Oops sorry got a little carried away. Not trolling just got caught up in the momentum of what I was putting down. I'm opposed to this filtering software because it's a scattershot. It doesn't target just porn, but anything that is regarded as objectionable. I don't even see a way that software can target only porn. Too often the blocked material is about safe-sex, gay or lesbian issues, or stuff that doesn't jive with some right-wing christian ideology. My feeling is that these examples of people jerking off in public are FUD. That's what I meant by strawman, taking the argument and extending it to illogical lengths to make a point. first we have porn, then we have dirty old men (or women) masturbating, next we have full on sex on the library tables. Isn't it all the same? By not saying no aren't we in effect saying yes.
Take your "moral majority" and go back to puritan land. I don't want your laws in my community and I don't want my libraries to be censored by your thugs. Go burn copies of Catcher in the Rye in someone else's town. This stupid idea of censor ship boards going around and reviewing stuff is crap, the only people who want to be on it are the idiots who want to enforce their bogus moral standards on others. Leave me and mine alone.
Hello and thanks for the strawman! It's an issue of principles and what we wish to teach "the children." I want my children to learn responsibility and the ability to make judgements for themselves. If some dude is viewing their pr0n at the library, then so be it. I'm not psyched on my kid watching some ancient cretin spanking themselves in public, that should be done in private, but on the same token what the hell are you worried about? Your kid thinking it's cool to pull their little pud in public? Going off to the men's room with the dude? Frankly, yes this is what I want for libraries, just like I want the cops to be polite to everyone (by law, please, thank you, would you please put your hands behind your back, thank you), and none of my tax dollars going to defense.
The only way an individual can learn to be responsible is by being given responsibility. We are attempting to teach children to be citizens by removing responsibility and not allowing them to judge for themselves. They will not be capable or accustomed to making decisions as adults. Yeah America!
I was disappointed as well. The government should tax half your assets if your in upper income brackets well before death. Every year in fact. Between January and April.
Get a clue. Sending out thugs to stop college kids from perpretating crimes that they had no involvement in is inane. Would you have been pleased if a federal agent showed up at your house in the early morning hours, barged in and started throwing their meaty ass around the room? What bothers me most is the total lack of civility and respect in all of these stories. In both cases (the individuals above and the main story) the governments total disregard for the individuals in question and the agents little dick attitude are the real problem. This is why cops and feds suck, give a man with a tiny penis a gun and he becomes Rambo, and lawyers are your best friend. Who gives a shit about the IRS being mean, I think they should make it mandatory for cops and feds to be civil to their employers, us.
Ummm Atlanta? San Diego? I would have thought Austin and Seattle would be higher on this little list than either of those two. And of course my personal fave, Portland, Oregon. Yes we have skiing, good bike access throughout the city, lots of work, decent traffic, the ocean, excellent camping and hiking, plus ADSL and cable. Did I mention good music and art and lots of fine women.
Holy shit it's a conspiracy. They actually want all of us to NOT buy books from Amazon and they will continue to buy books from Amazon and by some stroke of economic genius they will get CHEAPER prices on their books. Devilish indeed. What we should all do is actually buy MORE books from Amazon so that that evil Hemos and CmdrTaco don't get cheap books. Wooo good thing you spotted this one Zico. (- police pull off mask of hemos and CmdrTaco showing them to be old dudes from Amazon "If it wasn't for you damn kids...")
The implication of both your post and the original post is that we should just suck it up, buy from Amazon and write letters to the patent office. Assuming that's the subtext of your note... Our primary goal should be to vote with our cash. In this case not buying crap from Amazon tells them we're unhappy with their decision. Who gives a shit what they "need" to do. They did not do what we wanted them to and we have plenty of other options (in addition to fatbrain bookpool.com is good and cheap). Let the shareholders and the corporate goons worry about their end, we just need to worry about ours (i.e. wield the stick and don't stop till it hurts).
