Well if this ever comes to market it will be fun. Teenagers of the (hopefully not too distant) future will be able to swap a single disk containing a library of the entire worlds recorded music, maybe even encoded in FLAC to boot !
I can just see all the MAFIAA lawyers having fits of apoplexy now:)
They'll add a $100,000,000 charge to fund the artists to each blank disk
If a syadmin is abusing their position of power then they need to be removed. That's it. There's no petty revenge or "blowback" to consider.
It's no different to other jobs where people hold a position of power (e.g., police officer, principal, medical doctor, judge, etc). We expect and demand that those people behave professionally and appropriately at all times (even when they don't like you). Just because a computer is involved doesn't excuse a system administrator from being held to the same professional standards.
Agree 100%, but that doesn't make the point about don't make your sysadmin hate you. It would not be a good idea to make a police officer, principal, medical doctor, or judge hate you. Sure their professional ethics mean that they should put this to one side when dealing with you, and they could get in trouble if they didn't... but I wouldn't go picking a fight with one just in case
Microsoft has had the benefit of being the single controller of the.NET framework whilst Java has been victim of design by committee a lot of the time.
True, but actually some of the "worst offenders" pre-dated the committee - like the UnsuppotredOperationException thrown from read-only collections (there should have been a ReadOnlyCollection interface with the Collection interface inheriting from that) and the whole Date, Calendar API which is dire
However, I mostly code in C#.NET and I dabble in Java in my spare time to model financial markets. What I have found is that C# has some powerful features that other languages do not have. This allows the.NET framework to be a little more robust than Java. Also my opinion is that C# and.NET creates a more syntactically elegant and coder friendly experience whereas Java is good, but not as good as.NET.
In closing, C#.NET > Java.
Please address.NET hate-responses to/dev/null
I'm not saying its the case here, but often the best framework is the one you know best. Of course that is true for you personally, but its sometimes hard to distinguish "I'm not sure how to do it with that API" to "that API is not as clear as the one I know well".
In this case I think that is a very good question. If they put up a reward for a tenth of what they've paid on guarding him, send posters round the area, then he would not get far if he got out. Its not like he's a Muslim terrorist who will exit in a burka and plant bombs when he gets out.
Thanks for the warning. Being in the same category as Python, Whitespace and Brainfuck makes this language one to avoid.
Funny I must be the only person with moderate feelings about Python. I think its OK, but prefer static typing for anything past prototyping and indent is a bit of a nuisence
Alternatively you could just use the Python OpenGL bindings (r pick your favourite language). From the project home page I can't see any reason why this language is better than many existing, stable, and optimised languages for accessing OpenGL.
Absolutely. There are historical precedents. Bell labs did things as diverse as writing Unix, inventing the transistor, and the construction of DNA machines.
Honour killing is not mentioned anywhere in Islam, in fact it is forbidden. It's a cultural issue unfortunatelly.
I challange you to find where it is endorsed in Islam... you won't, because it's not there.
I'll rise to the challenge:
Quran- 4:15 “If any of your women are guilty of lewdness, take the evidence of four (reliable) witness from amongst you against them; if they testify, confine them to houses until death do claim them. Or God ordain for them some (other) way.”
Sahi Bukhari: 8:6814:
Narrated Jabir bin Abdullah al-Ansari: “A man from the tribe of Bani Aslam came to Allah’s Messenger [Muhammad] and informed him that he had committed illegal sexual intercourse; and he bore witness four times against himself. Allah’s Messenger ordered him to be stoned to death as he was a married person.”
Sahi Muslim No. 4206:
“A woman came to the prophet and asked for purification by seeking punishment. He told her to go away and seek God’s forgiveness. She persisted four times and admitted she was pregnant. He told her to wait until she had given birth. Then he said that the Muslim community should wait until she had weaned her child. When the day arrived for the child to take solid food, Muhammad handed the child over to the community. And when he had given command over her and she was put in a hole up to her breast, he ordered the people to stone her. Khalid b. al-Walid came forward with a stone which he threw at her head, and when the blood spurted on her face he cursed her.”
