I agree. I thought Mr. Perry's email seemed fairly apologetic when read as a whole. The comment vis. DARPA funding seemed a bit gossipy, but not maliciously directed at Theo.
Precisely. If anyone can find fault with Mr. DeRaadt's handling of this situation (other than the admitted ethical issue of publishing an email without permission of the sender), I'd like to hear the logic.
Theo DeRaadt did not make any claims, he merely released an email from a fellow who claims to have been involved in placing backdoor code into ipsec. The original sender has not denied anything about the content of the message and it has appeared (afact) unedited.
I doubt if this will stave off the usual Berate DeRaadt Party. I believe that he has handled this with a minimum of B.S. and is allowing the social situation to resolve without adding the measure of vitriol he would be justified in throwing.
The old pizza box NeXTstations, if left to sit powered down too long, would sometimes lose their boot proms. My friend Jake had one go out, so he booted machine a, took the prom out, put the prom from machine b into it, wrote the bootloader back into the prom, then put prom a's prom into machine b. They both booted on next power cycle. Much sighing of relief and drinking of tea followed.
Hazing can run the gamut from "Aw! You ASSHOLES!" to really, really horrible.
On the left end of the scale: ask a coal miner about "greasing" sometime. Generally an "oiler" (someone in charge of keeping equipment lubed) will sidle up to a newbie and inject a generous portion of grease into whatever opening in newbie's clothing happens to be gapped open at the time. Points are awarded for doing the greasing while engaging the newbie in conversation. My dad said the best thing about women entering the mining work force in the `70's was one female oiler's ability to ask "ditzy" questions of a new miner while filling every pocket of his Carhartts with grease and walk away before he noticed it. Not much fun working the rest of your shift with a pocket full of grease.:-)
Skydiving, coal mining, anything with a fairly high degree of shared danger seems to tend toward this sort of silly, harmless behavior. A pocket full of crushed fruit is way preferable to looking like a pocket full of crushed fruit if your chute "tampons" on the way down. Gallows humor is a lot easier for most people than saying "I'm really fucking scared every time I (jumpfromthisplane|godowninthishole) too. I'm here for you".
Vis. "bad hazing" My scientific wild-ass guess is, if your group doesn't run many real risks to life and limb, then you try and substitute it in the ritual it's self.
Great, now I have to go buy thumb tacks and string. If this actually works like I think you think it works, then I think I have a lot of thinking to do.
Those Deolaters among you might want to entreat on the behalf of Fraa Jad.
Seems to me the greatest danger here is whoever rides atop this may have trouble with space junk being drawn into orbit around his/her giant balls.
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Only since the first time I heard it. :-)
I agree. I thought Mr. Perry's email seemed fairly apologetic when read as a whole. The comment vis. DARPA funding seemed a bit gossipy, but not maliciously directed at Theo.
Precisely. If anyone can find fault with Mr. DeRaadt's handling of this situation (other than the admitted ethical issue of publishing an email without permission of the sender), I'd like to hear the logic.
Theo DeRaadt did not make any claims, he merely released an email from a fellow who claims to have been involved in placing backdoor code into ipsec. The original sender has not denied anything about the content of the message and it has appeared (afact) unedited.
I doubt if this will stave off the usual Berate DeRaadt Party. I believe that he has handled this with a minimum of B.S. and is allowing the social situation to resolve without adding the measure of vitriol he would be justified in throwing.
Well said!
The old pizza box NeXTstations, if left to sit powered down too long, would sometimes lose their boot proms. My friend Jake had one go out, so he booted machine a, took the prom out, put the prom from machine b into it, wrote the bootloader back into the prom, then put prom a's prom into machine b. They both booted on next power cycle. Much sighing of relief and drinking of tea followed.
Man, I wish now I'd have spelled my nick "1y5d3x1a" back in the day. I'm really kind of sick of this computer.
Hazing can run the gamut from "Aw! You ASSHOLES!" to really, really horrible.
On the left end of the scale: ask a coal miner about "greasing" sometime. Generally an "oiler" (someone in charge of keeping equipment lubed) will sidle up to a newbie and inject a generous portion of grease into whatever opening in newbie's clothing happens to be gapped open at the time. Points are awarded for doing the greasing while engaging the newbie in conversation. My dad said the best thing about women entering the mining work force in the `70's was one female oiler's ability to ask "ditzy" questions of a new miner while filling every pocket of his Carhartts with grease and walk away before he noticed it. Not much fun working the rest of your shift with a pocket full of grease. :-)
Skydiving, coal mining, anything with a fairly high degree of shared danger seems to tend toward this sort of silly, harmless behavior. A pocket full of crushed fruit is way preferable to looking like a pocket full of crushed fruit if your chute "tampons" on the way down. Gallows humor is a lot easier for most people than saying "I'm really fucking scared every time I (jumpfromthisplane|godowninthishole) too. I'm here for you".
Vis. "bad hazing" My scientific wild-ass guess is, if your group doesn't run many real risks to life and limb, then you try and substitute it in the ritual it's self.
. . .and can you have it bring me a chicken sandwich?
Great, now I have to go buy thumb tacks and string. If this actually works like I think you think it works, then I think I have a lot of thinking to do.
Thanks.
Unknowing Fool!
Cower before the power of my phlogiston bomb!
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=QhjBlPucpd0
"Ficus Benjimina" - latin for "tree that dies in your house"
It was amazing how early mine started using decorators.
Yeah, that shit'd floor a yak at 100 meters.
Quick infrastructure hit? Fly over the sun farm with a crop duster full of Lemon Fresh Joy.
Fantastic work, though.
Those Deolaters among you might want to entreat on the behalf of Fraa Jad. Seems to me the greatest danger here is whoever rides atop this may have trouble with space junk being drawn into orbit around his/her giant balls.
UofB does a synchronized dance, singing of their utter asskickedness as, in the background, thousands of IIT students sharpen their pencils.
It's ON, yaar.
I prefer mocking my opponent's genitals. I call it the "Nad Minimum" attack.
Somewhere, in the swirling mists of the afterlife, William of Occam is rocking his hand side-to-side and saying "Eeeeh, Could be, Doc!"
Wow! I'd forgotten about that media control thing! Wait `till I tell my buddies down at the synagogue! Now maybe we can get Sliders back on the air!
Well, sonovabitch. I never looked at it that way before. I was hoping there was a single, all-encompassing reason I was this dumb.
PREPARE THE ELECTRODES!
Oh quit being such an old sourpuss! Sounds like you have a case of the almost-Fridays! :-)
I keep reading that "Muslim Keynesian Terrorists"
What the Hayek was I thinking?