So in a sense Fedora is for IT pros but not unix hardcore elitists who know what a wifi chipset is or what it means when a disk is full.
WTF? Any "IT Pro" in my org who didn't know what those things were would not be working there long if I had anything to do with it.
Oh... I get it. You're trying to get us to believe that an "IT Pro" is a product manager or some other variety of tie-caddy. And that a "Unix elitist" is what most of us would think of as an "IT Pro".
Which to me demonstrates that you are probably an idiot.
Ray was the principal inventor of the first CCD flatbed scanner, the first omni-font optical character recognition, the first print-to-speech reading machine for the blind, the first text-to-speech synthesizer[citation needed], the first music synthesizer capable of recreating the grand piano and other orchestral instruments, and the first commercially marketed large-vocabulary speech recognition.
So evidently your Google-hate prevents you from reading.
(BTW, the Kurzweiler kicked ass. Ask anybody who was playing music in the 1970s.)
I'd vote you up if I had points left. The OP is missing on so many areas. I started laughing with the fMRI not discovering free will bit.
In my case, it was more like a snort of derision at this on top of the earlier "the brain doesn't store information"/"carrying state information between one generation of synapse and another" argument torpedoing itself in the very first paragraph, followed up with some nonsense about memories being 'synthetic' and therefore we don't have them. Which for mine is akin to telling me that, just because a file isn't known to be in a single definite location on my hard disk, the file does not exist--while I have it open in an editor, no less.
You mean like heliocentrism was tossed out, because if the earth moves around the sun we should see parallax motion of the stars, but when our instruments weren't sensitive to detect parallax motion of the stars, we concluded the earth doesn't move around the sun?
I can tell you're the real article. It's well known that physicists have no concept of paragraph breaks.;)
More seriously, thank you for the excellent post. Which, BTW, backs up everything that my dad (retired physics/math prof) has been complaining about in this area for the last 20 years or so.
Most importantly of all, it not only pushes the boundary of Minecraft it also provides a way to get kids who are already hooked on Minecraft to start learning JavaScript
No, most importantly for my kid, it has the potential to get a highly JS-capable dad interested in Minecraft (a diversion he has hitherto managed to avoid).
However, whether this be a good thing or a bad one is a matter that's entirely up for debate.:)
IBut I am curious, what do people in the USA you know think about your move? Do they understand it?
they probably think he moved for a job
And they would be correct. Else I'd have stayed in Australia--if anybody thinks I came here for.the weather, they're out of their cotton-pickin' li'l ol' minds.
(Actually, I originally left the US mostly to put some distance between an "ex" and myself. If it'd been you, you'd likely agree that the Pacific would be about the right width for a moat between her and you.)
As for Paul's question--my family are generally supportive and many of them have told me in private, "I didn't want to say this out in front of everybody, but I think you're real smart just to stay right there in Europe--for the next few years at least. Just don't forget to come back and see us every so often." And I don't forget, either. B^)
It's bad enough you lose an argument, now you're trying to teach me the trade I've followed for nearly 20 years? I don't think so.
Anyway, you're wrong, for the same reason that "Well, what that code's supposed to do is obvious to me, so the compiler must be stupid" is wrong.
Basically, you're trying to make the case that you should be able to string words together any old way you like, and people can just figure it out on their own. Which is pretty childish IMO.
And most ex-pats will never have the quality of life abroad that native born citizens will in there [sic] host countries (with natives embedded in family and community and stories for generations...
That might be true if you'd said, "will never have the quality of life abroad that native born citizens will in their home towns".
But you didn't, and so it's not.
BTW, *my* quality of life here in Sweden is heaps better than anything I ever had in the States, so even with the correction, your contention is still wrong in at least one case.
I did not have to swim a river or crawl through barbed wire or a minefield under cover of darkness to do so.
In fact, before I left, the US government even supplied me at my request and for very low cost with an internationally-accepted document confirming my citizenship (so I could come back if I wanted) and asking people in other countries to treat me nicely (and telling me where to get help if they don't).
I don't see that happening so often in North Korea, do you?
