Someone ought to mod this up. Facebook's only value is in the information you provide to Facebook about who you are, where you live and who your connections are. As a result, they will defend that little nugget as if their life depended on it - because it does.
Not really. It means that Facebook needs to have some data publicly available for users to browse, but that it can't let people take that data out of the Facebook realm. In other words, Facebook knows exactly what it is doing, and is acting in both cases in its best interest.
Now, does that mean that Facebook's approach makes sense, and would stand up in court? I doubt it, but I don't have the cash to test that theory. Which in turn means that the outcome was just as predictable: Facebook makes up random rules and requests, and they stand because most people don't have the resources to challenge the lawyer army of a successful corporation.
Most likely. Facebook's gold mine isn't even so much the user information itself - it's the networks that they can build out of the relationship data. As of right now, they haven't figured out a way how to make money from it, but they certainly aren't going to let someone take the most valuable aspect of their system - the network information - and put it out in the open.
Personally, I hope someone does the same work, but uploads the raw data anonymously to a torrent somewhere.
DingDingDing! We have a winner. These arguments around "it's a republic", "representatives need to listen to the people" are merely bitching about a result. The only way to discuss these things is on their straight merits. Then we can talk about whether the political process that achieved the outcome was correct.
Just as bad (or possibly even worse) the "Democrats", who're supposed to be the "party of the people" are ignoring the clear will of the people in many cases. For instance shoving healthcare "reform" down our throats which around 60% of the citizens don't want.
I thought the point of a "republic" was that it isn't just a tyranny of the majority. Maybe, just maybe, Healthcare reform is something that needs to be implemented over the objections of a majority? Or would you like to argue that direct democracy is a better form of government? Or is it just that you're pissed that your will isn't followed by all around you?
0 is on a roll of ignoring the Constitution. It appears he views it as an outdated, inconvenient obstacle to be overcome.
You mean, he doesn't agree with your interpretation of the constitution. Or did you miss the parts of the constitution that were ignored in about, oh, a half-dozen major changes to the American Landscape in the last decade?
The arguments you're making are nothing but hot air and empty rhetoric, that can be applied to any situation. Unfortunately, that means that even if Obama would do exactly what you want him to do, the US would just continue down its current path - because you don't have a problem with the system, just merely with the direction the system is heading in.
If you listened more carefully to the broadcast, you'd have noticed that they explicitly said that it is a very, very subtle and very, very faint way of trying to convince somebody. I.e., you're not going to convince somebody who has some legal objections to a law. But you might get to sway somebody who is really on the fence over it... in which case it is similar to "If you vote with us, you'll get to go home tonight instead of continue to sit in this jury box."
I sure hope you were bitching this much when the Patriot Act was instituted, Guantanamo was opened and the President was handing out Executive Orders like they were candy.
Any document is a living document, because the use of language changes. It is absolutely impossible to interpret any document in the same exact that a completely different group of people interpreted it 200 years ago. Heck, we can't even agree on what documents exactly say that were written 2 weeks ago.
The next Republican who claims that Slashdot is a liberal haven where republican/conservative views are squashed due to groupthink will get this comment and its informative mod linked.
That, unfortunately, should be modded all the way to the top. This is exactly what is happening. The only place that you find this argument is among right-wing republicans who are very good at using terminology to elicit an emotional response.
Even the Federalist papers, where all this bullshit is supposedly coming from, explicitly disagrees with the democracy != republic statement.
It disturbs me greatly that a man like this, and Fidel Castro regularly have been praising the direction our country is heading.
Yes, and when the devil says that 2+2=4, it has to be wrong. If you do the exact opposite of what certain people tell you to do, you're letting them influence you just as much as if you followed exactly what they tell you to do. The only way to deal with people like that is to ignore their populist comments.
Not to mention that several years with a mediocre teacher can actually destroy a person's ability to deal with math. I had a friend who only passed his final math exam because three people taught him stuff that in 3 months he was supposed to have learned years ago. But thank to a horrible Math teacher in his formative years, he hated math and was almost incapable of getting over it. Thankfully, he did - but it was amazing the impact that one bad teacher had on him.
You saw a fraction by grade 6? Algebra in grade 8? No wonder the US school system is so fucked - with low expectations like that, there is no way to do anything but scrape the bottom of the barrel. One of my best memories in Math class was when we derived various proofs for the Pythagorean Theorem - in friggin 6th grade. And I was certainly not one of the Math-heads in my class.
