Domino is fabulous. I used the server from 3 to 5, when it became Domino. We immediately made everything Web, so as not to distribute Notes Client to the users. We didn't use it for mail, either, as it happens. I could hack Web applications out almost as soon as the requirements started to come in, and modifications were equally quick. I miss having this great tool.
The wonderful thing about COBOL is that it lays out memory for data in one place, pretty much the way you declare it in Working-Storage. I used to be a great dump reader, and I was thrilled to be able to see the data. We also had dumps of the procedure code and could look at the generated assembly language in one of the compiler outputs.
I was rather shocked when I tried the same sort of thing in PL/1, which put the data wherever it felt like.
COBOL interfaced with any type of DBMS that existed at the time -- IMS, IDMS, DB2 come to mind. I'm sure IBM has it hooked up to whatever you like.
The mainframe now has lovely debuggers, just like any other development environment. Even then, we had a debugger for CICS.
I am happy being a DBA now, but I have no complaints about the good old days. We were productive and even imaginative in our use of this language. And our programs were structured.
Gay people reproduce if they want to. It requires cooperation (and never rape).
Is that a sick idea? Adding a new method is just adding a tool.
The relationship needed to raise a child is far beyond "humping", whether the parents are gay or not. And your concept of gay sexuality for either gender is ridiculous.
I recently downloaded the Gutsy Gibbon iso file -- biggish file. It took days at something like 3.5 kB/s! I have been seeding at something similar (4 connections active = 12 kB/s). I'm using Azureus for Mac - don't ask! Anyway, when I started boosting the speed to 20 or even more kB/s, suddenly the connections started timing out. I could watch an individual connection running at a hot hot hot 6.5 or 9.2, see the software send choke for fairness, then send unchoke and resume. The peers looked fine. But then after 20 minutes or so, there would be a timeout, and I noted that my DSL modem was no longer working (had to unplug and replug to get a new IP address, to get DNS). If I don't start Azureus, it's fine.
I conclude that Verizon is up to no good. This is new -- I used to seed software all the time.
Everybody deletes e-mail messages. But the sort of thing that the Clinton White House would delete is at a much more human and benign level than anything that goes on in the Bush White House. Torture, the attack on the Constitution, subversion of the intelligence process, appointment of incompetent cronies and coverup of failures, awards of contracts to profiteers, etc. This is a more honest and open White House?
You were lied to, son. So were we all. This administration will go down in history as the most corrupt and dangerous ever -- that is, if it does not succeed in rewriting the history books to suit its purposes.
I'm just as happy that the Edgy release came out as it did. It does boot faster -- and it looks OK. I took a good look at the three candidates and found the other two good enough, but Blubuntu is obnoxious! That horrible blob suggests something that spilled on the floor, and the blue is much too bright. (Blue is a good color for a background effect, but not that blue.) The Ubuntu warm colors, much darkened, are fine, and small changes in the Human colors are not a big deal.
Then I looked at the comments around these efforts, and apparently there is a big lobbying effort by the creators of Blubuntu. That really put me off!
It's true that very non-technical people are always making changes to their appearances, including (on Windows) themes with neon pink and chartreuse, pictures of their babies, slide shows, etc.; all of these drive me nuts when I have to fix something on their PCs (why is this thing so slow???). As they are not busy all the time, and the PC is just a glorified typewriter to them, the way it looks is very important to them. They are locked down, more or less, by central IT, so this is the only power they have.
What I really like about Edgy Eft is that all I had to do was change all the Synaptic Package Manager Repositories from Dapper to Edgy, then run sudo apt-get dist-upgrade, then keep an eye out for questions. I'm not an expert by any means, but I love the reasonable upgrade path.
Because employers (not just in India) have no long-term commitment to the employees, and thus the employees have no reason for loyalty, the employer searches for a fully mature and qualified employee, able to perform instantly (in the current quarter) to satisfy the current requirement.
This used to require a consultant. But no, consultants are too expensive. Besides, with the falling apart of the markets, consultants have gone into other lines of work.
What's left? Dragging a net through the pool of recent graduates who studied CS, fewer every year as their older siblings tell them it's a lousy market out there.