People don't usually call the firebombing of Dresden playing god, whereas they do call a single case of genetic engineering playing god.
And this disproves what I just said exactly how?
Note that I originally said "magnitude" (as in "order of...") and not "size". Making a big fire does not seem especially miraculous. Creating a radically new and different species of creature--minus several thousand generations' worth of breeding/evolution--does.
And absolutely none of this has anything whatsofuckingever to do with "knowing the will of God", so I'd say you've failed to disprove my actual fucking *point* pretty damned well.
It's a tragedy when you offer a simulation as proof of the existence of the thing being simulated.
I counter that you can just as easily 'simulate' things that do not actually exist.
(I accept that things evolve over time. Including plant and animal species. Including the ones that eventually led to humans. I am not obliged to accept your put-the-cart-first substitute for logical rigour, and I do not.)
You're about 30,000 years late to the panic party. Those genes have already long since been introduced into the H. Sapiens gene pool. Unless you're pure sub-Sahara African, somewhere between 1 and 4 percent of your genes are Neanderthaler genes.
(An aside: I always found the racist implication that blacks are by nature more 'primitive' or 'ape-man/cave-man'-like than whites to be most amusing in light of the fact that they're the only ones who don't carry DNA from an older species of human around with them. FWIW, I'm white.)
The successful outcome of an experiment such as we're discussing here would be a viable H. Neanderthalensis, a member of genus Homo and therefore a human.
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So in a sense Fedora is for IT pros but not unix hardcore elitists who know what a wifi chipset is or what it means when a disk is full.
WTF? Any "IT Pro" in my org who didn't know what those things were would not be working there long if I had anything to do with it.
Oh... I get it. You're trying to get us to believe that an "IT Pro" is a product manager or some other variety of tie-caddy. And that a "Unix elitist" is what most of us would think of as an "IT Pro".
Which to me demonstrates that you are probably an idiot.
Ray was the principal inventor of the first CCD flatbed scanner, the first omni-font optical character recognition, the first print-to-speech reading machine for the blind, the first text-to-speech synthesizer[citation needed], the first music synthesizer capable of recreating the grand piano and other orchestral instruments, and the first commercially marketed large-vocabulary speech recognition.
So evidently your Google-hate prevents you from reading.
(BTW, the Kurzweiler kicked ass. Ask anybody who was playing music in the 1970s.)
Birds were the first heavier than air bodies to fly in the sky...
Oh really?
I'd vote you up if I had points left. The OP is missing on so many areas. I started laughing with the fMRI not discovering free will bit.
In my case, it was more like a snort of derision at this on top of the earlier "the brain doesn't store information"/"carrying state information between one generation of synapse and another" argument torpedoing itself in the very first paragraph, followed up with some nonsense about memories being 'synthetic' and therefore we don't have them. Which for mine is akin to telling me that, just because a file isn't known to be in a single definite location on my hard disk, the file does not exist--while I have it open in an editor, no less.
Don't bother asking it, "Why is there air?" either.
(Besides, Bill Cosby already answered that question about 45 years ago.)
You mean like heliocentrism was tossed out, because if the earth moves around the sun we should see parallax motion of the stars, but when our instruments weren't sensitive to detect parallax motion of the stars, we concluded the earth doesn't move around the sun?
Um, No. Just No.
Heliocentrism got tossed out because people who expounded it had a nasty habit of going up in flames.
You really want to be a housepet of the World AI Overmind?
As for me, I don't believe in a deus, and whether or not it's ex machina makes no difference to me.
Thanks, but no thanks.
I can tell you're the real article. It's well known that physicists have no concept of paragraph breaks. ;)
More seriously, thank you for the excellent post. Which, BTW, backs up everything that my dad (retired physics/math prof) has been complaining about in this area for the last 20 years or so.
Right, I tagged the story "crapheadline" as soon as I RTFS.
Yeah, all my pop culture references are rapidly sliding out of date. Ah well.
And there would be my answer... Not nearly long enough, it seems.
Most importantly of all, it not only pushes the boundary of Minecraft it also provides a way to get kids who are already hooked on Minecraft to start learning JavaScript
No, most importantly for my kid, it has the potential to get a highly JS-capable dad interested in Minecraft (a diversion he has hitherto managed to avoid).