When was the last time you stood up the FBI? The last time your business was on the line because of something said or written on a site you controlled? You get calls all the time telling you to cease and desist and you just blithely tell them to fuck off? I doubt it. Sending money, when you have it, is easy. When your under the gun it's a different ball of wax. The guy did the best he could and put the site back up when he got the word that it was cool. That's as good as it gets. Give him a break and direct your negative energy elsewhere. All this bullshit internet bravado is tiresome. It's very easy to be a keyboard quarterback and tell everyone else they need to stand up for their rights. But sending cash to the EFF and flaming the shit out of everyone who doesn't match some libertarian pose doesn't make you a revolutionary.
Did you actually read the story? His customers have been getting emailed by "free speech advocates" attempting to kill his business. He claims that he has customers who are threatening to leave over this. It will indeed kill his business. ISP's don't make their money off of banner ads sherlocke. IANAL But I'd bet dollars to donuts that 99% of slashdot readers know two things about real law: jack and shit. While attempting to assuage your own guilty feelings for firebombing this guy may be in the best interest of your conscience, you still sent the mail son.
I don't have to wonder. Flaming the victim here and attempting to kill his business is shitty. It would have been far better if people had sent the ISP emails saying they'd support him in the event of an FBI raid (I'm talking cash here, not bits on a wire) and flamed the shit out of the FBI. I do believe that people are too chickenshit to send the FBI mail. It's very easy to pop off an idiot message to some random company that can't do anything. But the FBI...now all you script kiddie better be burying your shit somewhere safe.What your doing is excusing unwarranted behavior. When was the last time any single person in this forum had to stand up to the FBI? Or had a handfull of lawyers breathing down your neck? Pointing fingers at the people being strong armed is stupid and useless. The flames are better directed at the FBI and Justice Department.
I'm sick of the constant, totally uninformed, paranoid whining. I'm sick of a bunch of allegedly technical people not being able to RTFM, instead I see a bunch of lusers popping off at the mouth whenever the little stick in their ass gets tweaked. Rule number 1: learn how to read the documentation. Rule number 2: Read the documentation.
What kind of idiot runs a game server as root. The morons who actually do this deserve whatever pitiful script kiddy they acquired. Exploits are no good but setting up your software so it can easily compromise your entire machine is just stupid. Sometime you got to break a few eggs to make omelettes (in this case maybe if a few hundred morons got hacked then the rest learned something, probably not though).
That's NOT legit. The circumstance is that they are required to pay YOU overtime if you work overtime. They are falsifying records so they don't have to do this. YOU are losing out and they are breaking the law or at least their contract. You're getting screwed.
I've never understood this. It seems like there are so many damn jobs if someone wants you to work overtime and you can't do it (or it's not reasonable) tell them to sit and spin. My experiences with Silicon Valley engineers have always been bad bad bad. Admittedly the experiences have been with some of the bigger companies but I've never worked with an engineer in the valley worth two shits. Not saying all valley engineers are bad just so damn many in one place, most looking for the gravy train ("Oh yeah you can make a lot of money doing computer stuff" types) that your bound to have a majority of bad apples.
I don't even know what to say about the possibility of finding someone who thought that the manuscript might actually exist. Before reading this I would have guessed zero. I guess I learn something new every day.
Holy shit, I practically pissed myself when I saw that. I wonder where they got the elves? I would think Smally would use these little guys in his buckytube research. Now the only question for building computer is: what are the hourly rates for the little fellers.
I disagree with your assessment that these attacks don't raise security awareness. If the people who are maintaining big corporate and government sites aren't made more aware of the endless possibilities for attack by the continual web page defacement than they are idiots. These events should raise security awareness and if it's not than corporate goons should start paying attention right now. I think the media should continue to play these events. Your billboard metaphor is crap. When's the last time you submitted your credit card number to a billboard? Or used it to send email? Or placed any sort of trusted information onto one? While these attacks don't generally involve stealing private information, the possibility is there. gid-foo
Looser? I'd say those crackers are looser. Looser than anyone I've ever met at least. I don't know about the hackers, they don't seem all that loose. But maybe you have more experience. And who you calling cracker anyways, peckerwood. Why Are You Typing With Random Caps. I Think That You Should Pay Better Attention In English Class.
