Speaking as a non-earning musician.... I think it would be nice if music were a tad less commercialised. Under the current marketing regime, yes you are dead right. Fewer record/CD/micro-optical-gizmo sales will effect the little guy. The point of the issue here is that we have entered the age where scarcity (of the IP) has just about been eliminated. The system of distribution we have for music is based upon a false premise.
The loss to the little guy is the result of a crap distribution system. Good music has the ability to make listeners' lives better. By introducing hardware controls on the distribution simply to line the wallets of particular entrenched interest makes fuck all sense.
Wouldn't the world be a better place if the good music could propogate amongst friends and/or communities?
NB I'm not personally proposing a replacement system here. Let it evolve like the last one. I imagine there are a bunch of well paid musicians out there who wouldn't be too happy about this, but then there are a stack more not-well paid musicians who produce music because they want to produce music and be heard. Now that we have the ability to do that, why wouldn't we?
When some smart techy comes up with the trick to reproducing rice as easily as we can now reproduce bits, would you be calling that theft from agribusiness, and stressing out? Some people would think of it as an end to hunger.
Read a bit of Andre Gorz, and realise that what may be the beginning of the end of scarcity is a GOOD THING.
The issue here is the failure of capitalism in its current form to deal with this form of distribution.
Yes, there are problems with this, but we should be looking at this as an opportunity, not a reason to be clinging to irrelevant paradigms.
Something is wrong here, but it's not the 'celestial jukebox' concept, it's our inability to deal with it. Of course we should look after our artists, but that is not going to happen by tying the hands of the music lover and denying them the ability to appreciate the artists' work.
I fail to see the difference between this and the time ebay took off the ad for a bale of dope. Substance/item made illegal in some jurisdictions being advertised in a lot more....
...no, wait, that was for a US law, how silly of me.
Of course, as the article says, some ISPs already give you a free 0800 number anyway (X-stream, for instance)... but it doesn't make a lot of difference, unless you get your kicks from listening to busy signals.
History tells me I should be much more fearful of an armed government of a disarmed populace, than of any particular weapons (be they guns, gasoline, or explosives) in the hands of private citizens
As I understand the provision in the US constitution for the right to bear arms is to guard against govt tyranny. Of course, small arms are hardly state-of-the-art military hardware these days are they? When the crimes of the US Govt reach that point where significant resistance is called for, do you honestly think that small arms will be the tools for the job?
If that argument is to make any sense at all, you'd be wanting a few privately owned tanks, gunships and cruise missiles, no?
You thought Columbine was bad... you want to wait until little Johnny takes an Apache to school!
The relevant principle is known as Compulsory Licencing (spel?). National governments are empowered, under crisis circumstances, to produce generic versions of expensive drugs. Of course, when South Africa attempted to do this recently with AIDS drugs, US pharmaceutical companies leaned on Al Gore, who in turn threatened the South African government with a withdrawal of aid, who in turn backed down.
The point I'm making is that it's not the fault of the law in such cases... rather of US hegemony and the power of lobbying groups.
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To be honest, I'd be surprised if someone as control-freak as that would be so well hung!
Buckets,
pompomtom
To some extent, yes you have.
Speaking as a non-earning musician.... I think it would be nice if music were a tad less commercialised. Under the current marketing regime, yes you are dead right. Fewer record/CD/micro-optical-gizmo sales will effect the little guy. The point of the issue here is that we have entered the age where scarcity (of the IP) has just about been eliminated. The system of distribution we have for music is based upon a false premise.
The loss to the little guy is the result of a crap distribution system. Good music has the ability to make listeners' lives better. By introducing hardware controls on the distribution simply to line the wallets of particular entrenched interest makes fuck all sense.
Wouldn't the world be a better place if the good music could propogate amongst friends and/or communities?
NB I'm not personally proposing a replacement system here. Let it evolve like the last one. I imagine there are a bunch of well paid musicians out there who wouldn't be too happy about this, but then there are a stack more not-well paid musicians who produce music because they want to produce music and be heard. Now that we have the ability to do that, why wouldn't we?
When some smart techy comes up with the trick to reproducing rice as easily as we can now reproduce bits, would you be calling that theft from agribusiness, and stressing out? Some people would think of it as an end to hunger.
Read a bit of Andre Gorz, and realise that what may be the beginning of the end of scarcity is a GOOD THING.
The issue here is the failure of capitalism in its current form to deal with this form of distribution.
Yes, there are problems with this, but we should be looking at this as an opportunity, not a reason to be clinging to irrelevant paradigms.
Something is wrong here, but it's not the 'celestial jukebox' concept, it's our inability to deal with it. Of course we should look after our artists, but that is not going to happen by tying the hands of the music lover and denying them the ability to appreciate the artists' work.
Buckets,
pompomtom
http://caselaw.lp.findlaw.com/scripts/getcase.pl?c ourt=US&vol=210&invol=339
Buckets,
pompomtom
I like that.... slag someone off about tech-ignorance, and then be talking about negative kelvin. Nice one. hehehehe....
Buckets,
pompomtom
...and can't even spell QWERTUIOP!!
Buckets,
pompomtom
I fail to see the difference between this and the time ebay took off the ad for a bale of dope. Substance/item made illegal in some jurisdictions being advertised in a lot more....
...no, wait, that was for a US law, how silly of me.
Buckets,
pompomtom
Of course, as the article says, some ISPs already give you a free 0800 number anyway (X-stream, for instance)... but it doesn't make a lot of difference, unless you get your kicks from listening to busy signals.
Buckets,
pompomtom
History tells me I should be much more fearful of an armed government of a disarmed populace, than of any particular weapons (be they guns, gasoline, or explosives) in the hands of private citizens
As I understand the provision in the US constitution for the right to bear arms is to guard against govt tyranny. Of course, small arms are hardly state-of-the-art military hardware these days are they? When the crimes of the US Govt reach that point where significant resistance is called for, do you honestly think that small arms will be the tools for the job?
If that argument is to make any sense at all, you'd be wanting a few privately owned tanks, gunships and cruise missiles, no?
You thought Columbine was bad... you want to wait until little Johnny takes an Apache to school!
Buckets,
pompomtom
Guns don't kill people. People with guns kill people.
Buckets,
pompomtom
The jizz leaves your penis at 120MPH and will richochet around the ship at high speeds...
Perhaps you could find something to catch it....
...like a partner?
Buckets,
pompomtom
The relevant principle is known as Compulsory Licencing (spel?). National governments are empowered, under crisis circumstances, to produce generic versions of expensive drugs. Of course, when South Africa attempted to do this recently with AIDS drugs, US pharmaceutical companies leaned on Al Gore, who in turn threatened the South African government with a withdrawal of aid, who in turn backed down.
The point I'm making is that it's not the fault of the law in such cases... rather of US hegemony and the power of lobbying groups.
Buckets,
pompomtom
...so just fake it like last time!
Buckets,
pompomtom
I gave up the work from home bit... not enough self discipline (and I'm happy to admit it).
Deadlines and spliffs is no combination!!
Buckets,
pompomtom
I'm not sure where it's originally from, but Snog (Melbourne industrial dance outfit) use the sample.... cool track too.
Buckets,
pompomtom