So in that sense, I'd agree with you - kids in American schools have got to be bored to tears.
So by that logic, a story about a congressional hearing is an advertisement for that hearing?
Of course.
A story about someone's rights being violated or a major patent lawsuit is an advertisement?
It's an ad for the person who claims their rights were violated, or an ad for a specific side of the lawsuit, or for whatever news site first broke the story.
Everything can be interpreted as an ad. Which is why I requested some information as for the commercial aspect of the transaction, which is of course missing. Which means that this "advertisement" scream is nothing but conjecture, and utterly pointless.
That sounds a lot like this story, but nothing at all like a quote from Torvalds or a move by the FCC, which is the kind of info/. made it's name on.
Really? You must be new here. Slashdot built its reputation on being a news aggregator focused on nerdy interests - lego, 3D accelerators, game releases, weird mods, linux releases... notice a trend here? Yeah, it's all advertising a product, a service, or something cool. If cool 4G phones would have been out 10 years ago, you could bet your ass it would have been on slashdot at some point (maybe even twice).
Of course. But is Wikileaks the entity that gets to decide what should and shouldn't be classified? How about posting the assumed names and covers of foreign agents? Missile launch codes?
Good point. So who exactly should get to decide? The government? The corporations? Private citizens? I like Wikileaks because it isn't the government, and it isn't a transnational corporation - the two entities most likely to fuck you over and with the most resources to keep it quiet.
Here's how it should be: Wikileaks gets to post what they deem fit. If they do post something like names and covers of foreign agents or missile launch codes, they're dead. As in, they can run, but they can't hide. The public face of Wikileaks will be hung high for treason. The leaker might not be caught, but the ones who speak for wikileaks will be. And they know that. So they'll be careful to leak stuff that will get them killed with absolutely no one shedding a tear for them.
And that is how it is right now. So until Wikileaks does post the covers of active agents or missile launch codes, they're doing a good service.
Let me clarify the situation for you: every single story on slashdot can be qualified as advertisement. Every. Single. One. That story about WoW reaching 10M+ players? Advertisement for Blizzard. That story about some guy building a bender robot? Advertising for said guy. That story about a fork in the Linux kernel? Advertising for Linux.
Pointing out that something getting front-page billing on Slashdot is good advertisement for said something is like pointing out the Sun is shining on the Earth: true, but not really useful information. Now, if you would have evidence that Sprint paid CmdrTaco to run this story, this would be an entirely different proposition. However, until you do, you're little more than a blowhard who likes playing Captain Obvious.
And the end result of all this? Patent lawyers get paid, and someone may or may not pay something to someone else. The only thing that patent laws guarantee is the employment of patent lawyers.
Yeah, yeah, patent laws occasionally have good results. I just haven't seen one in a while - the wireless one was probably the last one. They're just being used as legal bombs to bludgeon someone into submission.
There's an actual tricorder app for the Android (don't know about the iPhone). Best app ever - comes complete with acoustic, accelerometric, magnetic and solar data, and the all important sound effects. Now if I could just flip it and talk into it like in Star Trek.... geek bliss.
our Constitutional Republic protects against the pitfalls of democracy
Pop quiz: what's the French system?
You might want to broaden your look before you start making up definitions out of whole cloth.
Lastly, your Franklin quote actually proves that the US system of government is identical to that of a democracy, as it suffers from the exact same flaw: mob rule.
No one outside hardcore rightwing Americans thinks that a Republic is an entity distinct from a democracy. Heads-up: a republic merely means that it isn't a monarchy or autocracy.
Then I question their strategy. $15 for me is a quality game where art and size are reduced when compared to a full game. I don't expect an indie studio to come out with Mass Effect style art, content and videos. But I do expect a full game like Castle Crashers - comprehensive story for RPGs or action game; a full set of maps, tracks and character abilities for racing, fighting or shooting games. If their PDLC wants to compete with indie games, it needs to offer that. But if it wants to also sell the full game, it can't be the full game - and then we're back to a regular demo with significant features or story portions missing.
They can say what they want to say, but it doesn't mean that it necessarily makes sense. In this case, they're trying to sell us a beef rib as being the same as a rabbit - it might cost and weigh the same, but it really isn't. No amount of tap-dancing will hide that.
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Legality these days is determined by the depth of your pockets and the size of your lawyer-army.
China is as much a communist state as North Korea is a democratic Republic.
