this has been discussed here http://www.sibylleandthomas.info/drupal-5.2/node/19 a few days ago. The community needs to accept that some users just want to use a computer for their benefits (web, mail, etc) and are not interested by how they work.
Do many people care about how their car works? no, they don't. some do. Computers are the same.
not quite, I got everything up and running, I had just a simple basic question. It's not like I asked people to walk me through a process without doing any homework before.
What I criticize is the elitist culture that doesn't bring anything but the 'I know it, you don't so you suck' attitude; while they don't realize that there are plenty of topics they probably suck at for which other people have skills.
It's all about attitude. I have never seen in the windows world the elitist attitude, have you?
This is not even the problem, some people just do NOT care, they want a working solution.
Do not drive your car until you can explain me camshaft calculations then. Who decides how much training you need? the user does depending on his needs. 'can't drive a car without training'? how deep is the training? some people just want to drive, some want to understand the details. You can have a car that requires a very deep understanding of its technology, but it limits its audience, do you want Linux to become this?
Linux is the worst for this; one example:
(background: I am a windows user as we use it at work and Linux doesn't personally offer me any advantages over windows.)
One time we needed a Samba server, so I took an older PC, installed Linux on it, and then Samba; it didn't cause much problems, but I had one issue to solve; I went to one of the linux channels on irc and instead of answering my question, I was confronted with stupid comments on how all the answers are in the doc and how stupid I was for now knowing.
Most likely the docs held the answers, but in reality... I couldn't care less, I just wanted a working solution and somebody helped me out in a couple minutes.
The Linux attitude is the OS' biggest ennemy. I think it is great to have other options than Windows, but when the users' elitist culture get in the way, this makes me want to ignore the OS itself.
In the meantime, do not use your computer until you fully understand the internals of your PC's chipset at the atomic level. Maybe you don't care though and just want to use your PC though...
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this has been discussed here http://www.sibylleandthomas.info/drupal-5.2/node/19 a few days ago. The community needs to accept that some users just want to use a computer for their benefits (web, mail, etc) and are not interested by how they work. Do many people care about how their car works? no, they don't. some do. Computers are the same.
not quite, I got everything up and running, I had just a simple basic question. It's not like I asked people to walk me through a process without doing any homework before. What I criticize is the elitist culture that doesn't bring anything but the 'I know it, you don't so you suck' attitude; while they don't realize that there are plenty of topics they probably suck at for which other people have skills. It's all about attitude. I have never seen in the windows world the elitist attitude, have you?
This is not even the problem, some people just do NOT care, they want a working solution. Do not drive your car until you can explain me camshaft calculations then. Who decides how much training you need? the user does depending on his needs. 'can't drive a car without training'? how deep is the training? some people just want to drive, some want to understand the details. You can have a car that requires a very deep understanding of its technology, but it limits its audience, do you want Linux to become this? Linux is the worst for this; one example: (background: I am a windows user as we use it at work and Linux doesn't personally offer me any advantages over windows.) One time we needed a Samba server, so I took an older PC, installed Linux on it, and then Samba; it didn't cause much problems, but I had one issue to solve; I went to one of the linux channels on irc and instead of answering my question, I was confronted with stupid comments on how all the answers are in the doc and how stupid I was for now knowing. Most likely the docs held the answers, but in reality... I couldn't care less, I just wanted a working solution and somebody helped me out in a couple minutes. The Linux attitude is the OS' biggest ennemy. I think it is great to have other options than Windows, but when the users' elitist culture get in the way, this makes me want to ignore the OS itself. In the meantime, do not use your computer until you fully understand the internals of your PC's chipset at the atomic level. Maybe you don't care though and just want to use your PC though...