There is nothing like the fast development, replication, and webification that can be done in Domino. You have to know what you are doing. You have to use the @function language as much as possible because it is optimised by experts. Most people think they should use LotusScript for everything because it looks like VB, but it is much harder to do a good job. You can also use Java. I even wrote the odd servlet. The best thing was writing for the Web so nobody had to have the Notes client. This was great for international users.
The only thing that needed to be rebooted weekly in those days was the Windows NT servers. Anything that had HTTP running, even if not from Domino, would have a memory leak.
Whatever I had to do, I could do. The user community was great and you could always search the user group database to see if anyone had the solution. Most of the time other developers would have posted code. In return, I would look for questions I had the answers to.
The database format allows you to add a new field (like column) at any time without annoying anyone. It is there to be shown or not in form (screen) or view. You can create databases by importing data from other systems and making the fields visible on a form. The fact that it is not relational makes it very powerful. The lookup functions enable the use of "relational" restrictions; other rules can be built on the forms, just as in any other language.
Replication, and selective replication, enable different regions and even off-line users to have their own data and share it periodically. Replication also enables the developer to distribute code updates to production servers. It is a graceful and elegant system.
For real nightmares, try Exchange. It has a database too. If you want to recover a single document you have to have done a brick-level backup. And all it does is e-mail, and calendaring. The other bits are useless. If you need to write an application, you have VB, Access, etc. I have done that also -- and I STILL MISS DOMINO!
I don't know if anyone noticed, but the author of the original article is given as:
Marc Abrahams is editor of the bimonthly magazine Annals of Improbable Research http://www.improbable.com/ and organiser of the Ig Nobel Prize.
The/. discussion has been very inspiring, far beyond what Marc had in mind when he published this.
The first three paragraphs don't make any sense and should be cut out. The next one is vaguely interesting. But even the name of the thing makes no sense. There is nothing Extreme about country cosmetics. Nor is it a Home and Food Network. You should call it something like Ozark Country Artisan Connection and use a sage green rather than girly pink. As for prose, less is more. You can have Our Goals.htm somewhere.
You also need an English coach!
Good luck!
Yes, and Domino is totally searchable, even the attachments. You can develop applications in it, and have them instantly browser-accessible. You can then control access to these applications. It replaces Access with a truly shared database/front end that is Webified. You can import the Access data and hack it into submission. This can be done in unbelievably short time.
Domino is truly misunderstood, mostly because IBM has no idea how to market it, and never had. It's a lovely tool.
A month or so ago, my ancient Windows 2000 Server partition stopped working. No regrets, just put UBUNTU into my old Linux partition (was RH 7) and happiness is mine.
This is one of those grandmother distros for workstations. Quite nice!
Friends don't let friends buy MS. I have been recommending MACs for years.
Sweetie, you talked me into it. Actually my ancient W2000 Server just finally croaked. It wouldn't even load explorer.exe so no desktop. The only thing running was a probably bogus update.exe. So I am going back to Linux. I am trying the Ubuntu distribution this time; I used to be a Red Hat user.
I don't know if it was this virus or not. It doesn't matter. There is no reason for me to run Windoze at home any more. I support the more modern user at work.
I'm a female programmer who has lots of other things to do, but got into it by taking a course with a friend.
A few years ago a female friend about 40 years old was visiting, and I showed her how to put a message on the monitor using the built-in BASIC. Then she asked how to change the color and I found that. Then I showed her the random function, the goto, and a few more things. She got hooked really solidly and became some sort of IT person for her department at the bank, which was marketing. No, she doesn't code in C++, but a new part of her English-major brain lit up and didn't stop.
If women often don't play computer games, possibly it has something to do with the fact that we didn't get into War outside on the playground. We do lots of artsy things though. If I were a little girl now, I would probably be messing around with the screensavers in Open Source, which are math mostly; and new visual/musical forms. First person shooters just don't do anything for me, although we all did a few Pong and PackMan sessions when that was popular.
A lot of credit goes to her dad, who obtained what she needed to do what interested her. He did it even though she has two male siblings. Probably there would be more women involved in computing if they had supportive fathers -- it is a great motivating factor.
Also note that she has a very retentive, possibly "photographic", memory. That would be very helpful in retaining whatever nonsense is expected on the exams, never mind the real life solutions that can also be learned from real life developers and administrators.
In any case, she may decide later to pursue the MD instead of the career in computers, as all her abilities will be just as useful, and she might then meet a slightly more pleasant group of people.