Sahih Al-Bukhari Vol 2. pg 1009; and Sahih Muslim Vol 2. pg 65:
Hadhrat Abdullah ibne Abbaas (Radiallahu Anhu) narrates the lecture that Hadhrat Umar (Radiallaahu Anhu) delivered whilst sitting on the pulpit of Rasulullah (Sallallaahu Alayhi Wa Sallam). Hadhrat Umar (Radiallahu Anhu) said, "Verily, Allah sent Muhammad (Sallallaahu Alayhi Wa Sallam) with the truth, and revealed the Quran upon him. The verse regarding the stoning of the adulterer/ess was from amongst the verse revealed (in the Quraan). We read it, secured it and understood it. Rasulullah (Sallallaahu Alayhi Wa Sallam) stoned and we stoned after him. I fear that with the passage of time a person might say, ‘We do not find mention of stoning in the Book of Allah and thereby go astray by leaving out an obligation revealed by Allah. Verily, the stoning of a adulterer/ress is found in the Quraan and is the truth, if the witnesses are met or there is a pregnancy or confession."
What makes you think Lincoln said "Fourscore and seven years ago our fathers brought forth on this continent a new country, dedicated to the proposition that all men are made equal, and conceived in liberty"? Can't you quote correctly?
The summary "By Algorithm, Not Human Review" implies that the algorithm is somehow evaluating pictures. In fact from TFA it is clear all it is doing is looking for copes of known existing images by hash-code. If it were examining images I would be worried about false positives, but as it just looks for know child porn I cannot see any down-side - this is a good move.
So they store CP and search for CP at the same time? Why is that good?
I dont see how you are any better than they are with regards to tolerance!
Because I don't advocate subduing those of other faiths, killing people who change faith, killing relatives for honour, etc.
Of course! You only condemn EVERYBODY following that faith. Sure u r totally not intolerant!
Of course I condemn everybody following a faith that calls for the subjugation and murder of others. I acknowledge that there may be some nominal Muslims who only call themselves that because of the death penalty for leaving, and I don't condemn these.
Absolutely, honour killings count as normal behaviour in Islamic countries. I was just refuting the assertion that people carried out "honour killings" because they came from backward countries rather than because they were following the teachings of Islam
He said "patriarchal countries" shit head not "backward".
OK, so you don't consider highly patriarchal countries to be backward. I do.
Just because a bunch of fucked up men twist around their religion, doesnt mean the entire population following it should be condemned nor the religion be disgraced!
Yes this is exactly what I said about their being some Hindus and Sikhs. I could also add Christians. However Islam is unique in that it is a command of the religion:
Sahi Muslim No. 4206:
“A woman came to the prophet and asked for purification by seeking punishment. He told her to go away and seek God’s forgiveness. She persisted four times and admitted she was pregnant. He told her to wait until she had given birth. Then he said that the Muslim community should wait until she had weaned her child. When the day arrived for the child to take solid food, Muhammad handed the child over to the community. And when he had given command over her and she was put in a hole up to her breast, he ordered the people to stone her. Khalid b. al-Walid came forward with a stone which he threw at her head, and when the blood spurted on her face he cursed her.”
I dont see how you are any better than they are with regards to tolerance!
Because I don't advocate subduing those of other faiths, killing people who change faith, killing relatives for honour, etc.
The summary "By Algorithm, Not Human Review" implies that the algorithm is somehow evaluating pictures. In fact from TFA it is clear all it is doing is looking for copes of known existing images by hash-code. If it were examining images I would be worried about false positives, but as it just looks for know child porn I cannot see any down-side - this is a good move.
Could it be that the reason why the article is able to point out that they are carried out in western societies, is because;
1) Those western societies are unfamiliar with the practice, and thus find it abhorant enough to make it to the news
2) Said western societies actually have a news organisation to report these matters, instead of them taking place in some backwaters hill village in the middle of nowhere.
You will probably find just as many honour killings occur in the original countries too.
Absolutely, honour killings count as normal behaviour in Islamic countries. I was just refuting the assertion that people carried out "honour killings" because they came from backward countries rather than because they were following the teachings of Islam
I'd say a good number of the Islamic, Hindu and Sihk honor killings are due to the practitioners living in hugely patriarchal countries, the religion came second.. it would be like looking at the southern US and saying that all Christians are obviously end of times gun nuts.
You'd be wrong, check the linked article it is frequently carried out second and third generation Islamic immigrants in Western countries.
Although Sikhs and Hindus do sometimes commit such murders, honor killings, both worldwide and in the West, are mainly Muslim-on-Muslim crimes. In this study, worldwide, 91 percent of perpetrators were Muslims.
So, yes there are some evil Hindu and Sikhs, but it is not entrenched as a specific commandment in the religion like in Islam
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Well if this ever comes to market it will be fun. Teenagers of the (hopefully not too distant) future will be able to swap a single disk containing a library of the entire worlds recorded music, maybe even encoded in FLAC to boot !