So, this leaves the question, what are the modern equivalents of hanging around with "tax collectors and sinners"? Well, I would suggest that hanging around on IRC or chat rooms would be a good place to start. Lots of lonely people there, and people who are considered (or consider themselves) "losers". Also, places like bars, where similar groups of people meet. Let's see Jesus hangs with Tax Collectors and Whores, probably a fairly dangerous bunch to hang out with. And you think sitting in your house and typing on IRC is comparable because it's made up lonely kids trading pirated software? You know there are still whores, and homeless people, and pimps and drug dealers (even tax collectors). I think the modern equivalent of hanging out with Whores and Tax Collectors would be hanging out with whores and other disreputable people. People who are both suffering and creating suffering. gid-foo
2. Sell "What Would Cthulhu Do" t-shirts If would buy one if you did. It would be coolest t-shirt ever. Make sure you do ringers (I'm sick of all these cool t's not coming in ringer varieties).
I don't see anyone standing up when some idiot like Pat Robertson or Jerry Falwall starts making noises about our society's moral decrapitude. While it's easy to whine about "the media" (that nameless faceless entity which is always giving too much play to those on the other side) I'd rather see someone get up and make a statement. This whole sensationalist thing is a bunch of bullshit, it's called apathy and it's on the part of christians who don't stand up and make opposition noises when some bogus claim by the Moral Majority or the PMRC comes out. Do you expect this mystery media to come hunt you down and knock on your door: "We'd like a statement regarding the widespread condemnation of homosexuals by vocal christian groups." How many hindu or buddhist leaders (popular or not) on TV screaming a bunch of blather about kids who wear trench coats, or lesbians, or people who don't look the same or think the same or dress the same? So the bottom line is, if you don't attempt to say anything, then you are silently agreeing with whatever group does choose to say something. It's just like voting, if you don't bother then shut up and get to the back of the bus. gid-foo
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Oops sorry got a little carried away. Not trolling just got caught up in the momentum of what I was putting down. I'm opposed to this filtering software because it's a scattershot. It doesn't target just porn, but anything that is regarded as objectionable. I don't even see a way that software can target only porn. Too often the blocked material is about safe-sex, gay or lesbian issues, or stuff that doesn't jive with some right-wing christian ideology. My feeling is that these examples of people jerking off in public are FUD. That's what I meant by strawman, taking the argument and extending it to illogical lengths to make a point. first we have porn, then we have dirty old men (or women) masturbating, next we have full on sex on the library tables. Isn't it all the same? By not saying no aren't we in effect saying yes.
Take your "moral majority" and go back to puritan land. I don't want your laws in my community and I don't want my libraries to be censored by your thugs. Go burn copies of Catcher in the Rye in someone else's town. This stupid idea of censor ship boards going around and reviewing stuff is crap, the only people who want to be on it are the idiots who want to enforce their bogus moral standards on others. Leave me and mine alone.
Hello and thanks for the strawman! It's an issue of principles and what we wish to teach "the children." I want my children to learn responsibility and the ability to make judgements for themselves. If some dude is viewing their pr0n at the library, then so be it. I'm not psyched on my kid watching some ancient cretin spanking themselves in public, that should be done in private, but on the same token what the hell are you worried about? Your kid thinking it's cool to pull their little pud in public? Going off to the men's room with the dude? Frankly, yes this is what I want for libraries, just like I want the cops to be polite to everyone (by law, please, thank you, would you please put your hands behind your back, thank you), and none of my tax dollars going to defense.
The only way an individual can learn to be responsible is by being given responsibility. We are attempting to teach children to be citizens by removing responsibility and not allowing them to judge for themselves. They will not be capable or accustomed to making decisions as adults. Yeah America!
I was disappointed as well. The government should tax half your assets if your in upper income brackets well before death. Every year in fact. Between January and April.