No gang leader kills by himself; he always has accomplices, and they don't join his gang "for the common good" no matter what they say. They are in it for power and money. They never have good intentions. If they pretend to support the ideas of liberals, perhaps it is because these ideas make sense to the general public, thus serving as a good disguise. (Of course, there are gangsters who pretend to support the ideas of conservatives -- they are not any better.)
Liberals who espouse ideas such as universal health care OBVIOUSLY are concerned with the common good. Most advanced countries have some sort of universal health care, not attained through murder. However imperfect it may be, it is better than the economic rationing we have here. We have Medicare for elders, and it would be perfectly rational to extend it to everyone. It would not require killing millions, not even a few "conservatives", although they would likely not be missed by the rest of us. It would piss off a few insurance companies who are financially influential. They always have been; they have been lying about health care since at least the Truman administration!
I just took a look at the Communist Manifesto-- haven't read it since college. The first chapter is quite prescient in its discussion of what is now globalism. There isn't anything in it about murder, nor about mayhem. It is an idealistic 19th Century document.
Definitely, the Communist Party are "now not liberals". The early Marxists desired to reduce suffering among women, children, and the working classes; so did the Christians of that period. The working out of Stalinist Russia and Maoist China had little to do with that idealism, and much to do with traditional power. Neither liberal nor conservative, these regimes carried out policies that were calculated to suppress criticism of all kinds, including liberal criticism.
Consider that the Romans felt the same way about Jesus, who was the quintessential liberal of his time. Without mayhem and murder, he cast out the moneylenders from the temple. Without mayhem and murder, he supported the poor and helpless, ate with undesirables, and defied authority. How many Christian liberals are inspired by this example! And how many "Christian" fanatics (not conservatives) completely ignore it!
A "yes,but" statement? The liberal ideal does not include murder or mayhem. Liberals are the folks who were associated with antiwar, remember? The common people of these countries, like common people everywhere, continued to try to make a living and stay out of the way. Stalin and Mao were merely the latest of the despots; millennia of czars and emperors had preceded them. The "leaders" working for the despots were the usual gang members you find whenever there is an opportunity for gangsters. The Taliban in Afghanistan are a more recent example; their leaders pretended they were murdering in the name of their religion, but it was just a power thing as usual. The rest of the Taliban were tempted or coerced or both to join the gang; not so different from any other gang. The common people of Afghanistan tried to dodge the bullets, and having no organization, were at the mercy of gangsters. I'm not picking on Afghanistan -- you can choose your favorite from among African, Asian, European, Latin American, and local. In no case is the motivation any sort of "liberal ideal". The American rightists have been sticking the "liberal" label on anything they don't like; but it does have a meaning. Just as "Christian" once did!
I'm sure that Stalin and Mao are spinning in their graves at being called "liberals". They were opportunistic leaders in the totalitarian tradition, none of their followers were liberals either, and each of them caused as much destruction as possible of liberals, who were frequently labeled "intellectuals" and "counter-revolutionaries".
The previously honorable name of "conservative" is also currently being besmirched by cynical thieves and religious fanatics, who want theirs now and to hell with the future of our country. Monsters indeed! Just keep cutting those veterans' benefits, guys; Ayn Rand loves you!
Whenever there is an opportunity, gang-bangers of all persuasions try to take advantage to increase their edge. Using Islam or Christianity as an excuse to bully other people isn't all that different from drive-by killing people who are wearing the wrong gang colors, plus any bystanders. It happens all over the world, in the US as well.
Most people realize they are nothing special, but some of them feel that they must make themselves feel special by pushing other people around in some manner. The more ambitious, sociopathic, and maybe charismatic go further. They are still nothing, but now they have 15 minutes of fame in their little circle of fellow fanatics.
It's no accident that they also treat women badly, even in their families. Bullies are like that.
I just started using BT for Linux distros, and am currently paying my dues by seeding. I don't give a crap for the entertainment on the web -- songs, movies, whatever. The RIAA can keep them. I will be extremely pissed off if anyone causes BT to be thought of as a medium for piracy. If you are using it for that, keepa u hands offa! We need one geeky highway for geeky stuff. Leave it alone and go play on crapster, pr0nster, funster.
