Wow, are you really that sheltered? We were attacked by terrorists...plain and simple....if you think those few people that actually carried out the plan on sept. 11 are the only people involved you are being very naive. This is a war on terror.....Iraq is part of it.....sure this administration lied to us about why we are fighting and dying in Iraq, but I'm looking at the big picture. Am I a Bush supporter? NO, definatly not. And, that's why you need to make a distinction between your military and the current administration......Now....this is were I get angry with what you wrote. The reason that those in the US Military deserve respect is because we have the balls to fight for you, fool. Granted those in this generation haven't been given the oppourtunity to fight for a noble purpose, but for you to say anything disparging about our current military is spitting on the graves of the 500,000 men that died to make sure you don't have to speak german or japanese. You know...a quick story about the ideals of the American people during WWII. I've heard a story about a small town in which two men, who couldn't fight, for whatever reason they did not qualify for service, well, they commoitted suicide. It was a different time then, there was a sense of duty. And that is the reason I can't handle anyone that doesn't have the utmost respect for our military and those who serve in it. I mean an arguement could be made that YOU should join up.....serve your country.
I realize I would need more time to really explain to you how this country was formed and the (albeit few) wars that actually were neccessary and what I would deem as a war worth fighting. I would have to explain to you a little about who were are up against, and why killing these people is neccessary for YOUR safety. Like I said......if you don't think that there is a VERY formidable force that seeks to do YOU, YES YOU, harm....then wake up. These people......If they could.....they would not hesitate to put a bullet in your face because of the country you come from.....and you NEED to remember that if our tax dollars, and those marketing tactics, and these "prostitutes", if these weren't there to make up the worlds most advanced and best trained MILITARY, these people and many others like it would be knocking on YOUR door right now......telling you to get down on your hands and knees and all you can hope and pray for is that they get it over with quickly.
Please....for your self....for everyone around you that you attack with your mis-informed naive opinions....please wake the fuck up and stop being so god damned naive.
I doubt very much that you have "every respect for upstanding members of the military" I doubt very much that you have even met a "upstanding memeber of the military" As for "realizing that I sound just like the fundamentalist religious nutcases" again....I doubt very much that you have spoken to or read any materials issued by said fundamentalist religious nutcases, so how the hell would you know. There is a big fundamental difference between myself and the nutcases......I don't kill civilians.....I don't cut the heads off of hostages to advance my personal politcal agenda. No....I believe that my country is in need of defending and I put myself in a position to assist in its defense. And furthermore....our military is not in any trouble at all, not any real trouble anyway.
Hey man.....don't get me wrong....I wrote that when I was angry...usually I have the sense not to engage in these flame wars cause it does nothing but upset me. A lot of this back and forth crap is people with opposite views, knowingly taking it a few steps to far just to piss off the other side. I am a very annalytical person by nature and am usually able to keep my head. But some of these posts really got to me, and in a moment of emotional weakness, flipped out.
Sometimes I forget where my gear comes from...usually I just bitch about its deficientcies, but don't think that I don't appreciate every little bit of gear I get. If soldiers protect the country, guys like you protect our soldiers. But, you aren't who I was directing my rants at, it was guys like whoever first responded to my post. Those who don't think we even NEED a military, much less respect those that serve. I think there are a lot of people out there that can't begin to fathom the sacrfice of service memebers and esspecially their families, ESSPECIALLY during an unpopular war.
It still amazes me that there is still such little respect shown to service memebers, (esspecially infantry, by default, if you ever meet a current or former infantryman, you owe him a beer).
The majority of those who fight aren't patriotic drones who follow orders, or morons that can't make it in the real world, or even poor people without any options. Everyone in the military has joined KNOWING the inherent danger involved, and for whatever reason, and has the intestinal fortitude to sign the dotted line. Me? I joined the Marines post 9/11 (remember that???) and I think everyone of those suicide vest wearing, AK toting, islamic "extremists" needs to die, painfully. I don't care if its in Iraq, Afghanistan, Saudi Arabia, Libya, Syria, IF YOU ARE A TERRORIST, WE WILL FIND YOU.
This isn't Korea, this isn't Vietnam, WE WERE ATTACKED. And if taking out a dictator asshole, maybe unpopularly, to gain a foothold into where all those murdering terrorist fuckheads live.....oh well, so be it. This is the beginning people, We took Iraq just so we won't have to far to travel when we fuck up the rest of those terrorist supporting governments.
