Whatever. You guys are obviously not open to any discussion on the problems that do exist with linux (and I am a linux supporter), you just want to defend to the death your view of what it is and its "superiority" to anything else, especially Windows. I'm done talking about it and won't be posting or visiting here anymore. Satisfied?
That's precisely my issue with him. People think he knows what he's talking about simply because he's a celebrity or a "nice guy". But if you read his interviews or listen to his shows, he's clearly misinformed on some important issues regarding technology.
Real-time does seem to be an issue, but I guess we're getting off-topic here. Is the future *nix with a VM in which all apps run (like a cellphone or PDA)?
Good point. The issue I have with some of the managed code platforms out there (especially the current direction of.NET) is the closed nature of them, which leads back to a sort of proprietary interface where we're coding more to the platform and within its restrictions rather than opening the system calls themselves up with a managed interface.
This was certainly part of the goal with MFC, ATL, STL, GTK and a whole host of other class libraries and API's, even though they were written in unmanaged runtimes. I think the goal should be not to protect us from ourselves (the MS way), but rather to shield us from differences in hardware, filesystems, etc.
I knew that would get some reactions... What I meant was, every video card I've ever used with it - a lot of which did happen to be ATI cards - and yes, I know of the community's view of ATI on linux, crashed or locked up the entire system at one point or another. MS has always maintained that the biggest stability issues in Windows have stemmed from poorly written or out-of-date drivers. I think that's really the biggest hurdle to using Linux as an everyday desktop, for most people - including me, and I'm a professional developer. So, that said, comments?
Alright, you Linux fanatic. I've used it for years - AS A SERVER OS. You simply can't get around the fact that every desktop crashes on every video card if you even try to do anything that works it hard. And the stupidity comment was a little out of line.
The problem is, not everything can be done with managed code. There will always be a need to get down to "bare metal" coding to get some things done.
For example: Has anyone ever tried printing actual TEXT to a printer (not an image created from text input) on the.NET platform? I have, and lemme tell you, managed code won't do it unless you consider creating managed libraries utilizing unmanaged code to be still in the realm of "managed code".
Why should we take seriously anything that Leo Laporte has to say? He's not involved in the OS community; he's just a TV and radio personality. What, exactly, qualifies him as a pundit on such issues?
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Whatever. You guys are obviously not open to any discussion on the problems that do exist with linux (and I am a linux supporter), you just want to defend to the death your view of what it is and its "superiority" to anything else, especially Windows. I'm done talking about it and won't be posting or visiting here anymore. Satisfied?
That's precisely my issue with him. People think he knows what he's talking about simply because he's a celebrity or a "nice guy". But if you read his interviews or listen to his shows, he's clearly misinformed on some important issues regarding technology.
Why not? They're already doing it for dogs. Now if only we could implant GPS tracking as well...
BTW, props on the email munging, Martin.
This was certainly part of the goal with MFC, ATL, STL, GTK and a whole host of other class libraries and API's, even though they were written in unmanaged runtimes. I think the goal should be not to protect us from ourselves (the MS way), but rather to shield us from differences in hardware, filesystems, etc.
I knew that would get some reactions... What I meant was, every video card I've ever used with it - a lot of which did happen to be ATI cards - and yes, I know of the community's view of ATI on linux, crashed or locked up the entire system at one point or another. MS has always maintained that the biggest stability issues in Windows have stemmed from poorly written or out-of-date drivers. I think that's really the biggest hurdle to using Linux as an everyday desktop, for most people - including me, and I'm a professional developer. So, that said, comments?
Alright, you Linux fanatic. I've used it for years - AS A SERVER OS. You simply can't get around the fact that every desktop crashes on every video card if you even try to do anything that works it hard. And the stupidity comment was a little out of line.
..if MS actually did do a linux distro, maybe XF86 and XORG would actually work with a video card? Huh? Huh?
Yeah, whatever. Name-dropper.
For example: Has anyone ever tried printing actual TEXT to a printer (not an image created from text input) on the .NET platform? I have, and lemme tell you, managed code won't do it unless you consider creating managed libraries utilizing unmanaged code to be still in the realm of "managed code".
Why should we take seriously anything that Leo Laporte has to say? He's not involved in the OS community; he's just a TV and radio personality. What, exactly, qualifies him as a pundit on such issues?