I can just see all the MAFIAA lawyers having fits of apoplexy now :)
They'll add a $100,000,000 charge to fund the artists to each blank disk
Now our politicians and bankers can leave even more customer information on a train.
... I want one!
If you are that paranoid study the source code then recompile
If a syadmin is abusing their position of power then they need to be removed. That's it. There's no petty revenge or "blowback" to consider.
It's no different to other jobs where people hold a position of power (e.g., police officer, principal, medical doctor, judge, etc). We expect and demand that those people behave professionally and appropriately at all times (even when they don't like you). Just because a computer is involved doesn't excuse a system administrator from being held to the same professional standards.
Agree 100%, but that doesn't make the point about don't make your sysadmin hate you. It would not be a good idea to make a police officer, principal, medical doctor, or judge hate you. Sure their professional ethics mean that they should put this to one side when dealing with you, and they could get in trouble if they didn't ... but I wouldn't go picking a fight with one just in case
What an appalling post to have positive moderation.
He's a Muslim who's annoyed that I didn't fall for his Taqiyya and met his "false challenge"..
Microsoft has had the benefit of being the single controller of the .NET framework whilst Java has been victim of design by committee a lot of the time.
True, but actually some of the "worst offenders" pre-dated the committee - like the UnsuppotredOperationException thrown from read-only collections (there should have been a ReadOnlyCollection interface with the Collection interface inheriting from that) and the whole Date, Calendar API which is dire
However, I mostly code in C# .NET and I dabble in Java in my spare time to model financial markets. What I have found is that C# has some powerful features that other languages do not have. This allows the .NET framework to be a little more robust than Java. Also my opinion is that C# and .NET creates a more syntactically elegant and coder friendly experience whereas Java is good, but not as good as .NET.
In closing, C# .NET > Java.
Please address .NET hate-responses to /dev/null
I'm not saying its the case here, but often the best framework is the one you know best. Of course that is true for you personally, but its sometimes hard to distinguish "I'm not sure how to do it with that API" to "that API is not as clear as the one I know well".
Why bother guarding the embassy?
In this case I think that is a very good question. If they put up a reward for a tenth of what they've paid on guarding him, send posters round the area, then he would not get far if he got out. Its not like he's a Muslim terrorist who will exit in a burka and plant bombs when he gets out.
Julian has..... a SAD lamp,
A SAD lamp for a sad lump.
... until 2050 — long enough for a couple of generations of programmers to come and go.
By their short lives I imagine that they must make them work in a high-radiation area.
Thanks for the warning. Being in the same category as Python, Whitespace and Brainfuck makes this language one to avoid.
Funny I must be the only person with moderate feelings about Python. I think its OK, but prefer static typing for anything past prototyping and indent is a bit of a nuisence
Alternatively you could just use the Python OpenGL bindings (r pick your favourite language). From the project home page I can't see any reason why this language is better than many existing, stable, and optimised languages for accessing OpenGL.
Absolutely. There are historical precedents. Bell labs did things as diverse as writing Unix, inventing the transistor, and the construction of DNA machines.
Honour killing is not mentioned anywhere in Islam, in fact it is forbidden. It's a cultural issue unfortunatelly. I challange you to find where it is endorsed in Islam... you won't, because it's not there.
I'll rise to the challenge:
Quran- 4:15
“If any of your women are guilty of lewdness, take the evidence of four (reliable) witness from amongst you against them; if they testify, confine them to houses until death do claim them. Or God ordain for them some (other) way.”
Sahi Bukhari: 8:6814:
Narrated Jabir bin Abdullah al-Ansari: “A man from the tribe of Bani Aslam came to Allah’s Messenger [Muhammad] and informed him that he had committed illegal sexual intercourse; and he bore witness four times against himself. Allah’s Messenger ordered him to be stoned to death as he was a married person.”
Sahi Muslim No. 4206:
“A woman came to the prophet and asked for purification by seeking punishment. He told her to go away and seek God’s forgiveness. She persisted four times and admitted she was pregnant. He told her to wait until she had given birth. Then he said that the Muslim community should wait until she had weaned her child. When the day arrived for the child to take solid food, Muhammad handed the child over to the community. And when he had given command over her and she was put in a hole up to her breast, he ordered the people to stone her. Khalid b. al-Walid came forward with a stone which he threw at her head, and when the blood spurted on her face he cursed her.”