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Domino is fabulous. I used the server from 3 to 5, when it became Domino. We immediately made everything Web, so as not to distribute Notes Client to the users. We didn't use it for mail, either, as it happens. I could hack Web applications out almost as soon as the requirements started to come in, and modifications were equally quick. I miss having this great tool.
The wonderful thing about COBOL is that it lays out memory for data in one place, pretty much the way you declare it in Working-Storage. I used to be a great dump reader, and I was thrilled to be able to see the data. We also had dumps of the procedure code and could look at the generated assembly language in one of the compiler outputs. I was rather shocked when I tried the same sort of thing in PL/1, which put the data wherever it felt like. COBOL interfaced with any type of DBMS that existed at the time -- IMS, IDMS, DB2 come to mind. I'm sure IBM has it hooked up to whatever you like. The mainframe now has lovely debuggers, just like any other development environment. Even then, we had a debugger for CICS. I am happy being a DBA now, but I have no complaints about the good old days. We were productive and even imaginative in our use of this language. And our programs were structured.
It worked even for COBOL. If you don't know where you are going, it doesn't matter how you get there.
Hey Plutonite,
Gay people reproduce if they want to. It requires cooperation (and never rape).
Is that a sick idea? Adding a new method is just adding a tool.
The relationship needed to raise a child is far beyond "humping", whether the parents are gay or not. And your concept of gay sexuality for either gender is ridiculous.
I recently downloaded the Gutsy Gibbon iso file -- biggish file. It took days at something like 3.5 kB/s! I have been seeding at something similar (4 connections active = 12 kB/s). I'm using Azureus for Mac - don't ask! Anyway, when I started boosting the speed to 20 or even more kB/s, suddenly the connections started timing out. I could watch an individual connection running at a hot hot hot 6.5 or 9.2, see the software send choke for fairness, then send unchoke and resume. The peers looked fine. But then after 20 minutes or so, there would be a timeout, and I noted that my DSL modem was no longer working (had to unplug and replug to get a new IP address, to get DNS). If I don't start Azureus, it's fine.
I conclude that Verizon is up to no good. This is new -- I used to seed software all the time.
Everybody deletes e-mail messages. But the sort of thing that the Clinton White House would delete is at a much more human and benign level than anything that goes on in the Bush White House. Torture, the attack on the Constitution, subversion of the intelligence process, appointment of incompetent cronies and coverup of failures, awards of contracts to profiteers, etc. This is a more honest and open White House?
You were lied to, son. So were we all. This administration will go down in history as the most corrupt and dangerous ever -- that is, if it does not succeed in rewriting the history books to suit its purposes.
when all you had to worry about were blow jobs and firing the travel office!
I'm just as happy that the Edgy release came out as it did. It does boot faster -- and it looks OK. I took a good look at the three candidates and found the other two good enough, but Blubuntu is obnoxious! That horrible blob suggests something that spilled on the floor, and the blue is much too bright. (Blue is a good color for a background effect, but not that blue.) The Ubuntu warm colors, much darkened, are fine, and small changes in the Human colors are not a big deal.
Then I looked at the comments around these efforts, and apparently there is a big lobbying effort by the creators of Blubuntu. That really put me off!
It's true that very non-technical people are always making changes to their appearances, including (on Windows) themes with neon pink and chartreuse, pictures of their babies, slide shows, etc.; all of these drive me nuts when I have to fix something on their PCs (why is this thing so slow???). As they are not busy all the time, and the PC is just a glorified typewriter to them, the way it looks is very important to them. They are locked down, more or less, by central IT, so this is the only power they have.
What I really like about Edgy Eft is that all I had to do was change all the Synaptic Package Manager Repositories from Dapper to Edgy, then run sudo apt-get dist-upgrade, then keep an eye out for questions. I'm not an expert by any means, but I love the reasonable upgrade path.
Because employers (not just in India) have no long-term commitment to the employees, and thus the employees have no reason for loyalty, the employer searches for a fully mature and qualified employee, able to perform instantly (in the current quarter) to satisfy the current requirement.
This used to require a consultant. But no, consultants are too expensive. Besides, with the falling apart of the markets, consultants have gone into other lines of work.
What's left? Dragging a net through the pool of recent graduates who studied CS, fewer every year as their older siblings tell them it's a lousy market out there.
My heart cries for you!