Someone ought to mod this up. Facebook's only value is in the information you provide to Facebook about who you are, where you live and who your connections are. As a result, they will defend that little nugget as if their life depended on it - because it does.
Not really. It means that Facebook needs to have some data publicly available for users to browse, but that it can't let people take that data out of the Facebook realm. In other words, Facebook knows exactly what it is doing, and is acting in both cases in its best interest.
Now, does that mean that Facebook's approach makes sense, and would stand up in court? I doubt it, but I don't have the cash to test that theory. Which in turn means that the outcome was just as predictable: Facebook makes up random rules and requests, and they stand because most people don't have the resources to challenge the lawyer army of a successful corporation.
Most likely. Facebook's gold mine isn't even so much the user information itself - it's the networks that they can build out of the relationship data. As of right now, they haven't figured out a way how to make money from it, but they certainly aren't going to let someone take the most valuable aspect of their system - the network information - and put it out in the open.
Personally, I hope someone does the same work, but uploads the raw data anonymously to a torrent somewhere.
Any ideas what could cause such a triangular boundary?
10 minutes in Photoshop. Perspective-correct straight lines across a curved surface are really, really, really rare.
A single informative mod is still too much.
DingDingDing! We have a winner. These arguments around "it's a republic", "representatives need to listen to the people" are merely bitching about a result. The only way to discuss these things is on their straight merits. Then we can talk about whether the political process that achieved the outcome was correct.
Just as bad (or possibly even worse) the "Democrats", who're supposed to be the "party of the people" are ignoring the clear will of the people in many cases. For instance shoving healthcare "reform" down our throats which around 60% of the citizens don't want.
I thought the point of a "republic" was that it isn't just a tyranny of the majority. Maybe, just maybe, Healthcare reform is something that needs to be implemented over the objections of a majority? Or would you like to argue that direct democracy is a better form of government? Or is it just that you're pissed that your will isn't followed by all around you?
0 is on a roll of ignoring the Constitution. It appears he views it as an outdated, inconvenient obstacle to be overcome.
You mean, he doesn't agree with your interpretation of the constitution. Or did you miss the parts of the constitution that were ignored in about, oh, a half-dozen major changes to the American Landscape in the last decade?
The arguments you're making are nothing but hot air and empty rhetoric, that can be applied to any situation. Unfortunately, that means that even if Obama would do exactly what you want him to do, the US would just continue down its current path - because you don't have a problem with the system, just merely with the direction the system is heading in.
If you listened more carefully to the broadcast, you'd have noticed that they explicitly said that it is a very, very subtle and very, very faint way of trying to convince somebody. I.e., you're not going to convince somebody who has some legal objections to a law. But you might get to sway somebody who is really on the fence over it... in which case it is similar to "If you vote with us, you'll get to go home tonight instead of continue to sit in this jury box."
I sure hope you were bitching this much when the Patriot Act was instituted, Guantanamo was opened and the President was handing out Executive Orders like they were candy.
Any document is a living document, because the use of language changes. It is absolutely impossible to interpret any document in the same exact that a completely different group of people interpreted it 200 years ago. Heck, we can't even agree on what documents exactly say that were written 2 weeks ago.
The next Republican who claims that Slashdot is a liberal haven where republican/conservative views are squashed due to groupthink will get this comment and its informative mod linked.
That, unfortunately, should be modded all the way to the top. This is exactly what is happening. The only place that you find this argument is among right-wing republicans who are very good at using terminology to elicit an emotional response.
Even the Federalist papers, where all this bullshit is supposedly coming from, explicitly disagrees with the democracy != republic statement.
It disturbs me greatly that a man like this, and Fidel Castro regularly have been praising the direction our country is heading.
Yes, and when the devil says that 2+2=4, it has to be wrong. If you do the exact opposite of what certain people tell you to do, you're letting them influence you just as much as if you followed exactly what they tell you to do. The only way to deal with people like that is to ignore their populist comments.
Not to mention that several years with a mediocre teacher can actually destroy a person's ability to deal with math. I had a friend who only passed his final math exam because three people taught him stuff that in 3 months he was supposed to have learned years ago. But thank to a horrible Math teacher in his formative years, he hated math and was almost incapable of getting over it. Thankfully, he did - but it was amazing the impact that one bad teacher had on him.
You saw a fraction by grade 6? Algebra in grade 8? No wonder the US school system is so fucked - with low expectations like that, there is no way to do anything but scrape the bottom of the barrel. One of my best memories in Math class was when we derived various proofs for the Pythagorean Theorem - in friggin 6th grade. And I was certainly not one of the Math-heads in my class.