Sahih Al-Bukhari Vol 2. pg 1009; and Sahih Muslim Vol 2. pg 65:
Hadhrat Abdullah ibne Abbaas (Radiallahu Anhu) narrates the lecture that Hadhrat Umar (Radiallaahu Anhu) delivered whilst sitting on the pulpit of Rasulullah (Sallallaahu Alayhi Wa Sallam). Hadhrat Umar (Radiallahu Anhu) said, "Verily, Allah sent Muhammad (Sallallaahu Alayhi Wa Sallam) with the truth, and revealed the Quran upon him. The verse regarding the stoning of the adulterer/ess was from amongst the verse revealed (in the Quraan). We read it, secured it and understood it. Rasulullah (Sallallaahu Alayhi Wa Sallam) stoned and we stoned after him. I fear that with the passage of time a person might say, ‘We do not find mention of stoning in the Book of Allah and thereby go astray by leaving out an obligation revealed by Allah. Verily, the stoning of a adulterer/ress is found in the Quraan and is the truth, if the witnesses are met or there is a pregnancy or confession."
What makes you think Lincoln said "Fourscore and seven years ago our fathers brought forth on this continent a new country, dedicated to the proposition that all men are made equal, and conceived in liberty"? Can't you quote correctly?
The summary "By Algorithm, Not Human Review" implies that the algorithm is somehow evaluating pictures. In fact from TFA it is clear all it is doing is looking for copes of known existing images by hash-code. If it were examining images I would be worried about false positives, but as it just looks for know child porn I cannot see any down-side - this is a good move.
So they store CP and search for CP at the same time? Why is that good?
They only have to store the hash
I dont see how you are any better than they are with regards to tolerance!
Because I don't advocate subduing those of other faiths, killing people who change faith, killing relatives for honour, etc.
Of course! You only condemn EVERYBODY following that faith. Sure u r totally not intolerant!
Of course I condemn everybody following a faith that calls for the subjugation and murder of others. I acknowledge that there may be some nominal Muslims who only call themselves that because of the death penalty for leaving, and I don't condemn these.
Microsoft is a sinking ship, there is no salvage.
You mean like SCO ... oh Wait.
Absolutely, honour killings count as normal behaviour in Islamic countries. I was just refuting the assertion that people carried out "honour killings" because they came from backward countries rather than because they were following the teachings of Islam
He said "patriarchal countries" shit head not "backward".
OK, so you don't consider highly patriarchal countries to be backward. I do.
Just because a bunch of fucked up men twist around their religion, doesnt mean the entire population following it should be condemned nor the religion be disgraced!
Yes this is exactly what I said about their being some Hindus and Sikhs. I could also add Christians. However Islam is unique in that it is a command of the religion:
Sahi Muslim No. 4206:
“A woman came to the prophet and asked for purification by seeking punishment. He told her to go away and seek God’s forgiveness. She persisted four times and admitted she was pregnant. He told her to wait until she had given birth. Then he said that the Muslim community should wait until she had weaned her child. When the day arrived for the child to take solid food, Muhammad handed the child over to the community. And when he had given command over her and she was put in a hole up to her breast, he ordered the people to stone her. Khalid b. al-Walid came forward with a stone which he threw at her head, and when the blood spurted on her face he cursed her.”
I dont see how you are any better than they are with regards to tolerance!
Because I don't advocate subduing those of other faiths, killing people who change faith, killing relatives for honour, etc.
The summary "By Algorithm, Not Human Review" implies that the algorithm is somehow evaluating pictures. In fact from TFA it is clear all it is doing is looking for copes of known existing images by hash-code. If it were examining images I would be worried about false positives, but as it just looks for know child porn I cannot see any down-side - this is a good move.
Next step
A goatse detection algorithm?
I think that's stretching things a bit.
Could it be that the reason why the article is able to point out that they are carried out in western societies, is because;
1) Those western societies are unfamiliar with the practice, and thus find it abhorant enough to make it to the news
2) Said western societies actually have a news organisation to report these matters, instead of them taking place in some backwaters hill village in the middle of nowhere.
You will probably find just as many honour killings occur in the original countries too.
Absolutely, honour killings count as normal behaviour in Islamic countries. I was just refuting the assertion that people carried out "honour killings" because they came from backward countries rather than because they were following the teachings of Islam
I'd say a good number of the Islamic, Hindu and Sihk honor killings are due to the practitioners living in hugely patriarchal countries, the religion came second.. it would be like looking at the southern US and saying that all Christians are obviously end of times gun nuts.
You'd be wrong, check the linked article it is frequently carried out second and third generation Islamic immigrants in Western countries.
So, yes there are some evil Hindu and Sikhs, but it is not entrenched as a specific commandment in the religion like in Islam