There is nothing like the fast development, replication, and webification that can be done in Domino. You have to know what you are doing. You have to use the @function language as much as possible because it is optimised by experts. Most people think they should use LotusScript for everything because it looks like VB, but it is much harder to do a good job. You can also use Java. I even wrote the odd servlet. The best thing was writing for the Web so nobody had to have the Notes client. This was great for international users.
The only thing that needed to be rebooted weekly in those days was the Windows NT servers. Anything that had HTTP running, even if not from Domino, would have a memory leak.
Whatever I had to do, I could do. The user community was great and you could always search the user group database to see if anyone had the solution. Most of the time other developers would have posted code. In return, I would look for questions I had the answers to.
The database format allows you to add a new field (like column) at any time without annoying anyone. It is there to be shown or not in form (screen) or view. You can create databases by importing data from other systems and making the fields visible on a form. The fact that it is not relational makes it very powerful. The lookup functions enable the use of "relational" restrictions; other rules can be built on the forms, just as in any other language.
Replication, and selective replication, enable different regions and even off-line users to have their own data and share it periodically. Replication also enables the developer to distribute code updates to production servers. It is a graceful and elegant system.
For real nightmares, try Exchange. It has a database too. If you want to recover a single document you have to have done a brick-level backup. And all it does is e-mail, and calendaring. The other bits are useless. If you need to write an application, you have VB, Access, etc. I have done that also -- and I STILL MISS DOMINO!
I don't know if anyone noticed, but the author of the original article is given as: Marc Abrahams is editor of the bimonthly magazine Annals of Improbable Research http://www.improbable.com/ and organiser of the Ig Nobel Prize. The /. discussion has been very inspiring, far beyond what Marc had in mind when he published this.
The first three paragraphs don't make any sense and should be cut out. The next one is vaguely interesting. But even the name of the thing makes no sense. There is nothing Extreme about country cosmetics. Nor is it a Home and Food Network. You should call it something like Ozark Country Artisan Connection and use a sage green rather than girly pink. As for prose, less is more. You can have Our Goals.htm somewhere. You also need an English coach! Good luck!
Yes, and Domino is totally searchable, even the attachments. You can develop applications in it, and have them instantly browser-accessible. You can then control access to these applications. It replaces Access with a truly shared database/front end that is Webified. You can import the Access data and hack it into submission. This can be done in unbelievably short time. Domino is truly misunderstood, mostly because IBM has no idea how to market it, and never had. It's a lovely tool.
A month or so ago, my ancient Windows 2000 Server partition stopped working. No regrets, just put UBUNTU into my old Linux partition (was RH 7) and happiness is mine. This is one of those grandmother distros for workstations. Quite nice! Friends don't let friends buy MS. I have been recommending MACs for years.
Sweetie, you talked me into it. Actually my ancient W2000 Server just finally croaked. It wouldn't even load explorer.exe so no desktop. The only thing running was a probably bogus update.exe. So I am going back to Linux. I am trying the Ubuntu distribution this time; I used to be a Red Hat user. I don't know if it was this virus or not. It doesn't matter. There is no reason for me to run Windoze at home any more. I support the more modern user at work.
I'm a female programmer who has lots of other things to do, but got into it by taking a course with a friend.
A few years ago a female friend about 40 years old was visiting, and I showed her how to put a message on the monitor using the built-in BASIC. Then she asked how to change the color and I found that. Then I showed her the random function, the goto, and a few more things. She got hooked really solidly and became some sort of IT person for her department at the bank, which was marketing. No, she doesn't code in C++, but a new part of her English-major brain lit up and didn't stop.
If women often don't play computer games, possibly it has something to do with the fact that we didn't get into War outside on the playground. We do lots of artsy things though. If I were a little girl now, I would probably be messing around with the screensavers in Open Source, which are math mostly; and new visual/musical forms. First person shooters just don't do anything for me, although we all did a few Pong and PackMan sessions when that was popular.
A lot of credit goes to her dad, who obtained what she needed to do what interested her. He did it even though she has two male siblings. Probably there would be more women involved in computing if they had supportive fathers -- it is a great motivating factor.
Also note that she has a very retentive, possibly "photographic", memory. That would be very helpful in retaining whatever nonsense is expected on the exams, never mind the real life solutions that can also be learned from real life developers and administrators.
