other musicians. Now I have very little extra cash and if I ever do I want to buy music equipment. I think it is ironic that young people don't have money but yet they need all the stimulas they can get. I tend to agree with the guy who said that when you have a family and a full time job the prospect of looking for pirated programs goes down. We all know the time that can be consumed pirating also piracy tends to be hibradized with porn. Do you think you'll want little Johny looking at the porn or porn text while your looking for pirated programs. Then you'll have to hide your activities. Which further complicates things. I think that people become more responsible with life experiances. Certainly not everyone but possibly enough people to make it reasonable. Imagine the long term marketing stradegy. I think punishing the consumer for piracy is inforcing a economic cast system where only those who can afford media (education) can get exposed to it. Copyrights should only be inforced where profits are being made not where profits are being lost. Because when it comes to piracy I do not believe a file lost is a profit lost. I do not have the fifteen dollors for a Cd so if I steal a file how is it that a profit is lost I never had the money to give in the first place. Now if you tell me I should just live without music if I don't have the money well to me thats like saying I shouldn't play music either. The problem with all this is that the old world model markets a formula and a reducing the output to a few pop figures doesn't fit the new medium. I think we need to not assume the masses are destined to be stupid even if it is true, selfullfilling prophisy is all to powerful. I think with the new medium and the ability to store mass amounts of music the record companies should market diversity of musical styles to as many types of people as possible, assume people are smart anough to cosume more music. Also if we look at the rulz of supply and demand music prices over the internet are proboly still too high. Because with more storage and the relitive cheapness of copying supply is high. Now for people to fill their harddrives, prices need to reflect the cost of supply. To copy a file takes a mater of seconds. To produce and burn a cd takes more time therefore is more expensive, Untill some of the cost benifit of the medium is given to the consumer we will never see the full potential of the medium. We need younger executives whom a greater part of there life was digitized then these pop dinasours. I hope that macintosh's commitment to innovation with their own products is in their intentions with the music industry. I hope they have a game plan on how best to control piracy without illiminating it all together. And if imploying intell and giving a few free versions away will help them I'm all about it. Piracy for the poor! I also believe when the price reflects the cheapness of the medium people wil pirate less. Beautiful leper