Get a clue. Sending out thugs to stop college kids from perpretating crimes that they had no involvement in is inane. Would you have been pleased if a federal agent showed up at your house in the early morning hours, barged in and started throwing their meaty ass around the room? What bothers me most is the total lack of civility and respect in all of these stories. In both cases (the individuals above and the main story) the governments total disregard for the individuals in question and the agents little dick attitude are the real problem. This is why cops and feds suck, give a man with a tiny penis a gun and he becomes Rambo, and lawyers are your best friend. Who gives a shit about the IRS being mean, I think they should make it mandatory for cops and feds to be civil to their employers, us.
Ummm Atlanta? San Diego? I would have thought Austin and Seattle would be higher on this little list than either of those two. And of course my personal fave, Portland, Oregon. Yes we have skiing, good bike access throughout the city, lots of work, decent traffic, the ocean, excellent camping and hiking, plus ADSL and cable. Did I mention good music and art and lots of fine women.
Holy shit it's a conspiracy. They actually want all of us to NOT buy books from Amazon and they will continue to buy books from Amazon and by some stroke of economic genius they will get CHEAPER prices on their books. Devilish indeed. What we should all do is actually buy MORE books from Amazon so that that evil Hemos and CmdrTaco don't get cheap books. Wooo good thing you spotted this one Zico. (- police pull off mask of hemos and CmdrTaco showing them to be old dudes from Amazon "If it wasn't for you damn kids...")
The implication of both your post and the original post is that we should just suck it up, buy from Amazon and write letters to the patent office. Assuming that's the subtext of your note... Our primary goal should be to vote with our cash. In this case not buying crap from Amazon tells them we're unhappy with their decision. Who gives a shit what they "need" to do. They did not do what we wanted them to and we have plenty of other options (in addition to fatbrain bookpool.com is good and cheap). Let the shareholders and the corporate goons worry about their end, we just need to worry about ours (i.e. wield the stick and don't stop till it hurts).
When was the last time you stood up the FBI? The last time your business was on the line because of something said or written on a site you controlled? You get calls all the time telling you to cease and desist and you just blithely tell them to fuck off? I doubt it. Sending money, when you have it, is easy. When your under the gun it's a different ball of wax. The guy did the best he could and put the site back up when he got the word that it was cool. That's as good as it gets. Give him a break and direct your negative energy elsewhere. All this bullshit internet bravado is tiresome. It's very easy to be a keyboard quarterback and tell everyone else they need to stand up for their rights. But sending cash to the EFF and flaming the shit out of everyone who doesn't match some libertarian pose doesn't make you a revolutionary.
Did you actually read the story? His customers have been getting emailed by "free speech advocates" attempting to kill his business. He claims that he has customers who are threatening to leave over this. It will indeed kill his business. ISP's don't make their money off of banner ads sherlocke. IANAL But I'd bet dollars to donuts that 99% of slashdot readers know two things about real law: jack and shit. While attempting to assuage your own guilty feelings for firebombing this guy may be in the best interest of your conscience, you still sent the mail son.
I don't have to wonder. Flaming the victim here and attempting to kill his business is shitty. It would have been far better if people had sent the ISP emails saying they'd support him in the event of an FBI raid (I'm talking cash here, not bits on a wire) and flamed the shit out of the FBI. I do believe that people are too chickenshit to send the FBI mail. It's very easy to pop off an idiot message to some random company that can't do anything. But the FBI...now all you script kiddie better be burying your shit somewhere safe.What your doing is excusing unwarranted behavior. When was the last time any single person in this forum had to stand up to the FBI? Or had a handfull of lawyers breathing down your neck? Pointing fingers at the people being strong armed is stupid and useless. The flames are better directed at the FBI and Justice Department.
I'm sick of the constant, totally uninformed, paranoid whining. I'm sick of a bunch of allegedly technical people not being able to RTFM, instead I see a bunch of lusers popping off at the mouth whenever the little stick in their ass gets tweaked. Rule number 1: learn how to read the documentation. Rule number 2: Read the documentation.
Or, oh my god, read the docs and disable it from the console. Holy Shit, will miracles never cease. RTFM.