In any case, she may decide later to pursue the MD instead of the career in computers, as all her abilities will be just as useful, and she might then meet a slightly more pleasant group of people.
No gang leader kills by himself; he always has accomplices, and they don't join his gang "for the common good" no matter what they say. They are in it for power and money. They never have good intentions. If they pretend to support the ideas of liberals, perhaps it is because these ideas make sense to the general public, thus serving as a good disguise. (Of course, there are gangsters who pretend to support the ideas of conservatives -- they are not any better.)
Liberals who espouse ideas such as universal health care OBVIOUSLY are concerned with the common good. Most advanced countries have some sort of universal health care, not attained through murder. However imperfect it may be, it is better than the economic rationing we have here. We have Medicare for elders, and it would be perfectly rational to extend it to everyone. It would not require killing millions, not even a few "conservatives", although they would likely not be missed by the rest of us. It would piss off a few insurance companies who are financially influential. They always have been; they have been lying about health care since at least the Truman administration!
I just took a look at the Communist Manifesto-- haven't read it since college. The first chapter is quite prescient in its discussion of what is now globalism. There isn't anything in it about murder, nor about mayhem. It is an idealistic 19th Century document.
Definitely, the Communist Party are "now not liberals". The early Marxists desired to reduce suffering among women, children, and the working classes; so did the Christians of that period. The working out of Stalinist Russia and Maoist China had little to do with that idealism, and much to do with traditional power. Neither liberal nor conservative, these regimes carried out policies that were calculated to suppress criticism of all kinds, including liberal criticism.
Consider that the Romans felt the same way about Jesus, who was the quintessential liberal of his time. Without mayhem and murder, he cast out the moneylenders from the temple. Without mayhem and murder, he supported the poor and helpless, ate with undesirables, and defied authority. How many Christian liberals are inspired by this example! And how many "Christian" fanatics (not conservatives) completely ignore it!
A "yes,but" statement? The liberal ideal does not include murder or mayhem. Liberals are the folks who were associated with antiwar, remember? The common people of these countries, like common people everywhere, continued to try to make a living and stay out of the way. Stalin and Mao were merely the latest of the despots; millennia of czars and emperors had preceded them. The "leaders" working for the despots were the usual gang members you find whenever there is an opportunity for gangsters.
The Taliban in Afghanistan are a more recent example; their leaders pretended they were murdering in the name of their religion, but it was just a power thing as usual. The rest of the Taliban were tempted or coerced or both to join the gang; not so different from any other gang. The common people of Afghanistan tried to dodge the bullets, and having no organization, were at the mercy of gangsters. I'm not picking on Afghanistan -- you can choose your favorite from among African, Asian, European, Latin American, and local. In no case is the motivation any sort of "liberal ideal". The American rightists have been sticking the "liberal" label on anything they don't like; but it does have a meaning. Just as "Christian" once did!
I'm sure that Stalin and Mao are spinning in their graves at being called "liberals". They were opportunistic leaders in the totalitarian tradition, none of their followers were liberals either, and each of them caused as much destruction as possible of liberals, who were frequently labeled "intellectuals" and "counter-revolutionaries". The previously honorable name of "conservative" is also currently being besmirched by cynical thieves and religious fanatics, who want theirs now and to hell with the future of our country. Monsters indeed! Just keep cutting those veterans' benefits, guys; Ayn Rand loves you!
Whenever there is an opportunity, gang-bangers of all persuasions try to take advantage to increase their edge. Using Islam or Christianity as an excuse to bully other people isn't all that different from drive-by killing people who are wearing the wrong gang colors, plus any bystanders. It happens all over the world, in the US as well.
Most people realize they are nothing special, but some of them feel that they must make themselves feel special by pushing other people around in some manner. The more ambitious, sociopathic, and maybe charismatic go further. They are still nothing, but now they have 15 minutes of fame in their little circle of fellow fanatics.
It's no accident that they also treat women badly, even in their families. Bullies are like that.
I just started using BT for Linux distros, and am currently paying my dues by seeding. I don't give a crap for the entertainment on the web -- songs, movies, whatever. The RIAA can keep them. I will be extremely pissed off if anyone causes BT to be thought of as a medium for piracy. If you are using it for that, keepa u hands offa! We need one geeky highway for geeky stuff. Leave it alone and go play on crapster, pr0nster, funster.