Well, that might be true (but why should Me, myself and I care anyhows?), but so were Metropolis, Ulam and Teller. Yes maybe not all of them were born Americans, but then again you are all immigrants or decendants of.
And, by the way, everybody knows that all usefull inventions are German...
Though I admit I did not dig all you've said (I'm not a native speaker), especially the part where you point out:
"All creationists (er IDers) can come up with is "we don't understand it, god musta done it". It's primitive thinking and its pathetic."
is dead on.
I would phrase it: If one points out, that certain phenomena can not (yet) be fully explained by (current) science, this is not (never) any indication that these phenomena can never be explainde by science. It's merely the very reason for ongoing research...
I know ID is a burned term (and rigthly so), but one could, IMHO, contemplate if certain structures carry aspects of being designed, similar to maybe how you try to identify man made structures in sattelite pictures to hunt for hidden artifacts of ancient societies. But I admit I'm no expert on this.
The key point is however, that most (or all) of the ID people are NOT REALLY interested in scientific examination or research. Some of them even explicitly state that they KNOW the result beforehand (before looking at the data) and not only expect but KNOW that the data WILL SUPPORT their view. This is inherently unscientific to start with. If anything like a contemplation on design being intelligent or not is possible and what results this would yield is therefore irrelevant, because these creationists disguised as scientists are not doing science AT ALL. To even discuss merits of ID with them is a small victory for them.
Yeah, I think I know what you means.
Anyways, this part of it was not really meant to convey real information, M$ is not really trying to "fix it" or "get it right" (from a users perspective). The real motive is, they want the public at large to think they are going to be big in this business, nothing in it for anybody else, better do not compete...
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Well, do you think there could be some kind of correlation?
And, by the way, everybody knows that all usefull inventions are German
That was more like Metropolis, Ulam (I think Teller had something to do with it)
see: Wikipedia
Though I admit I did not dig all you've said (I'm not a native speaker), especially the part where you point out:
...
"All creationists (er IDers) can come up with is "we don't understand it, god musta done it". It's primitive thinking and its pathetic."
is dead on.
I would phrase it:
If one points out, that certain phenomena can not (yet) be fully explained by (current) science, this is not (never) any indication that these phenomena can never be explainde by science.
It's merely the very reason for ongoing research
I think you are missing an important point.
I know ID is a burned term (and rigthly so), but one could, IMHO, contemplate if certain structures carry aspects of being designed, similar to maybe how you try to identify man made structures in sattelite pictures to hunt for hidden artifacts of ancient societies. But I admit I'm no expert on this.
The key point is however, that most (or all) of the ID people are NOT REALLY interested in scientific examination or research. Some of them even explicitly state that they KNOW the result beforehand (before looking at the data) and not only expect but KNOW that the data WILL SUPPORT their view. This is inherently unscientific to start with. If anything like a contemplation on design being intelligent or not is possible and what results this would yield is therefore irrelevant, because these creationists disguised as scientists are not doing science AT ALL. To even discuss merits of ID with them is a small victory for them.
Yeah, I think I know what you means. Anyways, this part of it was not really meant to convey real information, M$ is not really trying to "fix it" or "get it right" (from a users perspective). The real motive is, they want the public at large to think they are going to be big in this business, nothing in it for anybody else, better do not compete ...