What kind of idiot runs a game server as root. The morons who actually do this deserve whatever pitiful script kiddy they acquired. Exploits are no good but setting up your software so it can easily compromise your entire machine is just stupid. Sometime you got to break a few eggs to make omelettes (in this case maybe if a few hundred morons got hacked then the rest learned something, probably not though).
That's NOT legit. The circumstance is that they are required to pay YOU overtime if you work overtime. They are falsifying records so they don't have to do this. YOU are losing out and they are breaking the law or at least their contract. You're getting screwed.
I've never understood this. It seems like there are so many damn jobs if someone wants you to work overtime and you can't do it (or it's not reasonable) tell them to sit and spin. My experiences with Silicon Valley engineers have always been bad bad bad. Admittedly the experiences have been with some of the bigger companies but I've never worked with an engineer in the valley worth two shits. Not saying all valley engineers are bad just so damn many in one place, most looking for the gravy train ("Oh yeah you can make a lot of money doing computer stuff" types) that your bound to have a majority of bad apples.
I don't even know what to say about the possibility of finding someone who thought that the manuscript might actually exist. Before reading this I would have guessed zero. I guess I learn something new every day.
Holy shit, I practically pissed myself when I saw that. I wonder where they got the elves? I would think Smally would use these little guys in his buckytube research. Now the only question for building computer is: what are the hourly rates for the little fellers.
I disagree with your assessment that these attacks don't raise security awareness. If the people who are maintaining big corporate and government sites aren't made more aware of the endless possibilities for attack by the continual web page defacement than they are idiots. These events should raise security awareness and if it's not than corporate goons should start paying attention right now. I think the media should continue to play these events. Your billboard metaphor is crap. When's the last time you submitted your credit card number to a billboard? Or used it to send email? Or placed any sort of trusted information onto one? While these attacks don't generally involve stealing private information, the possibility is there. gid-foo
Looser? I'd say those crackers are looser. Looser than anyone I've ever met at least. I don't know about the hackers, they don't seem all that loose. But maybe you have more experience. And who you calling cracker anyways, peckerwood. Why Are You Typing With Random Caps. I Think That You Should Pay Better Attention In English Class.
You appear to know two things: 1) Jack2) Shit
So, this leaves the question, what are the modern equivalents of hanging around with "tax collectors and sinners"? Well, I would suggest that hanging around on IRC or chat rooms would be a good place to start. Lots of lonely people there, and people who are considered (or consider themselves) "losers". Also, places like bars, where similar groups of people meet. Let's see Jesus hangs with Tax Collectors and Whores, probably a fairly dangerous bunch to hang out with. And you think sitting in your house and typing on IRC is comparable because it's made up lonely kids trading pirated software? You know there are still whores, and homeless people, and pimps and drug dealers (even tax collectors). I think the modern equivalent of hanging out with Whores and Tax Collectors would be hanging out with whores and other disreputable people. People who are both suffering and creating suffering. gid-foo
2. Sell "What Would Cthulhu Do" t-shirts If would buy one if you did. It would be coolest t-shirt ever. Make sure you do ringers (I'm sick of all these cool t's not coming in ringer varieties).
I don't see anyone standing up when some idiot like Pat Robertson or Jerry Falwall starts making noises about our society's moral decrapitude. While it's easy to whine about "the media" (that nameless faceless entity which is always giving too much play to those on the other side) I'd rather see someone get up and make a statement. This whole sensationalist thing is a bunch of bullshit, it's called apathy and it's on the part of christians who don't stand up and make opposition noises when some bogus claim by the Moral Majority or the PMRC comes out. Do you expect this mystery media to come hunt you down and knock on your door: "We'd like a statement regarding the widespread condemnation of homosexuals by vocal christian groups." How many hindu or buddhist leaders (popular or not) on TV screaming a bunch of blather about kids who wear trench coats, or lesbians, or people who don't look the same or think the same or dress the same? So the bottom line is, if you don't attempt to say anything, then you are silently agreeing with whatever group does choose to say something. It's just like voting, if you don't bother then shut up and get to the back of the bus. gid-foo