So in that sense, I'd agree with you - kids in American schools have got to be bored to tears.
So by that logic, a story about a congressional hearing is an advertisement for that hearing?
Of course.
A story about someone's rights being violated or a major patent lawsuit is an advertisement?
It's an ad for the person who claims their rights were violated, or an ad for a specific side of the lawsuit, or for whatever news site first broke the story.
Everything can be interpreted as an ad. Which is why I requested some information as for the commercial aspect of the transaction, which is of course missing. Which means that this "advertisement" scream is nothing but conjecture, and utterly pointless.
That sounds a lot like this story, but nothing at all like a quote from Torvalds or a move by the FCC, which is the kind of info /. made it's name on.
Really? You must be new here. Slashdot built its reputation on being a news aggregator focused on nerdy interests - lego, 3D accelerators, game releases, weird mods, linux releases... notice a trend here? Yeah, it's all advertising a product, a service, or something cool. If cool 4G phones would have been out 10 years ago, you could bet your ass it would have been on slashdot at some point (maybe even twice).
Of course. But is Wikileaks the entity that gets to decide what should and shouldn't be classified? How about posting the assumed names and covers of foreign agents? Missile launch codes?
Good point.
So who exactly should get to decide? The government? The corporations? Private citizens? I like Wikileaks because it isn't the government, and it isn't a transnational corporation - the two entities most likely to fuck you over and with the most resources to keep it quiet.
Here's how it should be: Wikileaks gets to post what they deem fit. If they do post something like names and covers of foreign agents or missile launch codes, they're dead. As in, they can run, but they can't hide. The public face of Wikileaks will be hung high for treason. The leaker might not be caught, but the ones who speak for wikileaks will be. And they know that. So they'll be careful to leak stuff that will get them killed with absolutely no one shedding a tear for them.
And that is how it is right now. So until Wikileaks does post the covers of active agents or missile launch codes, they're doing a good service.
Let me clarify the situation for you: every single story on slashdot can be qualified as advertisement. Every. Single. One. That story about WoW reaching 10M+ players? Advertisement for Blizzard. That story about some guy building a bender robot? Advertising for said guy. That story about a fork in the Linux kernel? Advertising for Linux.
Pointing out that something getting front-page billing on Slashdot is good advertisement for said something is like pointing out the Sun is shining on the Earth: true, but not really useful information. Now, if you would have evidence that Sprint paid CmdrTaco to run this story, this would be an entirely different proposition. However, until you do, you're little more than a blowhard who likes playing Captain Obvious.
And the end result of all this? Patent lawyers get paid, and someone may or may not pay something to someone else. The only thing that patent laws guarantee is the employment of patent lawyers.
Yeah, yeah, patent laws occasionally have good results. I just haven't seen one in a while - the wireless one was probably the last one. They're just being used as legal bombs to bludgeon someone into submission.
Maybe an actual Health Care Bill, rather than a frankensteinian Health Insurance Bill?
The tricorder in startrek... Mobile phone...
There's an actual tricorder app for the Android (don't know about the iPhone). Best app ever - comes complete with acoustic, accelerometric, magnetic and solar data, and the all important sound effects. Now if I could just flip it and talk into it like in Star Trek.... geek bliss.
our Constitutional Republic protects against the pitfalls of democracy
Pop quiz: what's the French system?
You might want to broaden your look before you start making up definitions out of whole cloth.
Lastly, your Franklin quote actually proves that the US system of government is identical to that of a democracy, as it suffers from the exact same flaw: mob rule.
No one outside hardcore rightwing Americans thinks that a Republic is an entity distinct from a democracy. Heads-up: a republic merely means that it isn't a monarchy or autocracy.
Then I question their strategy. $15 for me is a quality game where art and size are reduced when compared to a full game. I don't expect an indie studio to come out with Mass Effect style art, content and videos. But I do expect a full game like Castle Crashers - comprehensive story for RPGs or action game; a full set of maps, tracks and character abilities for racing, fighting or shooting games. If their PDLC wants to compete with indie games, it needs to offer that. But if it wants to also sell the full game, it can't be the full game - and then we're back to a regular demo with significant features or story portions missing.
They can say what they want to say, but it doesn't mean that it necessarily makes sense. In this case, they're trying to sell us a beef rib as being the same as a rabbit - it might cost and weigh the same, but it really isn't. No amount of tap-dancing will hide that.