However, whether this be a good thing or a bad one is a matter that's entirely up for debate. :)
IBut I am curious, what do people in the USA you know think about your move? Do they understand it?
they probably think he moved for a job
And they would be correct. Else I'd have stayed in Australia--if anybody thinks I came here for.the weather, they're out of their cotton-pickin' li'l ol' minds.
(Actually, I originally left the US mostly to put some distance between an "ex" and myself. If it'd been you, you'd likely agree that the Pacific would be about the right width for a moat between her and you.)
As for Paul's question--my family are generally supportive and many of them have told me in private, "I didn't want to say this out in front of everybody, but I think you're real smart just to stay right there in Europe--for the next few years at least. Just don't forget to come back and see us every so often." And I don't forget, either. B^)
It's bad enough you lose an argument, now you're trying to teach me the trade I've followed for nearly 20 years? I don't think so.
Anyway, you're wrong, for the same reason that "Well, what that code's supposed to do is obvious to me, so the compiler must be stupid" is wrong.
Basically, you're trying to make the case that you should be able to string words together any old way you like, and people can just figure it out on their own. Which is pretty childish IMO.
Come back when you understand the difference between ethics and morals. You're talking about morals.
I actually only just now read his daughter's post.... wow. Just, *wow*. Seriously disconnected from reality.
WTF? She merely reported what she saw, and made it clear from the beginning that's all she intended to do.
And it looks to me like this is exactly what she did.
And most ex-pats will never have the quality of life abroad that native born citizens will in there [sic] host countries (with natives embedded in family and community and stories for generations...
That might be true if you'd said, "will never have the quality of life abroad that native born citizens will in their home towns".
But you didn't, and so it's not.
BTW, *my* quality of life here in Sweden is heaps better than anything I ever had in the States, so even with the correction, your contention is still wrong in at least one case.
I moved away from the US nearly 12 years ago.
I did not have to swim a river or crawl through barbed wire or a minefield under cover of darkness to do so.
In fact, before I left, the US government even supplied me at my request and for very low cost with an internationally-accepted document confirming my citizenship (so I could come back if I wanted) and asking people in other countries to treat me nicely (and telling me where to get help if they don't).
I don't see that happening so often in North Korea, do you?
People don't usually call the firebombing of Dresden playing god, whereas they do call a single case of genetic engineering playing god.
And this disproves what I just said exactly how?
Note that I originally said "magnitude" (as in "order of ...") and not "size". Making a big fire does not seem especially miraculous. Creating a radically new and different species of creature--minus several thousand generations' worth of breeding/evolution--does.
And absolutely none of this has anything whatsofuckingever to do with "knowing the will of God", so I'd say you've failed to disprove my actual fucking *point* pretty damned well.
Cheers.
Fuck Stargate.
On the contrary, my experience is that it's the sarcastic folks who are generally the least confused.
It's a tragedy when you offer a simulation as proof of the existence of the thing being simulated.
I counter that you can just as easily 'simulate' things that do not actually exist.
(I accept that things evolve over time. Including plant and animal species. Including the ones that eventually led to humans. I am not obliged to accept your put-the-cart-first substitute for logical rigour, and I do not.)
You're about 30,000 years late to the panic party. Those genes have already long since been introduced into the H. Sapiens gene pool. Unless you're pure sub-Sahara African, somewhere between 1 and 4 percent of your genes are Neanderthaler genes.
(An aside: I always found the racist implication that blacks are by nature more 'primitive' or 'ape-man/cave-man'-like than whites to be most amusing in light of the fact that they're the only ones who don't carry DNA from an older species of human around with them. FWIW, I'm white.)
The successful outcome of an experiment such as we're discussing here would be a viable H. Neanderthalensis, a member of genus Homo and therefore a human.
I prefer
Mother was an incubator
Father was the contents
of a test tube in the ice box
In the factory of birth
--The Who
This topic is about a non-human.
Wrong. We're talking about Homo Neanderthalensis, which--being a member of genus Homo--is perforce a species of human.