I think it's a shame that this has been moderated to -1. That's not a flame after all. I know that "the community" won't agree on any single application of a free OS to be morally good or bad (and subsequently our licenses usually and rightfully do not include clauses to prevent code use by certain entities). However, I can understand why a person chooses to not jump up and down because of the use of Linux by an oil corp, and Slashdot should be a place where it's possible to to express such concerns. I too would be more happy if the news read "Linux used in scientific effort to significantly reduce oil usage worldwide". OTOH, the chance that penguins are washed up on Norwegian shores is quite small, considered that Antarctica is quite far away from Norway:) Dead auks are not better, though
Ah well, I think that has been said before: Did you compile GNOME for another dist? Did you write down what you had to do to get it to compile, step by step? If so, did you then send this notes to the GNOME team and they refused to put in on the website? No?
It's probably too late to expect this is being read by you, dear AC, but anyway: Yes, AFAIK IIRC etc. it was supposed to be in spring 99
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> where the author shows that compiling the source > on a non-Redhat system can be daunting.
FUD. Of course, compiling beta stuff depending on beta libs can be daunting, RH or not. I compiled every release from GNOME 0.99.3 up to 1.0.1 on a SuSE 6.0.1, along with gtk+, imlib and ORBit. I had not a single problem other than imlib needing another version of libpng (no 1.0.2 IIRC) and occasional troubles with patches, as *.png files wouldn't be updated and you had to get the whole tarball again. Sure, some things went wrong, but these were caused by stupid mistakes of mine. Oh, and with the misguided pre-1.0 I had to change some ifdefines as it didn't expect to be compiled against a gtk 1.2 release. Nothing that anyone with rudimentary knowledge of C can't fix. I must know my C knowledge is growing, but from a low level. In fact, following the GNOME mailing list, there were *at least* as much people with problems on RH 5.2 as with SuSE 6.0, probably simply because SuSE is more up do date
Metrowerks announced Code Warrior for Linux in autumn, IIRC. They said it would be out in spring, and that this wouldn't be based on gcc, but that they would build their own compiler. It was on their website.
Stability wise, your're obviously right. However, last time I tried it (Version 1.0, I think), kfm couldn't even sort the file view. That completely ruled it out for me. I mean, what kind of file manager is that? HTML capable, but can't do the most basic functions of a fm? BTW, is there less functionality in gmc than in mc? Or does it only appear so? At the moment, I very much prefer mc over gmc.
My first Linux Installation was SuSE 4.1 and I managed that without too much trouble. I don't have PnP hardware, though, so i can't comment on this. Also I must admit that I felt a bit uneasy, when I installed RH 5.2 for a friend and it started to detect the hardware by itself(went flawless, though) 2 weeks ago I installed SuSE 6.0 and it was a breeze. IIRC there even is an option to let the setup-program do the partitioning, but that's just as useless as the RH version if you happen to have another OS on you drives, which is very probable if we're talking about Linux newbies.
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I think it's a shame that this has been moderated to -1. That's not a flame after all. I know that "the community" won't agree on any single application of a free OS to be morally good or bad (and subsequently our licenses usually and rightfully do not include clauses to prevent code use by certain entities). However, I can understand why a person chooses to not jump up and down because of the use of Linux by an oil corp, and Slashdot should be a place where it's possible to to express such concerns. I too would be more happy if the news read "Linux used in scientific effort to significantly reduce oil usage worldwide". OTOH, the chance that penguins are washed up on Norwegian shores is quite small, considered that Antarctica is quite far away from Norway :) Dead auks are not better, though
Ah well, I think that has been said before:
Did you compile GNOME for another dist? Did you write down what you had to do to get it to compile, step by step? If so, did you then send this notes to the GNOME team and they refused to put in on the website? No?
So what are you whining about?
It's probably too late to expect this is being read by you, dear AC, but anyway: Yes, AFAIK IIRC etc. it was supposed to be in spring 99
> where the author shows that compiling the source
> on a non-Redhat system can be daunting.
FUD. Of course, compiling beta stuff depending on beta libs can be daunting, RH or not. I compiled every release from GNOME 0.99.3 up to 1.0.1 on a SuSE 6.0.1, along with gtk+, imlib and ORBit. I had not a single problem other than imlib needing another version of libpng (no 1.0.2 IIRC) and occasional troubles with patches, as *.png files wouldn't be updated and you had to get the whole tarball again. Sure, some things went wrong, but these were caused by stupid mistakes of mine. Oh, and with the misguided pre-1.0 I had to change some ifdefines as it didn't expect to be compiled against a gtk 1.2 release. Nothing that anyone with rudimentary knowledge of C can't fix. I must know my C knowledge is growing, but from a low level. In fact, following the GNOME mailing list, there were *at least* as much people with problems on RH 5.2 as with SuSE 6.0, probably simply because SuSE is more up do date
Metrowerks announced Code Warrior for Linux in autumn, IIRC. They said it would be out in spring, and that this wouldn't be based on gcc, but that they would build their own compiler. It was on their website.
I want that, too
Stability wise, your're obviously right. However, last time I tried it (Version 1.0, I think), kfm couldn't even sort the file view. That completely ruled it out for me. I mean, what kind of file manager is that? HTML capable, but can't do the most basic functions of a fm?
BTW, is there less functionality in gmc than in mc? Or does it only appear so? At the moment, I very much prefer mc over gmc.
My first Linux Installation was SuSE 4.1 and I managed that without too much trouble. I don't have PnP hardware, though, so i can't comment on this. Also I must admit that I felt a bit uneasy, when I installed RH 5.2 for a friend and it started to detect the hardware by itself(went flawless, though)
2 weeks ago I installed SuSE 6.0 and it was a breeze. IIRC there even is an option to let the setup-program do the partitioning, but that's just as useless as the RH version if you happen to have another OS on you drives, which is very probable if we're talking about Linux newbies.