And lastly, if any of you have the balls to talk shit about the military or those who serve.....e-mail me, we can meet and I'll teach you some respect. futoket@yahoo.com
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Wow, are you really that sheltered? We were attacked by terrorists...plain and simple....if you think those few people that actually carried out the plan on sept. 11 are the only people involved you are being very naive. This is a war on terror.....Iraq is part of it.....sure this administration lied to us about why we are fighting and dying in Iraq, but I'm looking at the big picture. Am I a Bush supporter? NO, definatly not. And, that's why you need to make a distinction between your military and the current administration......Now....this is were I get angry with what you wrote. The reason that those in the US Military deserve respect is because we have the balls to fight for you, fool. Granted those in this generation haven't been given the oppourtunity to fight for a noble purpose, but for you to say anything disparging about our current military is spitting on the graves of the 500,000 men that died to make sure you don't have to speak german or japanese. You know...a quick story about the ideals of the American people during WWII. I've heard a story about a small town in which two men, who couldn't fight, for whatever reason they did not qualify for service, well, they commoitted suicide. It was a different time then, there was a sense of duty. And that is the reason I can't handle anyone that doesn't have the utmost respect for our military and those who serve in it. I mean an arguement could be made that YOU should join up.....serve your country. I realize I would need more time to really explain to you how this country was formed and the (albeit few) wars that actually were neccessary and what I would deem as a war worth fighting. I would have to explain to you a little about who were are up against, and why killing these people is neccessary for YOUR safety. Like I said......if you don't think that there is a VERY formidable force that seeks to do YOU, YES YOU, harm....then wake up. These people......If they could.....they would not hesitate to put a bullet in your face because of the country you come from.....and you NEED to remember that if our tax dollars, and those marketing tactics, and these "prostitutes", if these weren't there to make up the worlds most advanced and best trained MILITARY, these people and many others like it would be knocking on YOUR door right now......telling you to get down on your hands and knees and all you can hope and pray for is that they get it over with quickly. Please....for your self....for everyone around you that you attack with your mis-informed naive opinions....please wake the fuck up and stop being so god damned naive.
I doubt very much that you have "every respect for upstanding members of the military" I doubt very much that you have even met a "upstanding memeber of the military" As for "realizing that I sound just like the fundamentalist religious nutcases" again....I doubt very much that you have spoken to or read any materials issued by said fundamentalist religious nutcases, so how the hell would you know. There is a big fundamental difference between myself and the nutcases......I don't kill civilians.....I don't cut the heads off of hostages to advance my personal politcal agenda. No....I believe that my country is in need of defending and I put myself in a position to assist in its defense. And furthermore....our military is not in any trouble at all, not any real trouble anyway.
Hey man.....don't get me wrong....I wrote that when I was angry...usually I have the sense not to engage in these flame wars cause it does nothing but upset me. A lot of this back and forth crap is people with opposite views, knowingly taking it a few steps to far just to piss off the other side. I am a very annalytical person by nature and am usually able to keep my head. But some of these posts really got to me, and in a moment of emotional weakness, flipped out. Sometimes I forget where my gear comes from...usually I just bitch about its deficientcies, but don't think that I don't appreciate every little bit of gear I get. If soldiers protect the country, guys like you protect our soldiers. But, you aren't who I was directing my rants at, it was guys like whoever first responded to my post. Those who don't think we even NEED a military, much less respect those that serve. I think there are a lot of people out there that can't begin to fathom the sacrfice of service memebers and esspecially their families, ESSPECIALLY during an unpopular war.
It still amazes me that there is still such little respect shown to service memebers, (esspecially infantry, by default, if you ever meet a current or former infantryman, you owe him a beer). The majority of those who fight aren't patriotic drones who follow orders, or morons that can't make it in the real world, or even poor people without any options. Everyone in the military has joined KNOWING the inherent danger involved, and for whatever reason, and has the intestinal fortitude to sign the dotted line. Me? I joined the Marines post 9/11 (remember that???) and I think everyone of those suicide vest wearing, AK toting, islamic "extremists" needs to die, painfully. I don't care if its in Iraq, Afghanistan, Saudi Arabia, Libya, Syria, IF YOU ARE A TERRORIST, WE WILL FIND YOU. This isn't Korea, this isn't Vietnam, WE WERE ATTACKED. And if taking out a dictator asshole, maybe unpopularly, to gain a foothold into where all those murdering terrorist fuckheads live.....oh well, so be it. This is the beginning people, We took Iraq just so we won't have to far to travel when we fuck up the rest of those terrorist supporting governments. And lastly, if any of you have the balls to talk shit about the military or those who serve.....e-mail me, we can meet and I'll teach you some respect. futoket@yahoo.com